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Hi, Im in need of a reasonable flat or room in the Maadi/Old Cairo area. One Bedroom with kitchen, living area, bathroom, washer/dryer, good Air Conditioning, DSL, TV, Satellite and phone for local calls. Furnished. I will need it from mid August 2007 to mid September 2007. Pictures are required. Prefer to have full access and the ability to entertain with no problems. Please send asking rent price, details of what is included as a private message here on ES to start the negotiations. Thank you.
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May I suggest that, if your man is truly as responsible and religious as you say he is, he should be finding the accommodation for you if you are coming all this way to visit him. And, if he is a true Egyptian gentleman, he would feel offended at you taking over this responsibility as if you didn't trust him to get the best place he could for you.
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He IS looking. I didn't ask for help on a new thread for more harrassment...thank you. And how we conduct our personal business is between us. I listed this to HELP find accomodations for him to investigate. But Im not going to sit here and defend an innocent post.
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I am not asking you to defend anything. But earlier you did ask about the Egyptian culture and what it was people thought that you didn't get. So, when you posted this thread it gave me the opportunity to let you know about something that you may not already know about.
Most decent Egyptian men like to feel like men, i.e. that they can look after their women. So unless he specifically asked you to help him find somewhere for you to stay, he is likely to feel insulted, and if not, then I would suggest that you should be preparing to hold his hand for the duration and do an awful lot of running around after/for him.
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Totally agree Newcomer I said exact same thing to another lady looking for property in Alex. We spout about the culture but it falls on deaf ears.
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People,people,pls either help the lady find accomodation or let her be,it is called common decency,if she can take care of her self,then we should all wish her the best of luck,dont you think?
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What is wrong with you people???? This person is making a legitimate request. If you can not help her then be quiet!!! OOPS I forgot you are the only ones that can post. The rest of us are old fat wrinkled and sleep all the time and terribly demented.
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You are not understanding are you, anyone can post it's an open forum, Gosh and I though Americans were the champions of freedom of speech!
Where did anyone make such an insult that you want to apply to yourself??
This post is a good example of a valid cultural point, Mr Ashraf is a true EG gentleman here, take note of his post it says it all.
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This was a classified ad for a flat. Of course you can post anything. You seem to be hunting for snipe. My question is what are you doing posting this for a classified when there is another thread open that deals with what you say. This person is looking for a FLAT not advice. Are you looking for a flat or for persons that post to castigate them for not collapsing in heap of tears over your dreary comments or proclaiming you to be brilliant poster that saved their life?
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Freedom of speech Penny also means responsibility for what you say. Us americans are champions of many things. Who said I was american?
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quote:Originally posted by shahrzaad: This was a classified ad for a flat. Of course you can post anything. You seem to be hunting for snipe. My question is what are you doing posting this for a classified when there is another thread open that deals with what you say.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander; there was a discussion about people making comments in this thread yesterday in the other thread that you are referring to, yet you chose to make a comment in this thread today. Looks like snipe hunting season is wide open Posts: 4576 | From: Cairo | Registered: Jun 2002
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Woo hoo a real snipe hunter. Good thing they are in season. I have posted in both. I came here to see what was happening and found a bizarre situation. I too will be assisting in the search for a flat. Would you like my credentials?
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quote:Originally posted by MrAshraf: Also agree. Why would you even have to bother yourself about looking for a place, that is the man's job. Also his responsibility to PAY for it.
Heard many bad stories of the poor women arriving to stay in a flat for $50-$100USD per day and living in a total dump.
Girls, girls, girls, what are you thinking ?
So what is a good price? Husband got a two bedroom flat, nicely finished, for about $30 a night in Heliopolis. Sat TV, AC, and washing machine. Is that good or bad?
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quote:Originally posted by shahrzaad: Woo hoo a real snipe hunter. Good thing they are in season. I have posted in both. I came here to see what was happening and found a bizarre situation. I too will be assisting in the search for a flat. Would you like my credentials?
Do you know Shahrazaad there actually is a reason why I would advise you NOT to look for a flat ( culture issues aside) ...because the minute they know its a foriegner wanting it, the price will go up. Your man can go and find one himself for one hell of a lot less than you can. So forget the culture and ask him to do it for you. It's also mainly agents that will pick up your postings from here and you will end up paying them unecessary commission.
I don't mind helping people find flats but it gets a bit embarassing when so often the young man doesn't have the money to pay the deposit and then it's impossible to hold the flat for him. It's also embarassing for him when a woman organises it, but that's up to you.
Snoozing that was a good price your husband paid if it was a short term rent.
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Again Penny, you do not know what I am doing or saying. I don't want to upset you. But because I am looking for a flat does not mean I am the one that will be using it. Besides I already have a flat of my own. I also have an attorney and family in Egypt. Please do not jump to conclusion.
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Snoozing that was a good price your husband paid if it was a short term rent.
Thanks. It was for about 2 or 3 weeks each time. Husband's father actually negotiated it both times. Just curious...
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Oh dear Shahrzaad something is not so good with you today. I did not assume anything in your words other than 'I will be asisting in looking for a flat'. I will say no more to you and keep out you way. I have said nothing on any thread to insult you but obviously things are not good with you just now.
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well...i think we should try to help her about the flat..coz she just made forum for that reason...so its will be decent from us to help a lady who asking for it...then if any one not saticfied about her position with her guy he can say that and advice her in another forum in a place which is fit for this...
and at last she is free in her life..coz its something privacy between her and her man as i think..,and if something wrong happend to her i think she will be completely responsible about it..she is an adult lady and she is free to take the advice or refuse it...but at last..this forum here made for help..so who can help say something...and who cant dont say anything...
may GOD bless u all..,and sorry for my bad english..., with my best wishes.., hesham
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I have to say hetsho, you remind me of my guy, you seem very gentle and reasonable
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Hesham, Thank you. Your english is fine. If I can understand you then you are doing good. You should see my ARABIC!!! Now THATS a nightmare. LOL. I do know enough to have short conversations with him and his family in Arabic (and before ANYONE says anything..YES he speaks great English!! Hate to see where THAT comment could go!!)
To Others: I just wanted LEADS on flats. Im not stupid.. I know the culture. Why is it I posted for a flat and the assumption is made that I don't understand the culture? Maybe I wanted leads for my guy to follow up on? Who said I was paying and not HIM? Did anyone ASK? I KNOW he can get me a better deal as an Egyptian. DUHHHH...He handles all my negotiating. I only wanted LEADS. Sometimes leads is all that is needed then maybe he has something more to work from.....ALL I asked for was if anyone knows of any flats in the Maadi area that is avail with my specifications.
But as a respectful man caring only for my safety and comfort...my guy has decided I should stay in the comfort of a hotel so Im not alone at night in a FLAT. He prefers a guarded hotel with full security. So, we can forget my original request at this point.
To those that WANT to be helpful.. THANK YOU!!
May God Bless...Salam Alaikum!!
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quote:Originally posted by amrssnowangel: But as a respectful man caring only for my safety and comfort...my guy has decided I should stay in the comfort of a hotel so Im not alone at night in a FLAT. He prefers a guarded hotel with full security. So, we can forget my original request at this point.
I am actually glad to hear this, especially as it confirms what we were trying to tell you about a respectable Egyptian man. It is also a better option for you as a Muslimah than what you were asking for in your initial posting.
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Well...hehehe..theres the assumption. The assumption that I wanted to "entertain"....we haven't even held HANDS....the entertaining was so I could invite his family over for a cooked egytpian meal and to entertain female friends I have in Cairo. But thank you Newcomer for your kind words. I do have a good man with morals and values or I wouldn't be with him. WE just wanted to know the options out there...and asked. But the more he thought about it..the more uncomfortable he was with it...he knows Im used to being on my own...but he is protective and is very polite, patient and understanding. He knows a woman isn't his right till he marries her and treats me with that respect. So for him to want to wait to say much to his parents about our FEELINGS seemed logical. He is protective of MY reputation and as an older woman with a younger man he KNOWS what type of talk from family and neighbors would have been like. So WE opted to wait till a more appropriate time. And that was a decision we made. Had nothing to do with him not wanting to tell or hiding or con'ing me. Had everything to do with respect, love and wanting what was right. Really, he is a good, kind, gentle man. Shy with tons of virture. Example...I sold lingerie on Ebay for a while. Without thinking I asked if he wanted to see my store. He said, I can't. Without thinking I said.."whyyyyy" DUHHHHHHHHHHHH. His answer knocked my socks off..."She won't be covered and is not my wife...so its not my right" THIS is the kind of man Im with. He doesn't BELIEVE a man should have more than one wife ever...he doesn't think divorce is an option, because it is the worst of Halal things to Allah. Next to sin. He really took time to think through the idea of being married to an older woman and the future problems that may develope. His response to my fears of getting old and sickly way before him was..."what if I get cancer at 3o...would u leave me??" Of course I said no way, I'd not leave.....he said..then why would I leave you or want something else in your time of need? THIS is the heart I love. I know Im opening a can here with all these details...but...I KNOW I have a GOOD man with PURE intentions. And Im very happy with him and our relationship. I hope others can offer advice that is brought in a more positive light. I don't mind comments and advice if its given in the right spirit. Such as yours Newcomer...ty
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The safety of a hotel??? You have to be kidding!! I had a pervert call me the first night I was there and no I did not talk yes I hung up but after five times I was in no mood for games. I called my fiance's family and they woke him. After the second time I woke him he called the hotel with specific instructions. No one was to call my room but him and they had to know his entired name. That did not work either. Next night it started again. By the third night I was sleeping with my door blockaded and a knife laying on the pillow beside me (table knife from room service). That is the night the caller said I am coming to your room. I was told I would be escorted to a new room someone would come for me or to come down to the lobby alone. The desk also said to unplug the phone which I did not do.
I was totally running on sleep deprivation when the next day the hotel management showed me pictures and asked if I knew these people. It seems it has happened before. And it seems that there was an attempted rape.
Yes there were armed guards and military posted outside. But the problem was INSIDE the building.
Just be careful.
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Lovely. What hotel was this? I'm thinking about staying at a hotel this time because I'm bringing the baby.
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I had great protection in the Pharoahs Hotel in Dokki. The prices were reasonable...and the hotel handled any loud noises immediately. The security guards knew me well after three years of extended visits. I had people call me at hotel and they screened my calls well...so it may just depend on where u stay.
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quote:Originally posted by shahrzaad: The safety of a hotel??? You have to be kidding!! I had a pervert call me the first night I was there and no I did not talk yes I hung up but after five times I was in no mood for games. I called my fiance's family and they woke him. After the second time I woke him he called the hotel with specific instructions. No one was to call my room but him and they had to know his entired name. That did not work either. Next night it started again. By the third night I was sleeping with my door blockaded and a knife laying on the pillow beside me (table knife from room service). That is the night the caller said I am coming to your room. I was told I would be escorted to a new room someone would come for me or to come down to the lobby alone. The desk also said to unplug the phone which I did not do.
I was totally running on sleep deprivation when the next day the hotel management showed me pictures and asked if I knew these people. It seems it has happened before. And it seems that there was an attempted rape.
Yes there were armed guards and military posted outside. But the problem was INSIDE the building.
Just be careful.
Could you please tell us here the name of that hotel for future references into Not staying there as an unaccompanied women traveler?? Posts: 1339 | From: Om Leito | Registered: Aug 2006
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Actually it was the Hussa hotel in Giza. Wonderful view the hotel was about Super8 quality. I was not "unprotected" I was just treated as if it was my fault. I arrived and settled in and within 4 hours started receiveing stupid phone calls. I feel it was an employee and when they started telling me to come to the lobby (2 a.m.) or they would "send" someone for me or "move" me to another room I was scared out of my mind. How would I know who to trust or who would be waiting for me on elevator etc. Then to unplug the phone.. sure would stop phone calls but I could not get help either.. I knew no one... except fiance and his family. No one knew I was in Egypt at home except those in the extreme need to know situation (caring for children ie.). But I was to identify the person on the phone by a picture!!! I stayed 8 days because two of the days I was recovering from an injury (I fell at the embassy, tripped over wire in road that egyptian guards had thrown down) I had a broken bone in my hand, brusied jaw, injured knee and mild concussion. I was well cared for. The staff was kind and generous. It is just the pervert seemed able to reach my room no mater what. Eventually it was resolved and as I said I was treated very well. My fiance was NOT treated well when he came to get me. He had his papers confiscated and we had to wait indefinitely for someone to give them back. Finally the hotel manager/owner seemed to see I was about to explode and stepped in with help. I would not be afraid to stay there again, but I would not want my children there. I got my feet on the ground and quickly learned what I needed to know. Guards increased at the hotel and the military was present 95% of the time. So, I left the hotel not because I was unsafe, the price was reasonable and food reasonable if you like it, but because I needed to be closer to the central area and it made it easier to spend more time with fiance. Where I was staying was like 4 cities away from where he stayed and it took him 2 hours to get to the hotel. So, I have nothing against a hotel but I can tell you it has never happened to me in the US. It was just a co-incidence I am sure (I hope).
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