When it comes to the Ancient Egyptians it has never been a matter of whether or not the Modern Egyptians and Modern Egypt as a population today is descended from the Ancient it is about their alternate ancestral sources that have influenced the modern apearance which several people on here attempt to deny in an attempt to distort the phsyical appearance of the Ancients.
Again, I'll use myself as an example. I am an African-American and I am a descendant of the Ancient Americans.
That does not mean my physical appearance is representative of the Ancient people who are indegenious to the land in my country 5000 years ago.
There are certain groups of Americans who resemble these people and there are certain groups who do not or do not as much resmble them. That is in no way a hateful statement or an attempt to portray anyone else as less "American" it is just a fact based on our understanding of history.
The same is true of every region of the world. Some populations such as Japan have a predominate population that represents the ancient population of that region thousands of years ago. Some do not such as most of the Western hemisphere and some parts of the "Middle East".
The sooner people learn to respect and understand history the closer we will get to an honest representation of Ancient Egypt.
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i agree with you all the way. Modern Egyptians are descendants of Ancient Egyptians because they live on the same land and represent what Egypt is today. but it doesn't mean that they are of the same stock as the Ancient Egyptians (although i am sure some are).
Walk, next time you post pictures you might want to post them from photobucket. I can right click many of the of the pictures and get the exact title of them. Otherwise, people will cheat and ruin the thread.
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save photos to the folder you mad eand then upload them to your photobucket. You can rename them whatever you like. This thread is a good idea it can eliminate bias. If you are going to make a thread with mystery choices name the pictures a non specific title like "Pic #1" or "Mystery Pic" or something so they have no idea where you got it from.
I was just holding out because I knew atleast one of your pics and didn't want to ruin the thread. You posted the pic of the little girl in the last pic before.
I and 2 are interchangeable between Ethiopian and Somali with the 3rd being Egyptian. WHy the 3rd is Egyptian is the body of water (Nile) with the 2 animals showing the black water providing agriculture. Ethiopia and Somalia are not so blesses with water and livestock.
The buildingd in the background are of an urban area and both Ethiopia and Somalia is highly underdeveloped!
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you are right about the third being Egypt. do you think the last picture of the little girl is Egyptian, Ethiopian, or Somali?
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I have noticed one thing....these people are all poor. Anyone over there have any money?
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multi...relax and have a drink, you are getting out of control. Fact is, 99% of the pictures you guys post here are poor people, just asked why that is?
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For all practical purpose, the girl is egyptian. Her ethnic identity is a little tricky. She does not have the phenotypical East African facial structure (like Iman) so she may be from the delta or somewhat North. It may be cool according to what she is wearing, and appears well fed.
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yes you're right, she's from the Siwa Oasis in Western Egypt.
Ayazid, those kids are not Nubian. and even if they were, Nubians have been in Egypt forever and deserve the title "Egyptian" just as everyone else does.
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do you think those kids were Nubian? the bottom pic, i mean. they were from Aswan but they weren't Nubian.
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To those opposed to the indegnious roots of Black people in Egypt 'unmistakeably Black' = Nubian.
There needs not be any logic behind such an accusation it is just an opinion of people who are biased.
That family would not look out of place in America, The Caribbean, Trinidad, Brazil or anywhere else where people of Black African descent are prominent. The father looks like several people I see on the street every day there is nothing stereotypical about their features that would make me believe they MUST belong to the Sudan.
You're right though Walk, Nubia is not the proper name of the Ancient Kingdom to the South of Ancient Egypt it was called Ta-Seti, the land of the bow and later Kush. Nubia covers a territory of both Modern Southern Egypt and Northern Sudan, the people in Egypt that are called Nubians are just as indegenious as a population in Egypt as anyone else.
quote:Originally posted by Mansa Musa: You're right though Walk, Nubia is not the proper name of the Ancient Kingdom to the South of Ancient Egypt it was called Ta-Seti, the land of the bow and later Kush. Nubia covers a territory of both Modern Southern Egypt and Northern Sudan, the people in Egypt that are called Nubians are just as indegenious as a population in Egypt as anyone else.
Actually, the term Nubia is the name the Romans gave for the lands south of Egypt. Ethnically, the 'Nubians' consisted of various groups of people-- some enemies of Egypt while others allies.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: Actually, the term Nubia is the name the Romans gave for the lands south of Egypt. Ethnically, the 'Nubians' consisted of various groups of people-- some enemies of Egypt while others allies.
Yes, I am aware of that. I'm just talking about the fact that the term "Nubia" is often generalized today by Egyptology as a unified kingdom South of Egypt and completely distinct from it when the modern Nubians are indegenious to both Southern Egypt and Sudan.
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Actually the term "Nubia" is said to have been Egyptian, which was in reference to its southern nome, I believe in the Old Kindgom [if my memory serves me correct]. The Kemetians certainly didn't apply to a whole southern region, but as with other Kemetian terms, the term was later on corrupted by foreign invaders.
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I was under impression it referred to the "Land of Nub (Gold)" or something like that.
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quote:Actually the term "Nubia" is said to have been Egyptian, which was in reference to its southern nome, I believe in the Old Kindgom [if my memory serves me correct]. The Kemetians certainly didn't apply to a whole southern region, but as with other Kemetian terms, the term was later on corrupted by foreign invaders.
No, the term Nubia comes from ''Nub'' meaning gold. The term was never used to refer people south of them. There are a series of terms used by Egyptians such as ta-seti,Yam,Wawat,or etc...
Nubia never became widely used intill the Greco-Roman period.
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The term Nubia has nothing to do with gold, whatsoever. This is only a theory that was started by some ill-informed Eurocentric Scholars and adopted as fact by IGNORANT people.
Can you provide evidence otherwise? What is the etymology of the term Nubia?
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Can you provide evidence otherwise? What is the etymology of the term Nubia?
Yes Abozo, can you provide any evidence to your "claims"?!! How funny you talk about "Eurocentrics" when YOU yourself follow their discourse now you talk about them when in reference to Nubia. Whis is that??
Afrangi fool.
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