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I'm just curious to hear anyones opinions, thoughts, stories they have on whether relationships with Christan men in Egypt differ much than those with Muslim men.
Are women on a higher standing with Christian men or are they treated the same as a muslim woman?
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Are you insinuating that muslim women are not treated well by muslim men? I'm not understanding what you're saying here.
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I'd have to say considering the culture that it's about even. I've actually known some Christian Mid Easterners who were more "strict" with their females. I suppose it depends on the man and his upbringing.
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I think that you are assuming Muslim men are more controlling of their women than Christian men? To my knowledge this is not true...I don't think whether the man is Christian or Muslim would make a difference, i think you are getting culture and habits confused with religion... A loving and understanding man is this way irrelevant of what religion he is...
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quote:Originally posted by aussieincairo45: I'm just curious to hear anyones opinions, thoughts, stories they have on whether relationships with Christan men in Egypt differ much than those with Muslim men.
Are women on a higher standing with Christian men or are they treated the same as a muslim woman?
quote:Originally posted by aussieincairo45: I'm just curious to hear anyones opinions, thoughts, stories they have on whether relationships with Christan men in Egypt differ much than those with Muslim men.
Are women on a higher standing with Christian men or are they treated the same as a muslim woman?
I had a relationship with an Egyptian Christian years ago. He is now affectionately called The Bast**d. He was a liar, a cheat and only wanted money and a Visa and never wanted to return to Egypt. As far as I know he is now sha*ing his way round Europe conning other women. Now I am married to a wonderful Muslim Egyptian, so YES I have found different treatment from Christians as I found from Muslims. But of course thats only one. Posts: 15090 | From: http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/ | Registered: Jul 2004
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I also had a relationship with a Coptic Egyptian. I happen to call him the A**hole. Heh how ironic huh? Anyway, he was a liar, user, cheater, and druggie, who was trying to sweet talk someone (in my case it was me!) into marrying his brother to bring him to the states. Last I heard from him he was sleeping/housing with a woman 25 yrs older than him, while telling me he was using her for money. Go figure. Now, I am very happily married to a Muslim Egyptian. I can honestly say though it has nothing to do with religion. Keep that in mind please. Men are men. I just happened to fall for the wrong person at the time.
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-------------------- If you don't learn from your mistakes, there's no sense making them. Posts: 15090 | From: http://www.egyptalk.com/forum/ | Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:Originally posted by aussieincairo45: I'm just curious to hear anyones opinions, thoughts, stories they have on whether relationships with Christan men in Egypt differ much than those with Muslim men.
Are women on a higher standing with Christian men or are they treated the same as a muslim woman?
That last question is actually highly offensive to muslim women. I am Muslim and I am treated very well. I am treated as an equal not as someone beneath my husbands value or anyones value. However here is the answer to your main question. I have been involved with both Egyptian Coptic man and Egyptian Muslim man. In my experience, my relation with the Muslim is far better than the Coptic. The Coptic lied to me constantly, cheated on me several times though he would never admit it, had a hashish addiction, drank so much.I was expected to cook all meals upon demand, and was never helped with the cleaning. There were good times, he could be the most affectionate person, however, my feelings were always put behind his, and his wants ALWAYS came first. While Muslim men are not perfect as well, I have found much more respect for my wants and needs and the overall desire of him to make me happy is far better as well as the commitment to the relationship, and no cheating. The cooking i mainly do but he is more than happy to cook as well. Cleaning, the offer to have someone come and clean the home for me is always there if i wish instead of me cleaning.
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quote:Originally posted by CheezyPoof: I'd have to say considering the culture that it's about even. I've actually known some Christian Mid Easterners who were more "strict" with their females. I suppose it depends on the man and his upbringing.
I fully agree on that.
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I had a few christian egyptians BF's and they rock! They don't hide you away from their friends, they will kiss you in public and share an italian hoagie with you loooool! they will take you everywhere they go with their friends and stuff...basically hanging with one lets you see what your muslim egyptian man is doing while you are at home. they are very easy to get along with but can be a bit snobby i think.
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I have been married to a Coptic Egyptian for almost 28 years. Wouldn't trade him for anything. But don't judge the man on his religion, judge him on the way he treats you. Some of the most relgious people can treat people the worst.
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quote:Originally posted by aussieincairo45: I'm just curious to hear anyones opinions, thoughts, stories they have on whether relationships with Christan men in Egypt differ much than those with Muslim men.
Are women on a higher standing with Christian men or are they treated the same as a muslim woman?
I dont know, if the bloody Daily Telegraph says that Muslims are bad then they MUST be bad.
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what i have done recently is gotten out of the gyptian box all together...muslim or christian they are all wackjobs and since i dont date american men (ew) and am mostly around arabs anyway, i decided to give the lebs and palis a swing and omg they are so much damn better...i will never go egyptian again...they are ltos of fun but play too much.
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My husband is a coptic and he is very affectionate, always helps me, in the house and we work together as a team mostly, We have our differences , mainly on clothes ect, and covering up a little, things i have to do, here in egypt, but mostly all is ok. It can never be perfect, lifes not like that, I dont think religion comes into it, only the type of person you are with, luckyliy, mine loves huggies, and i dont have a problem most of the time with him. Yes they can be strict, but i think its there upbringing, I had so much freedom in life, it is hard to give that up, Another thing we argue over, but its just teething problems.
quote:Originally posted by PeaceAtLast: what i have done recently is gotten out of the gyptian box all together...muslim or christian they are all wackjobs and since i dont date american men (ew) and am mostly around arabs anyway, i decided to give the lebs and palis a swing and omg they are so much damn better...i will never go egyptian again...they are ltos of fun but play too much.
Instead of worrying if your partner is American, Egyptian, or Lebanese, why don't you worry about compatibility, love, and weather you are comfortable with that person or not regardless of their passport. Reading your post made me feel like you are picking from a menu or something.
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christian as a habit ? i take eception to that statement.
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quote:Originally posted by PeaceAtLast: what i have done recently is gotten out of the gyptian box all together...muslim or christian they are all wackjobs and since i dont date american men (ew) and am mostly around arabs anyway, i decided to give the lebs and palis a swing and omg they are so much damn better...i will never go egyptian again...they are ltos of fun but play too much.
Instead of worrying if your partner is American, Egyptian, or Lebanese, why don't you worry about compatibility, love, and weather you are comfortable with that person or not regardless of their passport. Reading your post made me feel like you are picking from a menu or something.
NOT only that but her daughter is Egyptian. I find it really strange that she would say things like this when her daughter is Egyptian and will one day grow to see how her mother feels about her 'other half'. I would be livid if my husband ever said something bad about Americans in front of our daughter. Children have a wonderful way of taking everything you say and making it be ABOUT THEM. She will take your dislike (and your husbands opinions about Egyptian men being the lowest in the Arab world) of Egyptians to mean that HALF OF HER IS BAD. Don't do this to her. Start singing the praises of Egyptians when she is around, find the good things, focus on those things and stop (as 7ayat said) focusing on the man's nationality. And please don't say you don't talk this way in front of her or say these things in front of her. Children ALWAYS know....
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Of course I haven't been married to a muslim so i have no comparison.
But I don't think it is the religion that shapes their masculine mentality the most. It is the CULTURE
And everybody here has to admit that Egyptian culture is built around the male ego and to feed it all the time.
Besides, the Coptic Christianity is so totally different from the European Christianity. The worldview is more in sync with the muslim one. I have always regarded my husband half muslim because after all he is brought up in a muslim country and both religions, islam and Christianity, have been meshed with the ancient and local culture of Egypt. That culture has been influenced from so many directions. And it has developed into this macho mentality.
ergo> egyptian men, no matter what religion, are all self-centered and inflated BOYS.
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i don't think the religion has anything to do with ur question; sucess of marriage comes from the person and the level of their responsibility sense... desire to compromise and other bla bla bla. religion is not the axe the marriage is leaning on
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quote:Originally posted by Yana: i don't think the religion has anything to do with ur question; sucess of marriage comes from the person and the level of their responsibility sense... desire to compromise and other bla bla bla. religion is not the axe the marriage is leaning on
agreed with yana, from personal experience Posts: 9443 | From: USA...... | Registered: Jun 2006
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quote:Originally posted by PeaceAtLast: I had a few christian egyptians BF's and they rock! They don't hide you away from their friends, they will kiss you in public and share an italian hoagie with you loooool! they will take you everywhere they go with their friends and stuff...basically hanging with one lets you see what your muslim egyptian man is doing while you are at home. they are very easy to get along with but can be a bit snobby i think.
I am a Muslim egyptian guy, hangout with me and you will find that muslim guys do the same as your christian bf's (how many were they?) and maybe better Posts: 504 | Registered: Mar 2008
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Heh how ironic huh? Anyway, he was a liar, user, cheater, and druggie, who was trying to sweet talk someone (in my case it was me!) into marrying his brother to bring him to the states. Last I heard from him he was sleeping/housing with a woman 25 yrs older than him, while telling me he was using her for money. Go figure. Now, I am very happily married to a Muslim Egyptian. I can honestly say though it has nothing to do with religion. Keep that in mind please. Men are men. I just happened to fall for the wrong person at the time.
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i take eception to that statement.
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And please don't say you don't talk this way in front of her or say these things in front of her.
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