if there is violence in a relationship and the wife asks the husband to leave the home and the husband takes the rent money, leaves and the wife is left with £3000 debt... where does she stand islamically?
Does she forefit any rights even though she asked the husband to leave due to these circumstances, and even though she still loves the husband and would take him back ONLY on the condition that he get help for his anger? even though he doesnt think he has a problem?
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I don't think the Islamic rules will bring her money to pay the rent, or, do you expect her husband would come bring in money because of his religion? His religion is also telling him that he must not use voilence, nevertheless he does! Is this England or Egypt, English wife or Egyptian wife?
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If he doesn't think there is a problem why are you concerned with the rules in Islam. Islam does not condone domestic violence so he is not respecting his own religion.
If he can't respect his own religion this husband needs to learn very fast that he DOES have to respect and abided by the laws of the county he is living in. I assume we are talking about the UK here? UK law does not tolerate domestic violence and a report to the police is whats really needed. Perhaps then he will think about returning the rent money he has stolen. Islam is very serious on crimes such as stealing. Isn't that a Hadd crime?
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Allah says (translated)(Please read the ayat slowly and carefully):
"If you fear a breach between them twain (the man and his wife),appoint (two) arbitrators one from his family and the other from hers. If they both wish peace, Allah will cause their reconciliation. Indeed Allah is Ever All knower, Well-Acquainted with all things." Suratul An Nisa verse 35
The two should follow the advice from Allah Azza wa Jal and seek help and prayer in this regards. The "Knowledgeable" Imam and preferably a well known and respected Alim (Scholar) should be involved in this abritration process. He will be able to provide advice from an Islamic prospective as well as a worldly prospective because he has dealth with similar cases in the community wa Allahu Alim.
Allah says: "If you do not know then ask the people of knowledge (scholars)." If you are in UK PM me and I can direct you to several Masjids that may be of help for you insha Allah ta'ala.
I advise you to stay netural, because ALWAYS, ALWAYS there are two sides to a story and before one can make any type of judgement it is only fair that both sides have the opportunity to be heard.
And with Allah lies the success.
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And with Allah may your man be justified in beating you if you do not obey him, if you do not make yourself available to him, if you do not cover yourself, if you should look any man in the eye other thn your husband, if you should go out unaccompanied, and the list goes on and on and on.....
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: And with Allah may your man be justified in beating you if you do not obey him, if you do not make yourself available to him, if you do not cover yourself, if you should look any man in the eye other thn your husband, if you should go out unaccompanied, and the list goes on and on and on.....
That type of response goes a long way it helping the poster with a sincere problem. The object of the game is to provide advice that will be beneficial in helping the poster deal with a very credible issue.
I can see where your input does that and is helpful.
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I hope this is not you wanderer you are speaking of. If you need help let someone know, there is always help to be had.
To answer your question, he doesn't have the right to beat you. If he is quoting something in Islam that gives him the right then he is twisting the Islam to fit what he wants to do. He knows that and you do, too (or whomever was beaten). There is right to divorce and I would never put up with this until and unless there was some intense psychotherapy acquired by the husband. There is no excuse for that, I don't care what he's stressed or angry about. Don't even get me into the love topic. Posts: 13440 | Registered: Feb 2006
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: And with Allah may your man be justified in beating you if you do not obey him, if you do not make yourself available to him, if you do not cover yourself, if you should look any man in the eye other thn your husband, if you should go out unaccompanied, and the list goes on and on and on.....
where does it say you can beat a woman for looking a man in the eye, or for going out unaccompanied?
please stop applying the extreme case of Saudi Arabia to the entire muslim world.
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Why it's what your husband is doing to you.
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quote:Originally posted by habeeby: And with Allah may your man be justified in beating you if you do not obey him, if you do not make yourself available to him, if you do not cover yourself, if you should look any man in the eye other thn your husband, if you should go out unaccompanied, and the list goes on and on and on.....
where does it say you can beat a woman for looking a man in the eye, or for going out unaccompanied?
please stop applying the extreme case of Saudi Arabia to the entire muslim world.
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