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The old language of ancient Egyptian is usually classified by modern linguists as a sub phylum of the Afro-Asiatic language. The language went through various stages of Old,Middle, New and the Final phases which was supposed to be called Coptic. Most linguist have no idea of how ancient Egyptian was vocalized but I believe that the rural people in Upper Egypt could probabaly give some insight to how ancient Egyptian was vocalized.
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i believe the actual language was called mdu ntr, or middle egyptian and the final stage was called Sahidic Coptic
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You are correct. The term for ancient Kemetian language was Mdu Ntr. The last phase of mdu ntr was divided into localized dialects of Coptic which Sahidic being one of them. You also had Akhminic,Faiyumic,Boharic etc. Some bold Egyptian linguist have contended the colloquial Arabic spoken in modern Egypt is the last phase of the mdu ntr language.
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quote:Originally posted by Rasoolpuri: What was old language of Egypt?
According to Egyptologist EW Budge (and the Ancient Egyptians themselves) the prehistoric "parent" language of the Ancient Egyptian language originated in Central Africa, in the region lying to the east of the Great Lakes.
Glossary of Relevant Terms
Nter *Moudu: "Sacred words" - any book or inscription written in hieroglyphics Shai Moudu Nter: "Written words of the god **(Thoth) Moudu Nter "Words of the god **(Thoth) Moudu ro en Kemet "Words of the mouth of Black" - the spoken language Ro en Kemet "the Speech of Black" - the Kemetian language
quote: **Thoth was an ancient Egyptian moon god. He was a patron of civilization and such intellectual arts as writing, astronomy, mathematics, law, magic, and healing. He is most often shown in art with a human body and the head of an ibis bird. He is also portrayed as a dog-headed baboon... In the creation myth from Memphis, Thoth became the tongue of the creator god Ptah, through whom the world was created. --Worldbook Encyclopedia
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was that the lang spoken before arabic took its place. When did arabic fully become the egyptian lang?
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quote:Originally posted by multisphinx: was that the lang spoken before arabic took its place. When did arabic fully become the egyptian lang?
You see it being written in Wally's post above.
The country was called Km.t or the Black Nation. It's native tongue was called mdw ntr or devine speech, and is sometimes called Kemetian.
This entire family of languages from Chadic to Semitic is found in Africa, and includes Hausa (Nigeria); Imazingh (Berber);Ahmharic-Semitic (Ethiopia) as well as Hebrew, and Arabic which are the only two members of this language family found outside of Africa.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: [B] The old language of ancient Egyptian is usually classified by modern linguists as a sub phylum of the Afro-Asiatic language. ( where did you see this cr-P Egyptians were the first of civilised human who written a proper language, Sumari of Iraq was another.)
The language went through various stages of Old,Middle, New and the Final phases which was supposed to be called Coptic. ( this is correct, but as somebody who studied Egyptology for four years, I can read, write and translate four ancient languages- we study them at the university)
Most linguist have no idea of how ancient Egyptian was vocalized ( this is no longer true0 but I believe that the rural people in Upper Egypt could probabaly give some insight to how ancient Egyptian was vocalized. ( also northern Egyptians,but sadly we do not teach our kids our true languages at school, something we, Egyptians have to consider )
quote: where did you see this cr-P Egyptians were the first of civilised human who written a proper language, Sumari of Iraq was another.
The Afro-Asiatic classification comes from a linguist named Joseph Greenberg. He rejects the old terminology called Hamitio-Semetic that older linguists classified it because of the racist implications of the Hamitic myth. All Afro-Asiatic languages including Semetic are generally agreed to come from modern day Ethiopia.
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[quote]The language went through various stages of Old,Middle, New and the Final phases which was supposed to be called Coptic. ( this is correct, but as somebody who studied Egyptology for four years, I can read, write and translate four ancient languages- we study them at the university)
Glad to hear you can. I unfortunately cannot read or write Mdu Ntr. Learning the language of Mdu Ntr is the key to understanding ancient Egyptian culture.
quote: [quote]Most linguist have no idea of how ancient Egyptian was vocalized ( this is no longer true0 but I believe that the rural people in Upper Egypt could probabaly give some insight to how ancient Egyptian was vocalized. ( also northern Egyptians,but sadly we do not teach our kids our true languages at school, something we, Egyptians have to consider )
According to Egyptian scholar Bayoumi Qandil the ancient Egyptian language survives in the colloquial Arabic of the everyday Egyptian. Contrary to Arabists, our culture is not dead,at least the language,so we need to stop thinking it's dead.
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