quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: That's what's scary, it's different people thinking they're original.
Your point about emotional immaturity is correct, if said men knew themselves and their limitations, capabilities, what they want, emotional maturity level, etc, then we wouldn't see what CAT is talking about happen so often.
Yes that's the case with most men here
ok VB & Dude ..... please give us signs of emotional insecurity/ immaturity in a man & how to spot them right away or in the beginning Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote: Originally posted by Tream Lefty: Do *not* listen to his words on these matters (unless you hear something you disagree with, then it might be wise to leave). *Watch* his actions...which of course takes time. Keep your heart safe for a little longer than you are used to. It weeds out the bad ones (or ones who are not right for you) and lets you discover the good ones.
I agree with Ayisha, it's a brilliant post
Tream is wise as always Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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CAT, the poster that said 'watch for actions not words' was right; I'd take that a step further and mention that if his actions & his words do not jibe, red flag.
Please note that if you are over-zealous in any relationship that could lead to your downfall as well, because it will cause you to ignore those tiny little warning bells in your head, and instead just go 'yay! I have a man', which is not good.
quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: CAT, the poster that said 'watch for actions not words' was right; I'd take that a step further and mention that if his actions & his words do not jibe, red flag.
Please note that if you are over-zealous in any relationship that could lead to your downfall as well, because it will cause you to ignore those tiny little warning bells in your head, and instead just go 'yay! I have a man', which is not good.
I'll expound on this & other points later.
yes please do that when you come back, i'd like you elaborate more on that final post Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by *The Dark Angel* aka CAT: ok VB & Dude ..... please give us signs of emotional insecurity/ immaturity in a man & how to spot them right away or in the beginning
One of the most telling signs is extreme jealousy or possessiveness..
If he won't let you leave the house alone, or even feels uncomfortable when you wear sexy clothing on a night out to a club, then he's insecure.
He wants to keep you away from other men who are his competitors, and he's secretly afraid you'll leave him for someone else.
None of this would bother a truly confident man, because he's secure in the knowledge that he has something the other men don't have
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Because I'm a man, when I lock my keys in the car, I will fiddle with a coat hanger long after hypothermia has set in. Calling AAA is not an option. I will win, even if it may mean destroying the door or window in the process. _________________________________________ Because I'm a man, when the car isn't running very well, I will pop the hood and stare at the engine as if I know what I'm looking at. If another man shows up, one of us will say to the other, "I used to be able to fix these things, but now with all these computers and everything, I wouldn't even know where to start. We will then drink a couple of beverages and curse at the machine as a form of holy communion. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, when I catch a cold, I need someone to bring me soup and take care of me while I lie in bed and moan. You're a woman. You never get as sick as I do, so for you, this should be no problem. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, I can be relied upon to purchase basic groceries at the store, like milk or bread. I cannot be expected to find exotic items like "paprika" or "tofu." For all I know, these are the same thing. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, when one of our appliances stops working, I will insist on taking it apart, despite evidence that this will just cost me twice as much once the repair person gets here and has to put it back together. ___________________________________________________ Because I'm a man, I must hold the television remote control in my hand while I watch TV. If the thing has been misplaced, I may miss a whole show looking for it.....though one time I was able to survive by holding a calculator..... (applies to engineers mainly). _______________________________________________________ Because I'm a man, there is no need to ask me what I'm thinking about. The true answer is always either sex, cars, sex, sports or sex, or sex. I have to make up something else when you ask, so don't ask. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, I do not want to visit your mother, or have your mother come visit us, or talk to her when she calls, or think about her any more than I have to. Whatever you got her for Mother's Day is okay; I don't need to see it. And don't forget to pick up something for my mother, too. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, you don't have to ask me if I liked the movie. Chances are, if you're crying at the end of it, I didn't....and if you are feeling amorous afterwards.....then I will certainly at least remember the name and recommend it to others. _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, I think what you're wearing is fine. I thought what you were wearing five minutes ago was fine, too. Either pair of shoes is fine. With the belt or without it, looks fine. Your hair is fine. You look fine. Can we just go now? _______________________________________________ Because I'm a man, and this is, after all, the year 2006, I will share equally in the housework. You just do the laundry, the cooking, the cleaning, the vacuuming, and the dishes, and I'll do the rest.............. like wandering around in the garden with a beer, wondering what to do.
just do that and we will fine : that is us : Posts: 233 | From: Cairo | Registered: Dec 2006
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The Ten Commandments of Man, given to woman, truu da inspiration of I, Prince Buster.
1. Thou shall have no other man but me
2. thou shall not encourage any man to make love to you, neither kiss nor caress you, for I am your man, a very jealous man and is ready to lay low any other man that may intrude in our love.
3. Remember to kiss and caress me, honour and obey me in my every woman fancy, 7 days a week and twice on Sundays coz at no time will i ever be tired of I. T. IT
4. Honour my name so that every other woman may honour it also.
5. thou shall not provoke me to anger or my wrath will descend upon you heavily
6. thou shall not search my pockets at night or annoy me with your heresayings.
7. Thou shall not shout my name in the streets if I am walking with another woman, but wait intelligently until I come home and we both can have it out peacibly, for I am your man, a funny man, and detest a scandal in public places
8. Thou shall not drink nor smoke, or use profane language, for those bad habits i will not stand for
9. Thou shall not commit adultery for the world will not hold me guilty if I commit murder
10. Thou shall not covet thy neighbours dress, nor her shoes, nor her bed, nor her hat, nor anything thats hers, neither shall thou call my attention to anything that maybe for sale in any stores for I will not give thee anything but which you actually need for your purpose.
Those are the ten Commandments of man given to woman by me, Prince buster
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The only way to deal with men is to kick'em in the gonads.
if he says "thank-you", he's a real man. Only real men know they have it coming to them.
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quote:Originally posted by Princess_Leia: Someone on this board told me once that Egyptian men are like stamps. "Spit on them and they stick".
Which unfortunately is the opposite effect in western relationships and its so difficult to change your habits.
I am trying so hard to be nice.
i know you wanna be nice , and that is the best you can do until now , and you change your nature which you born with. in despite of we say in egypt ( dale el-kalb ma bet3adelshy walo 7ateet 3aleeh meeeeeet kaleb), but i'm sure you will sucess to be nice Posts: 367 | From: cairo , egypt | Registered: Aug 2001
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quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: CAT, the poster that said 'watch for actions not words' was right; I'd take that a step further and mention that if his actions & his words do not jibe, red flag.
Please note that if you are over-zealous in any relationship that could lead to your downfall as well, because it will cause you to ignore those tiny little warning bells in your head, and instead just go 'yay! I have a man', which is not good.
I'll expound on this & other points later.
Wise words. Judging people by their actions, not their words, is always a good call. Of course, on the internet, we only have words (and pictures). This makes it much harder to judge character and sincerity. Maybe that's why so many get burned? Posts: 2953 | From: Slightly south of Azkaban. | Registered: Aug 2006
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How to make sure that you do not run into an insecure man again?
Insecure men tend to ask too many questions, monitor you more than the expected concern for a loved one, and often dwell more on the past than their relationship with you. An insecure man will not respect your choice and will try to convey that his choice is better than yours.
A man with insecurities looks at everything with suspicion, trusts no one, and is often imagining conspiracies where there are none.
If you see any of the above in a man's personality, run from him as fast as you can.
A confident man knows that you like him for who he is and he likes you for who you are and the past is not an issue. He will give you your space but will provide you with a blanket of security when you need it.
So what can you do to get even better?
Just take it easy. You can never really force anyone (unless you resort to abuse) to love you or to do things that only you want - once that person realizes that it is not making them happy, that person will move on. So you have to try to be a better person and that is what will keep a woman hooked on to you.
Love your partner without doubts. You have to love your girlfriend the most you can and forget about what she might do - if you think you can stop a woman from cheating on you, you are naive. Even if you did not travel this much, but if a woman wants to commit adultery, she will and you will rarely or never find out.
However, if you are a good man to your woman, if you love her with all your heart and respect her, I see no reason for her to do anything stupid.
Having said that, if this woman is not trustworthy because of her record, it is better to dump her unless she has reformed and has promised not to do anything like that again. You must, at this point, take her word and build a beautiful relationship.
However, if you cannot trust her, it will be better to end the relationship with this woman. But what I have said above must apply to any woman you date in the future.
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quote:Originally posted by SayWhatYouSee: Wise words. Judging people by their actions, not their words, is always a good call. Of course, on the internet, we only have words (and pictures). This makes it much harder to judge character and sincerity. Maybe that's why so many get burned?
IMHO, People get burned because they let their guard down, god knows I've done it before, ignored my instincts that told me to run for the hills, only to stay and do a backflip into the abyss.
CAT's argument is that women play games because men play games; that's a never ending loop which won't be broken any time soon unless one party decides to take the high road & figure out what they really want, as opposed to what society or their families expect of them.
Also, the over-zealous factor (again I've been guilty of this a few times) plays a part here, sometimes we're blindsided by what we want, and become slaves to our passions, as opposed to using sound logic in making a decision regarding relationships.
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Yeah, Vanilla...I agree with the over-zealous comment. You should only do this when you are absolutely sure of how someone feels about you. How a person treats you (their actions) is the best way to evaluate intentions, not words. Anything else exposes you to risk - or worse - the prospect of looking a bit mad. Posts: 2953 | From: Slightly south of Azkaban. | Registered: Aug 2006
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quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: CAT, the poster that said 'watch for actions not words' was right; I'd take that a step further and mention that if his actions & his words do not jibe, red flag.
Please note that if you are over-zealous in any relationship that could lead to your downfall as well, because it will cause you to ignore those tiny little warning bells in your head, and instead just go 'yay! I have a man', which is not good.
I'll expound on this & other points later.
Wise words. Judging people by their actions, not their words, is always a good call. Of course, on the internet, we only have words (and pictures). This makes it much harder to judge character and sincerity. Maybe that's why so many get burned?
I agree with you VB & SWYS...... women tend to make the mistake of believeing the words of their men or atleast wanting to believe them..... forgetting the importance of actions & promises.
We like to hear nice words, we want to believe them, we want to feel special, even if we are doubtful we go against our better judgements, then we get disappointed.......... when words dont match actions, we get confused, we make excuses, we forgive, we go on & we get disappointed again........ we continue because we want to fix the relationship, then too late we start to realize that something isnt right, we become conflicted, then we realize that we've been lied to & taken for a ride..... the cycle never ends until it becomes clear to us & we decide that we should love ourseleves more, we've had enough bullsh!t & move on.......
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quote:Originally posted by Am I bovvered(WOTEVER): [QB] How to make sure that you do not run into an insecure man again?
Insecure men tend to ask too many questions, monitor you more than the expected concern for a loved one, and often dwell more on the past than their relationship with you. An insecure man will not respect your choice and will try to convey that his choice is better than yours.
A man with insecurities looks at everything with suspicion, trusts no one, and is often imagining conspiracies where there are none.
If you see any of the above in a man's personality, run from him as fast as you can.
But arent many of the insecure men nowadays have become more sophisticated at masking their true colours?
You cant tell in the beginning with that kind of sophisticated insecure man...... & I think he will have convincing rationalizations for everything he does that his words confuse you or that you may even never doubt him.
People cant pretend all the time or long enough, someday you will see through the mask, perhaps when it has become too late that you're hooked, confused, brain-washed, comfortable & unable to save yourself Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by VanillaBullshit: [IMHO, People get burned because they let their guard down, god knows I've done it before, ignored my instincts that told me to run for the hills, only to stay and do a backflip into the abyss.
CAT's argument is that women play games because men play games; that's a never ending loop which won't be broken any time soon unless one party decides to take the high road & figure out what they really want, as opposed to what society or their families expect of them.
Also, the over-zealous factor (again I've been guilty of this a few times) plays a part here, sometimes we're blindsided by what we want, and become slaves to our passions, as opposed to using sound logic in making a decision regarding relationships. [/QB]
You never know who's playing the game....... also the problem is, people are used to playing games with the opposite sex, unfortunately to the point that if you dont you are open to risk.
I know i sound like i am contradicting myself but I am trying to look at the benefit of playing games instead of the diadvantages....... in a society where everybody plays games, you will have to do it too to protect yourself & you will learn it from your envirnoment..... you will feel exposed & vulnerable if you dont..... even if it is not in your nature to do it, at some point you will find your self doing it after getting hurt over & over for being the kind open person you are if you were so unlucky to end up with a biatch....... I hope that people are able to preserve their purity & true beauty but as a reaction to sour relationship, they will turn intogame players too
I dont know...... maybe I am wrong Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by *The Dark Angel* aka CAT: But arent many of the insecure men nowadays have become more sophisticated at masking their true colours?
You cant tell in the beginning with that kind of sophisticated insecure man...... & I think he will have convincing rationalizations for everything he does that his words confuse you or that you may even never doubt him.
People cant pretend all the time or long enough, someday you will see through the mask, perhaps when it has become too late that you're hooked, confused, brain-washed, comfortable & unable to save yourself
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
"People who have the clearest convictions in life act diametrically against them, repeat the same mistakes; yet their only excuse is to err is human".
That's a quote from Carlos Castaneda BTW, not me, while it's something I agree with in principal, I admit I have yet to fully integrate the concept into my personal life.
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quote:Originally posted by *The Dark Angel* aka CAT: But arent many of the insecure men nowadays have become more sophisticated at masking their true colours?
You cant tell in the beginning with that kind of sophisticated insecure man...... & I think he will have convincing rationalizations for everything he does that his words confuse you or that you may even never doubt him.
People cant pretend all the time or long enough, someday you will see through the mask, perhaps when it has become too late that you're hooked, confused, brain-washed, comfortable & unable to save yourself
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
"People who have the clearest convictions in life act diametrically against them, repeat the same mistakes; yet their only excuse is to err is human".
That's a quote from Carlos Castaneda BTW, not me, while it's something I agree with in principal, I admit I have yet to fully integrate the concept into my personal life.
well applying concepts to your life is no simple task....... Yes we are human that's why we make mistakes & repeat them
Learning from your mistakes is not easy
Meybe it isnt becuase you dont accpet yourself the way you are & want to change it........ try not to beat yourslef up for being open, kind & trusting...... God knows how many times i've beaten myself up for being me....... they dont necessairly have to be flaws but they are part of you & if they are your flaws they are still you..... that's why it is not in my nature for instance to play games or if i try i fail Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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We will be serving crotch pies, dick lemon salad, tits-breast meat & ass sugar cake
But since this is the Internet & does not have to follow conventional laws..... i think i can have more than one E-husband Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: the buffet put me off now
but that's not all we can serve....... we also got Angel cakes, Innocent pies, sweet mannered salads, behaved chicken wings, kind-hearted cous cous, and chaste pigeons, all cooked with virgin olive oil
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quote:Originally posted by Mr. Bombastic: I'm man enough for 100 women, let alone 1
Trust me, you'll have all that you can handle with me
But, since I just e-converted to Islam, I want 4 e-wives
~Alistair
But as i said, the internet doesnt follow conventional laws
Dude, you dont know how much i can handle
oh, is this e-flirting? Now Sono will have the chance to accuse me of picking up men/ husbands from the internet No she'll say that I am having e-sex right now with 3 men Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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sometimes when women are close, they all get it at in the same time...... so it wont be a good week for you Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by *The Dark Angel* aka CAT:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Bombastic: I'm man enough for 100 women, let alone 1
Trust me, you'll have all that you can handle with me
But, since I just e-converted to Islam, I want 4 e-wives
~Alistair
But as i said, the internet doesnt follow conventional laws
Dude, you dont know how much i can handle
oh, is this e-flirting? Now Sono will have the chance to accuse me of picking up men/ husbands from the internet No she'll say that I am having e-sex right now with 3 men
Naw I'll wait for your weird rendition with Chimps to start and then put in a few I was too nausated to finish reading the last interlude between you two.
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quote:Originally posted by Princess_Leia: Naw I'll wait for your weird rendition with Chimps to start and then put in a few I was too nausated to finish reading the last interlude between you two. [/QB]
keep gong Sono in that same direction & you'll be the one to destroy yourself very soon
Seriuosly, I dont know wether I shall have empathy for you or hate you..... you are impossible
You dont even know how to differentiate between a joke & an insult....... somehow the thin line between what's real & what's an illusion is non existant with you Posts: 3128 | From: Not Your Heaven | Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:Originally posted by *The Dark Angel* aka CAT:
quote:Originally posted by Ayisha: the buffet put me off now
but that's not all we can serve....... we also got Angel cakes, Innocent pies, sweet mannered salads, behaved chicken wings, kind-hearted cous cous, and chaste pigeons, all cooked with virgin olive oil
that sounds much better!! ok im on my way, save me a chaste pigeon Posts: 15090 | From: http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/ | Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:Originally posted by 3okba: I wish you would be my wife, your mind is big enoughe to understand men ! but its fate
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Sorry man, but unless you want to fight to the death, Dark Angel is already taken.
She's my e-wife
~Alistair
Aawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...goshhhh,they are actually fighting over my friend You both can be sure she's a great gal worth an even greater guy,so go for her!!! Posts: 1339 | From: Om Leito | Registered: Aug 2006
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if any one wants chimps Off the fOrum then feel free to say it obvoiusley we have a fucking bitch hacking our private pms but hey SONO if thats what you want then feel free to bad mouth me here and if every other ES USER WANTS TO JPIN YOU THEN GO AHEAD HAKKKKKKKKKKKKER BUT GUESS WHAT IM ONE UP ON YOU ......LETS LEAVE THE BED FOR A WHILE AND THEN I WIL POUNCE ..
BUT GUESS WHAT ITS A FUNNY PICTURE THAT UR AT LEAST 5USERNAMES HERE AND MAY BE I PMED YOU KNOWING IT WAS U ....
SO WHO WANTS CHIMPS GONE .....CUS SONO WANTS ME OFF ..
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