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Redux of Maes-Diop's old map


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So by 3000BC Egaro(Niger-Central West Africa) had Iron smelting

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Quéchon's low date, -1675 is easier for Anglophones to swallow, maybe?
quote:
by Louise Marie Maes-Diop:

Beyond that, in the Journal des Africanistes (62, 2, 1992 : pp. 55-68 ), in
collaboration with F. Paris, A. Person et J.F. Saliège, Gérard Quéchon wrote:

'... in the Egaro region (West Termit), two pots coming from the sites
contained iron objects, which provided even more ancient dates:
2520 and 1675 BC and even
2900-2300 BC in one case.
These dates were obtained in good, laboratory conditions (Saliege,
Lodyc, University of Paris and M. Curie) as well as in the field (Paris
excavation and Quechon,1986)
'. (emphasis ours)

'The probability of the calibrated age in this time range is 95% (confidence
range 2a). The calibration table used is that of Klein et al. 1982
' [36].

Of course of the authors publish these two dates "with all reservation"
and "are waiting confirmation through other results", but homing in on
the date obtained at Ndalane (Senegal) is imposing itself (cf. the above
publication by C. A. Diop, in Notes Africaines, n°152, October 1976, IFAN,
Dakar), as well as the re-examination of the lower layers at Nok and neighbouring sites.

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Umeji, Ibeanu, and Agwu (2010) have similar
pre-2nd millennium iron 'smelting' dates for
Udi-Okigwe way south in Nigeria. Biafrans
wore out the hardwood trees for charcoal.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tukuler:
The problem is these Euros are self-proclaimed experts
about what they really know not. How many of them dream in
a baNtu language when asleep at night? Yet they know more about
it than a born baNtu speaking African who may speak 2 or 3 baNtu
languages as a matter of course.

And I mean that for all of them linguists with not
a single African in their extensive bibliographies.



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