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dahlak
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as far as i know, the caucasoid did not
exist or were not at ancient egypt or nubian
time. where were they???. Are they come after the other civilization????

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dahlak, the whole caucasian classification comes from a 19th century anthropologist named Bluemback. The whole notion of the Hamitic race comes from a man named Seligman. This concept was applied to a wide variation of people that did not fit the streotypical depiction of the ideals of what exactly was ''black''.

Most of these views have been discredited,but they still linger and need further academic communities to step up and eliminate them.


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Ausar,

You could actually reverse your statement and still explain how these scholars were able to explain how these Caucasoid looking people could possibly be members of the same race as the white europeans?

The actually, did research and discovered that all these Caucasoid looking people who lived in Africa, were actually Caucasians who had adapted to their environment by taking on a dark hue (skin color) and some of them ended up mating with Black Africans due to the natural proximity.

The key is that they were originally members of the Caucasian Race and not Negroid Africans!!

There is no Eurocentric conspiracy to attach themselves to Black Africans in order to steal their civilizations.

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Originally posted by ausar:
dahlak, the whole caucasian classification comes from a 19th century anthropologist named Bluemback. The whole notion of the Hamitic race comes from a man named Seligman. This concept was applied to a wide variation of people that did not fit the streotypical depiction of the ideals of what exactly was ''black''.

Most of these views have been discredited,but they still linger and need further academic communities to step up and eliminate them.


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Nope, the so-called Caucasoid features are indigenous to Africa. Most of these people that are claimed caucasoid have negriod features like prognathism. Caucasians in Europe don't have extreme aveloar porgnathism.


See the following from Molnar:


"....Nose form is function largely of climatic factors,such as temperature and mositure content of the air,rather then a simple result of racial affinities. The nose serves moisten the inspired air,so in the drier regions of thwe world people have noses which pocess the greatest surface area of the moucous membrane,a condition achieved by the longer ,more narrow nose form;so among desert and mountain peoples the narrow nose is predominant.[7] Even in cold and drier climates the Eskimos have a narrow nasal aperature,which provides an effiecent mechanism for warming as well as moistening the inspired air. It is simple matter of fact that a high narrow nasal opening can warm and mositen air more effeciently than a short borad one,and in climates where the moisture content of the air is very low ,selective forces act on this particular nose form ,wheather the dryness is due to intense heat or intense cold[Table 3-8]

Since face form is due to the interaction of the growth processes of several facial bones,and single feature is interacting forces. This is especially true of nose form,whose width is correlated with climate,as noted above ,but also with the size and proportion of the upper dental arch.As the palate gets wider,the nasal aperature becomes broader. The case of the Austrlian Aboriginees is a good example;though they live in a very dry area of the world,their noses are extremely broad ,and this dimension is related to the chewing process exerted on the velop. Also,prongnathism tends to be associated with a short borad nose,and significant correlation is found between the length of the skull base and nasal width.

These factors of climatic influence and structural interrelationship suggest that human face form is extremely complex,numerous varible being invovled in growth and development. Conclusions should not be drawn about relationships between two populations on the basis of a similairty in structure ,because face form[like the small statue in pgymies and Negritos discussed above] develops according to local factors of natural selction. It is not ncessary to postulate migrations and intermixtures to explain similairites between populations,as once was done for the Nilotic face form found in groups like the Nuer,Shilluk,and others in Eastern Africa. At one time their long striaght noses were believed to be due to contact and interbreeding with caucasoid groups form Western Asia. subsequent genetic studies donot borne this theory out . No doubt,over a period of thousand years,contact with Western Asia populations has taken place and some interbreeding has resulted,but people with Nilotic face are the result of local selective forces acting on the population;it is not merely a matter of interbreeding between races......."""""

Page 63-64

Race,Types,and Ethnic Groups
the problem with human variation
Stephen Molnar

No, the dark white theory is diminished. Know prove to me archaeologically these Hamites migrated to Africa.



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quote:
Originally posted by ABAZA:

The actually, did research and discovered that all these Caucasoid looking people who lived in Africa, were actually Caucasians who had adapted to their environment by taking on a dark hue (skin color) and some of them ended up mating with Black Africans due to the natural proximity.

[This message has been edited by ABAZA (edited 17 February 2005).]



This is a lie, please quote the person and give citation for this. Otherwise quit trolling with those lies.


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