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Stupid, I opened this thread with a request for a study about Mali, not southern Europeans, look at my first post in the thread. Second, I asked for thbose studies to find out the exact age of the lineages in question, L1b and A and E1. I don't obsess about Southern Euros, I can care less, but it is you who actually does. I made my apology and quiot those discussions with you and your fellow goof troop Supercar because I knew it would be an endless discussion and you kept spamming the same crap ad-naseum. Come to think of it, I might just will come back here and own both you some more and put you both in your places for stinking up this forum with obsession over Southern Euro "racial" purity.
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Now now guys, let's not turn this into another haplotype argument again, because that's exactly what it looks like it's turning to!!
This thread was very interesting and thanks Rasol and Super for pointing out (exposing) the slight and subtle hand of Eurocentrism.
African geneflow into southeastern Europe i.e. Balkans has been addressed many times already in this board, but we haven't heard too much about African geneflow into southwestern Europe i.e. Iberia.
Paternal E1 is indeed a very old haplotype that more likely correlates with maternal U6.
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quote:Originally posted by Djehuti: This thread was very interesting and thanks Rasol and Super for pointing out (exposing) the slight and subtle hand of Eurocentrism.
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Eurocentrism as whole has been addressed ad-naseum on this board, we all it exists so no need in beating a deadhorse. Its time to start soecifically addressing the individual people who make such fallacious claims, specifically who are these Eurocentrists.
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The only one beating a dead horse with utterly irrelevant ad nauseum arguments is you.
The only one not addressing specifics is you.
You keep looking for some sort of 'last word' that will save face and justify your prior debating debacles, via pointless whining. Not going to happen, sorry....
quote:Djehuti writes: African geneflow into southeastern Europe i.e. Balkans has been addressed many times already in this board, but we haven't heard too much about African geneflow into southwester Europe i.e. Iberia.
Paternal E1 is indeed a very old haplotype that more likely correlates with maternal U6.
The Eurocents can't run and hide any longer
Specific, relevant and on point Djehuti.
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quote:Originally posted by rasol: ^ Charlie, your post makes no sense.
The only one beating a dead horse with utterly irrelevant ad nauseum arguments is you.
The only one not addressing specifics is you.
You keep looking for some sort of 'last word' that will save face and justify your prior debating debacles, via pointless whining. Not going to happen, sorry....
quote:Djehuti writes: African geneflow into southeastern Europe i.e. Balkans has been addressed many times already in this board, but we haven't heard too much about African geneflow into southwester Europe i.e. Iberia.
Paternal E1 is indeed a very old haplotype that more likely correlates with maternal U6.
The Eurocents can't run and hide any longer
Specific, relevant and on point Djehuti.
Obviously you are still trolling yet once again, when you're ready to really say something then talk to me, otherwise just shut up.
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: The problem with the study neglects the other historic slave trade that occured in Northwest Africa . The fact that it was not untill the early 1900's that slavery millions of white Christians was stopped by authorities.Tunisa,Algeria,Morocco and etc. Of course Greco-Roman writers describe dark skinned populations that lived well above the Sahara around the Oasis that survive today as the Haratin in Southern Morocco. Other populations in Fezzan and Siwa that are ''black'' and African in apperance are largely ignored by reserchers. Not to mention that sub-saharan type populations lived in the Sahara desert well before desertifcation.
To ascribe all so-called L3a admixture is a product of slavery is a product of the ''Hamitic Hypothesis'' that still plagues many genetic and anthropological text.
Another problem is the assumption that modern Arabic speaking populations are non-Berber in origin. Simply not true because there was not very large amounts of migration from the Arabian peninsula. Many of the Arabic speaking populations in Morocco,Algeria are just as Berber as the Berber speaking populations. This is not to say there was no migration of Arab bedouin tribes but it was minimal compared to earlier migrants that might have came from the Northern Mediterranean. The only exception I know of almost entirely Arabic ethnic countries in Magreb is Libya and Tunisa.
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