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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
The Arabs who brought Islam were probably one of the few people entering Egypt blacker than the Egyptians themselves. The already partly non-African "red" or fair-skinned Copts of Northern Egypt of the time of the Prophet encountered the lava black tribes of Sulaym and the Hilal of the Hawazin described by Jahiz and the Kurd Ibn Athir. And the Shadeed al Udmah jet black Azd clans of the Khazraj or Aus who were the Ansar or companions of the Prophet. Not to mention the Quraysh of the Kenaniyya themselves still black and living in Hejaz and Israel.



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Can't beat-um, so you decided to join-um eh?

What an intellectual slut you are.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
Can't beat-um, so you decided to join-um eh?

What an intellectual slut you are.

why are you criticizing if I have realized that you were right?
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^^ An intellectual whore...
Girrl, you need some real spanking...
Tut, tut, tut, naughty lioness... [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
^^ An intellectual whore...
Girrl, you need some real spanking...
Tut, tut, tut, naughty lioness... [Big Grin]

it's a good post, stop imitating lil mikey and learn to reward me for good behavior

black power

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quote:
Originally posted by the lion:
quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
^^ An intellectual whore...
Girrl, you need some real spanking...
Tut, tut, tut, naughty lioness... [Big Grin]

it's a good post, stop imitating lil mikey and learn to reward me for good behavior

black power

Colour of your new panties??? S'about time.. [Big Grin]
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.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZIeIbNxSE

Ancient Arabia - Yemen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GfK35bxnWY&feature=fvw

Treasures Of Ancient Arabia

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No - you wait a minute. Her's another lesson.

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Axumite sculpture

Look familiar, lion? Look at 1:41 in the first video you posted. Yes - Sabaean i.e. Ethiopians and Axumite in the Horn - they all looked alike so they portrayed themselves quite similarly. [Wink]

I personally like this music a lot better from the less "mixed" parts of Arabia, rather than that Middle Eastern music in the 2nd video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=pJuT7m1wckE&feature=related
Jizan


http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=6AVCKzR3J3s&playnext_from=TL&videos=xFqZGkPzWpU

Iranians or Abna mixed with the Kushi Himyarites_Sabaeans and formed the modern Yemenites. They took over Sana'a and many places formerly known as Ethiopia i.e. Himyar, Saba and Qataban. They aligned with the nearly Sabaean originated near black Hamdan tribes i.e. Canaanites from the Hivite (Hawt) against near black Madhij from Kahlan brother of Himyar(Madhij leaders called themselves el aswad) and other "pure Arabs" from the lands of Saba otherwise known as Ethiopia. Later the Hamdan and other tribes mixed with the Iranians. Wah ibn Munabbih who wrote of the Banu Kinaniyyah or Canaanites from that area was a descendant o these Abna.

Arab nationalism arose because of such conflicts, as well as disdain for fair skin.


From the book - The Yemen in Early Islam -

“The sources record that the reason behind the Abna-Hamdan movement was to oppose an internal movement by the Madhij and their allies against Persian rule in Sana’a. “ Mad’aj p. 7.


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Descendant of Non-Sabaeans in Yemen


The second video has to many sculptures of Romans from Jordan in it. It goes to to show you need to before your troll, you need to stroll thru some history books.

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Modern Ethiopian woman

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Ancient Sabaean woman - BEFORE the coming of the Sassanid Scythic Iranians.

Yes - Africans i.e. the Arabs in Arabia once looked just like their ancestors.

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^ LOL @ the cowardly lioness's attempt at passively aggressively debunking your claims Dana.

You see the Lioness as a Mustarib brainwashed buffoon of northern Sudan not only has self-hatred loathing for his black identity and African heritage. He has no clue that the original Arab Aribah or indigenes of Arabia were themselves of African ancestry and BLACK themselves! Of course all he has to show for his efforts are unpainted statues of faces with thin narrow noses and lips as if this is proof of non-black peoples. [Embarrassed]

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Still insulting the Africans in north Sudan I see. They all don't think alike, you closet racist. Dana watch out for this one, he's known for insulting black scholars, calling them "silly" when he can't refute their work.
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The Sabaeans or Sabćans (Arabic: Arabian language who lived in what is today Yemen, in the south west of the Arabian Peninsula,whose capital was Ma'rib (Mariab of the inscriptions) Some Sabaeans also lived inMariaba D'mt, located in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, due to their hegemony over the Red Sea.

Aksum was previously thought to have been founded by Semitic-speaking Sabaeans who crossed the Red Sea from South Arabia (modern Yemen) on the basis of Conti Rossini's theories and prolific work on Ethiopian history, but most scholars now agree that it was an indigenous development. Scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay point to the existence of an older D’mt or Da'amot kingdom, prior to any Sabaean migration ca. 4th or 5th c. BC, as well as to evidence of Sabaean immigrants having resided in Ethiopia for little more than a few decades. Furthermore, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Ethiopia, is now known to not have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC. Sabaean influence is now thought to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the Ethiopian civilization of D`mt or some proto-Aksumite state. Adding more to the confusion, there existed an Ethiopian city called Saba in the ancient period that does not seem to have been a Sabaean settlement.

Ancient Sabaean sculpture



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3rd-2nd century BC
From Marib or Qataban, Yemen


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Quraysh was the tribe to which the Islamic prophet Muhammad belonged. He was born into the Hashemite clan of the Quraysh but was expelled from it once he began preaching Islam and monotheism. The Quraysh initially opposed the spread of Islam.
According to Arabic history books, the Quraysh was a branch of the Banu Kinanah tribe, which descended from the Khuzaimah

The Quraysh remained completely disunited until Qusai ibn Kilab managed to rally their ranks on honourable terms attaching major prominence to their status and importance. After the introduction of Islam, the Quraysh gained supremacy and produced the three dynasties of the Ummayad Caliphate, the Abbasid Caliphate and the Fatimid Caliphate.

According to traditional legends, Arab lineages allegedly originate from three groups:

1. Perished Arabs These are the ancients of whose history little is known. They include ‘Ad, Thaműd, Tasam, Jadis, Imlaq and others.
2. Pure Arabs : They originated from the progeny of Ya‘rub bin Yashjub bin Qahtan bin Hud so were also called Qahtanian Arabs.
3. Arabized Arabs: They originated from the progeny of Ishmael and were also called ‘Adnanite Arabs. The Quraysh are a branch of the "Arabized Arabs".

According to Arabic history books, the Quraysh was a branch of the Banu Kinanah tribe, which descended from the Khuzaimah
Banu Kinanah(Arabic: is the largest Adnanite tribe of western Saudi Arabia in Hijjaz . They are descended from Kinanah, who was a grandson of Ilyas (known as Elijah in Jewish and Christian traditions) who was named after the prophet Elijah

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Ethiopia/Eretria and Arabians have both cross border admixture witch it is apparent in Ethiopia/Eretria and Arabia via Y-DNA/mtDNA

Haplogroup J1 presence Eritrea (11%), Ethiopia (9%), Ethiopia-Amhara (33.3%).
"Lookup Haplogroup J on wiki"

Yemeni women Arabia
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Tigray woman Ethiopia
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Hamar women Ethiopia
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quote:
Originally posted by Leo Minor:
Ethiopia/Eretria and Arabians have both cross border admixture witch it is apparent in Ethiopia/Eretria and Arabia via Y-DNA/mtDNA

Haplogroup J1 presence Eritrea (11%), Ethiopia (9%), Ethiopia-Amhara (33.3%).
"Lookup Haplogroup J on wiki"

Yemeni women Arabia
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Tigray woman Ethiopia
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Hamar women Ethiopia
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How much "Ethiopian DNA" is found in Arabia? Is there more "Ethiopian DNA" in Arabia than there is "Arabian DNA" in Ethiopia? If not or if so what does that mean?

Also something to pinder:

What does it mean when you can find Arabians in Arabia that look 100% Ethiopian yet you CANNOT find Ethiopians in Ethiopia that look 100% Arabian?

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Checkout this link, it is apparent that both populations share a cross border gene pool of African and Asiatic ancestry which is actually not surprising in a Semitic Afro-asiatic context.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Ethiopia

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quote:
Originally posted by the lion:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTZIeIbNxSE

Ancient Arabia - Yemen


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GfK35bxnWY&feature=fvw

Treasures Of Ancient Arabia

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GOOD ONE...Show what Arabs REALLY looked like..Kuddos to you for that.
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
^ LOL @ the cowardly lioness's attempt at passively aggressively debunking your claims Dana.

You see the Lioness as a Mustarib brainwashed buffoon of northern Sudan not only has self-hatred loathing for his black identity and African heritage. He has no clue that the original Arab Aribah or indigenes of Arabia were themselves of African ancestry and BLACK themselves! Of course all he has to show for his efforts are unpainted statues of faces with thin narrow noses and lips as if this is proof of non-black peoples. [Embarrassed]

Djehuti - are u sure?I really think this is a woman of Central or West African ancestry living outside of Africa who thinks all blacks with narrow noses are somehow not African as her. That is what I have been getting from the posts. She also thinks that North Sudanese are all racists against south Sudanese which doesn't make much sense because North Sudanese to me look much like West Africans.

In other words she may have an inferiority complex like many of the Euronuts on the board who are fearful based on what they have been taught about the Arabs. She is also mad because of how Somalis have shown racism against the Bant as other Africans on this board are.

I forgot she also called Gigantic a "pink arse" or something of that sort so I do think she or he is definitely black.

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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Still insulting the Africans in north Sudan I see. They all don't think alike, you closet racist. Dana watch out for this one, he's known for insulting black scholars, calling them "silly" when he can't refute their work.

Anguish - I don't think is true. I have seen disputes between Djehuti and others on the board and just because one is not "black" or African, that doesn't mean they don't hgave a rigght to consider something silly or not. Believe me Djehuti is not at all interested/t in giving up a single thing to Eurasians or Eurasiatics. That might be why he sometimes doesn't agree with you.

Not to be picky but there are very few if any scholars on this board.Some who are degreed in fact seem to have a lot of things mixed up and others who are not have done an awful lot of historical research and have a more comprehensive awareness of many different aspects of African and Afro-Asiatic history than some of the Ph.Ds that I know.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
The Sabaeans or Sabćans (Arabic: Arabian language who lived in what is today Yemen, in the south west of the Arabian Peninsula,whose capital was Ma'rib (Mariab of the inscriptions) Some Sabaeans also lived inMariaba D'mt, located in northern Ethiopia and Eritrea, due to their hegemony over the Red Sea.

Aksum was previously thought to have been founded by Semitic-speaking Sabaeans who crossed the Red Sea from South Arabia (modern Yemen) on the basis of Conti Rossini's theories and prolific work on Ethiopian history, but most scholars now agree that it was an indigenous development. Scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay point to the existence of an older D’mt or Da'amot kingdom, prior to any Sabaean migration ca. 4th or 5th c. BC, as well as to evidence of Sabaean immigrants having resided in Ethiopia for little more than a few decades. Furthermore, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Ethiopia, is now known to not have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of a Semitic speaking presence in Ethiopia and Eritrea at least as early as 2000 BC. Sabaean influence is now thought to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the Ethiopian civilization of D`mt or some proto-Aksumite state. Adding more to the confusion, there existed an Ethiopian city called Saba in the ancient period that does not seem to have been a Sabaean settlement.

Ancient Sabaean sculpture



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3rd-2nd century BC
From Marib or Qataban, Yemen


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_______________________________________________

Quraysh was the tribe to which the Islamic prophet Muhammad belonged. He was born into the Hashemite clan of the Quraysh but was expelled from it once he began preaching Islam and monotheism. The Quraysh initially opposed the spread of Islam.
According to Arabic history books, the Quraysh was a branch of the Banu Kinanah tribe, which descended from the Khuzaimah

The Quraysh remained completely disunited until Qusai ibn Kilab managed to rally their ranks on honourable terms attaching major prominence to their status and importance. After the introduction of Islam, the Quraysh gained supremacy and produced the three dynasties of the Ummayad Caliphate, the Abbasid Caliphate and the Fatimid Caliphate.

According to traditional legends, Arab lineages allegedly originate from three groups:

1. Perished Arabs These are the ancients of whose history little is known. They include ‘Ad, Thaműd, Tasam, Jadis, Imlaq and others.
2. Pure Arabs : They originated from the progeny of Ya‘rub bin Yashjub bin Qahtan bin Hud so were also called Qahtanian Arabs.
3. Arabized Arabs: They originated from the progeny of Ishmael and were also called ‘Adnanite Arabs. The Quraysh are a branch of the "Arabized Arabs".

According to Arabic history books, the Quraysh was a branch of the Banu Kinanah tribe, which descended from the Khuzaimah
Banu Kinanah(Arabic: is the largest Adnanite tribe of western Saudi Arabia in Hijjaz . They are descended from Kinanah, who was a grandson of Ilyas (known as Elijah in Jewish and Christian traditions) who was named after the prophet Elijah

Thankfully Tariq Berry has posted the writings of Al Baladhuri and Al Dhahabi of 14th Syria which speaks of the Quraysh tribes of Hashem and clanso f the Quraysh Banu Zuhra, Jumah, Makhzumi. So we know most importantly what their Canaanite i.e. ancestors looked like. Infact they are described as having black skin. Even before that we are told by Qutaybah and Wah ibn Munabbih what the Kinaniyyah looked like and by distorted Talmud who spoke of them as cursed thieves with large sexual organs.

It is clear the modern tribe of Kun'an of Bisha and Banu Kenanah of todays southern Hejaz and modern Israel are the same black skinned Kinanah that these ancient tribes spoke so often of.
Plus "the black and tall" Dawasir descendant of the "jet black Azd originated these tribes further north which are still known as Qainan and Nadir in th Dawasir area.

What you must understand is that these tribes are still living in their black skins and if you will read you will find that because they were of the noble Arabs they didn't want to blend with the blood of foreign concubines as did so many other tribes.

When I was shown a picture of the modern Qurasyh tribe of the Kenaniyya living in Israel/Palestine I was told that they often complained about being too black. I just assumed that they were descended from slaves brought from Nubia as the Israelis like to say. In truth the blackness of modern Nubians had nothing on the blackness of many of the tribes of Arabia, and I mean nothing.

Everyone should get know Arabic or read Tariq's book and learn how early or original Arabs described themselves and their slaves before they began settling among Syrians, Iraqis and Spaniards.Its really fascinating how the world has been changed upside down - literally from black to white. [Wink]


I should comment here that the broad foreheaded Sabaeans and the broad foreheaded Amharic people were undoubtedly one and the same as shown fro physical anthropological evidence. I guess kind of like the African people who made the sculptures of Old Kingdom Egyptians.

For more descriptions of the members of the Quraysh as well as related tribes read my posts fear of Blackness.

In fact Axumites and Sabaeans were the same people speaking the same dialects and migrating back and forth over the Eritrean (red) Sea for several thousand years.That is why many ofthe same names are found on both sides of the Red Sea.

And Eliyas was indeed Elias, just as Bariq was Baraq, and Aram was Aram and Kenan Canaan.The original Jews came from Peleg who were brethren of the south Arabian Qahtan - all one and the same people.

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Still insulting the Africans in north Sudan I see. They all don't think alike, you closet racist. Dana watch out for this one, he's known for insulting black scholars, calling them "silly" when he can't refute their work.

Anguish - I don't think is true. I have seen disputes between Djehuti and others on the board and just because one is not "black" or African, that doesn't mean they don't hgave a rigght to consider something silly or not. Believe me Djehuti is not at all interested/t in giving up a single thing to Eurasians or Eurasiatics. That might be why he sometimes doesn't agree with you.

Not to be picky but there are very few if any scholars on this board.Some who are degreed in fact seem to have a lot of things mixed up and others who are not have done an awful lot of historical research and have a more comprehensive awareness of many different aspects of African and Afro-Asiatic history than some of the Ph.Ds that I know.

Gee, you aint seen nothing yet;
Jehute is a snake! [Big Grin]
Watch out for a sneaky bite!

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^ i warned her. lol
quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Still insulting the Africans in north Sudan I see. They all don't think alike, you closet racist. Dana watch out for this one, he's known for insulting black scholars, calling them "silly" when he can't refute their work.

Anguish - I don't think is true.
Don't have to take my word, go look at the thread. It has nothing to do with him being non-black.
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeing:
Still insulting the Africans in north Sudan I see. They all don't think alike, you closet racist. Dana watch out for this one, he's known for insulting black scholars, calling them "silly" when he can't refute their work.

anguish I have seen this and half the time I have to admit I agree him. Besides, anyone who comes out and says someone is silly when he believes it is not worth responding to is being direct and not a snake. Anyway what black scholars are yu talking abut? What Afro-centric "scholars" are you talking about?

There is definitely alot of silliness being written on of this forum by blacks because it is based on a misconceptions or not a broad enough knowledge of the history and cultures being dealt with.

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dana what was your opinion of this photo Leo put up as being called "Yemeni woman"

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It is widely known that white people are the inferior race descended from albinised baboons. It is well-documented that white people are the genetic version of trickle-down economics. Starting out as robust black hominids several million years ago in modern-day Africa, the weaker tribes were driven north into the freezing cold Europe where they evolved into rugged but dimwitted neanderthals while the intellectual and artistic homo sapiens were evolving in Africa. Eventually homo sapien explorers made their way to Europe where they encountered this alternative species of human. As these explorers were primarily males that hadn't been laid in months, they had little choice but to breed with the neanderthal women creating the modern white, or caucasian race. It is not a coincidence that the only countries that produce people with light skin, hair, and eyes are the same countries where the only neanderthal fossils have been found. Early in human history a small group of whites in Greece and Italy who had more homo sapien blood than their contemporaries in northern Europe actually began to develop civilized culture. This however angered the northern Europeans so much that they decided to invade the Greek and Roman cities and teach the "race traitors" about real white heritage as taught by their neanderthal forefathers; beating, destroying, or burning anything you aren't intelligent enough to understand, thus beginning the Dark Ages.

White people are under the delusion that they are superior. As they have been educated stupid since their first forays into civilization, this is not surprising. One good thing about the white race is their ability to blindly follow their leaders in perfect lockstep, however ridiculous the instructions might sound. This has allowed the white man to become a useful idiot and scapegoat for the real perpetrators of The Plan.

Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 Inventions
2 Caucasian Behaviour
2.1 Sex
2.2 Food
2.3 Shelter
2.4 Religion
2.5 Clothing
2.6 White IQ
2.7 White crime
3 White Culture
3.1 Music
3.2 White Dances
3.3 White Pride
3.4 Hobbies
4 Whitey In Action
5 They all look the same to me
6 Not all White People Are White
6.1 Politically Correct Alternatives to "White"
7 Conclusion
8 Gallery
9 Cracker Jokes
10 See Also
11 External Links

History

This is what the continent of Africa looked like before the arrival of the white man
Typical white leaders
White people are at the bottom of the genome tree of human evolution.
Typical middle class suburbs that Whitey believes is the apex of human civilization.
They breed prodigiously, like rats. Especially the Mormons.
The purest Caucasians (the people of the Caucasus Mountains) look like this.Throughout history, the white man has been consistent in one thing. Rewriting history. Enslaved by Moors, conquered by Egyptians, sold as sex-slaves by sheiks - had these facts not been expunged from their history books, their children might have escaped the current yoke of white guilt.


The purest Caucasian Mikhail SaakashviliWhites sometimes are known as caucasians, as german racial scientists once thought, that white race first appeared in Caucasus region. Term 'caucasian race' are more appealing to Americans (if compared say 'european race') and it have scientific flavor, however natives of Caucasus region are much too dark and hooked nosed for whites. Native caucasian - Georgians and Armenians could be mistaken for Arabs or Hispanics. Chechens of north Caucasus are much paler and have European features, however they often organize themselves in Islamic fundamentalist gangs, what don't make them even less WASPy.

Inventions
Almost every invention purported to be created by white people was actually stolen from one of the pure races.

Freedom & Constitutional Democracy, stolen from olive-skinned Greeks
Geography and paper banknotes - Chinese
Schools - Egyptians
Rock & Roll - Niggers
Al Chemistry - Arabs
Slavery - Turks
Mathematics - Indians
Hollywood, Televizion and modern banking system - Jews.
Medicine - stolen from yellow-skinned Siberians
However, white people have invented some items of note.

USA
AIDS
Bailout plan
Communism
Creationism
Fascism
Faggots
Ku Klux Klan
Liberalism
Tanning
Larry the Cable Guy
Peanut butter
Caucasian Behaviour
The male specimen tends to be a redneck, a Tool fan, a frat boy or an emo. During the day they travel in packs to the mall or travel alone in search of anything to molest. At night, the emofag cuts itself, the redneck posts on YouTube or MySpace, the Tool fan listens to terrible music and the frat boy goes on a rape spree and/or gets humjobs from freshman pledges. Most white people can be found on Youtube leaving racial comments on rap videos because they believe they are changing the world.

The female specimen begins the adult life-cycle as a 16 year old girl, though can more often be found in their final form, hovering near a beer tap. During the day they flock together to look for clothes or fattening food, then get on Facebook or MySpace, to bask in the glow of unwarranted self-importance. At night they busy themselves being almost raped and working on their careers.

Sex

Average suburban Whitey teenage male doing average Whitey teenage things, like raping your neighbor's dogWhiteys are world-renowned rapists and dabblers in all sorts of sexual perversion. White men rape children in Asia, and take sex slaves from Africa and South America. The white man is not above having sex with dogs or taking it in the ass from horses. Not surprisingly, white women are known for preferring black 12-inch cock over tiny 2-inch white cocks, and sometimes for having extreme fetishes and dying from bizarre sexual acts.

Food
Amongst white people, greasy, nutritionally-barren bland food is the norm. Hamburgers, Americanized "Mexican Food", and the ubiquitous all-you-can-eat buffet are essential to the white American diet. Picture if you will a 500-pound fat **** who is actually malnourished, living amongst a pile of McDonald's wrappers and shitty discarded underwear while drinking a Diet Coke. Nothing beats good-old white ingenuity!

Shelter
White people tend to congregate outside of cities in large developments of houses that look completely bland and alike. Their brains lack the ability to grasp new concepts, so they are frightened and disturbed by anything unusual or requiring complex thought to understand. It is because of this that whites create large housing developments with strict rules - the stricter the rules, the less thought required. Whitey is also known to chill under specially designated white trees.

Religion
Most white people are Christian of one stripe or another, which makes perfect sense, as it was stolen entirely from Judaism. If not Christian, they've probably chosen Atheism, which often means you are dealing with a liberal. Tread carefully.

Clothing
In the summertime, white people, especially the middle-aged ones, will inevitably wear inappropriately short shorts to show off their marmalade-like, shapeless legs. They seem to think other people enjoy seeing these varicose vein-riddled blobs of uncooked dough, but they are badly mistaken.

White IQ

Race and white IQ.Unbiased racial measurements show that different races do have different IQs. By tests, Negroes, Arabs and Hispanics indeed have lower IQs. However, if a white person's IQ is 100, the Asian average is 105. Jews have even higher median IQ of 110. This means that this race is even smarter. This kind of crappy racial science could be found on white supremacist websites.

White crime
If compared to the general population, whites have elevated numbers of serial killers. World famous serial killers like Charles Manson, Jack the Ripper, Andrei Chikatilo, Richard Trenton Chase, Richard Speck, and Jeffrey Dahmer were all white. Hitler and Slobodan Miloshevitz also could be on the list, but they used politics instead of operating alone. However, followers of these are found among other races, for example in Uganda.

White Culture
As white people have no native culture, they are forced to co-opt bits and pieces from every other society in the world, simultaneously combining them into a horrible mishmash of 'diversity' while ruining the original.

Music
Whites claim to have created rock music, but again, all they did was steal it from the black man. Jazz was created by blacks so that white people couldn't come along and ruin it, but even that has been gentrified. The current assault on black music by the white man is readily apparent.

White Dances
White people square dance, which is a highly structured form of a redneck mating ritual. Still taught in schools, this staple of Americana could not be more aptly named. Junior proms and senior balls are the main thrust of population growth among the entire economic scale of the white population. Another form of melanin-deficient dance is called ballet, which comes from the french for 'see my taint'. This is done on stage wearing pantyhose.

White Pride
Moar info: White Nationalism.


Hobbies
Though whites have many hobbies, they are generally mediocre at most of them, especially sports, music and sex (all three of which the black race clearly has the upper-hand in). However, there are a few fields where a white person will excel. These include:

Taking credit for others' accomplishments
Being serial killers
Coprophilia
Flying to Thailand to **** 11 year old boys
Domestic violence
Sci-Fi/Fantasy based pseudo-religions
Becoming more butthurt than the race in question when another race is made fun of, even if members of that other race clearly don't give a ****.
Incest
Whitey In Action

Average "handsome" middle-class white guy, obviously much better than those poor whiteys.1

What happens when you give wiggers too much money

Wow incest,trailerparks,and beer all in one incidentTypical white couple
Previous Video | Next Video


They all look the same to me
As a subset of the Caucasian race, whitey includes a plethora of diverse backgrounds which include the peoples of Romania, Spain, Sweden, Russia and the Middle East. However, inbreeding is rampant, as evidenced by the various distinct facial features of whites (huge foreheads, long thin crooked noses, eyes too close together, &c.), their ability to become grossly overweight, and the existence of gingers.

Not all White People Are White

Don't know if white...Despite the degrading implications that come with being associated with the white race, there are still those who take pride in pretending they are at least loosely associated with this perverted species of rapists and plunderers. Some examples include:

Coconut: Brown on the outside; white on the inside. May be Pakis, spooks, or Beaners.
Oreo: Black on the outside; white on the inside.
Apple: Red on the outside; white on the inside.
Twinkie or Banana: Yellow on the outside; white on the inside.
Politically Correct Alternatives to "White"
8 Mile
Beach-Nigger (for overly tanned people)
Betty Crocker (for females)
Bleach Boy
Bogan (Australian for redneck/trailer trash)
Bro-ho (white woman who dates a black man)
Caulkie
Chav
Cock-Asian (white person trying to be Asian)
Cocksauce
Cracker
Dick sucker
Fag
Fishbelly
Gai-jin (Japanese word for wapanese)
Gavacho (like gringo only more modern)
Ghost
Gringo
Hay Seed
Hick
Hillbilly
Honkey
Hoosier
Maggot
Mayflower
Negrophiliac (white person whose obsessed with being black)
Opie
Otaku (similar to gai-jin)
Pea-pickers
Peckerwood
Poppin Fresh
Porch Honkey
Rabbi
Redneck
Sheethead (kkk reference)
Slim Shady (white boy tryin to act black)
Snowflake
Trailer trash
Wapanese
Wasp (white anglo-saxon protestant)
White bread
White Trash
Whitey
Wigger
Yuppie
Conclusion

U all talk like British pplWhite men are self-loathing turds who are afraid of everything, including themselves. They hate black people because they supposedly aren't productive enough in society. So the douchebags should love the Jews right? No; the insecure pussies hate them too because they fucking beat them at their own ****. Same with Asians, they hate them because they’re too smart. You never hear Asians whining like goddamn white retards do about blacks getting affirmative action. Mexicans want to come here to WORK. They’ll steal the job at McDonald’s you hate. Life must be unbearable as a melanin-deficient. Enjoy reveling in your past achievements (raping other races with their only constructive invention, weapons). Soon white people will have nothing to do, while blacks **** their women, Jews, Asians and women run everything, and Mexicans take the skilled labor as the tech jobs go to India. Oppression can only hide your inadequacies for so long. White people are too sensitive - they cry about things that normal (Black, Jewish, Asian) people don't give a **** about. White people are like evil aliens, but they fail at everything.

Gallery
White folk family album
Typical residence of whiteys.
White people are a nomadic folk.
Nigger vs. Honky. Go for broke.
Vital for when white suburban youth attend "rap" concerts.


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Typical white art.
Use these to look more intimidating with kung fu skills.
Typical white family.
Caucasian mating ritual.

Blacks are rumored to harbor resentment against whitey for some strange reason.
Typical whitey.

Typical white nerd.
Whites in their natural habitat.
Passtime of the Master Race.
Sneaking into the women's shower room.

Fucking dead cats.
Typical straight white buddies.
Going to McDonald's.
Stormfront illustrated.

White mating.
Typical white penis size
White women prefer black dicks for a reason.
White dick is no match for black dick.

White Trash beauty queen: From the failed "Girls of the Buffet" spread
White people suck!!!
Whitey gets nervous around black folks.
White celebration

A white man shows off his baby dick.
White people make great parents.


Cracker Jokes

White Men get raped quite often.
Q. What's white and fourteen inches long?
A. Absolutely nothing!

Q. What did a white guy see when he looked at his family tree?
A. A straight line!

Q. Why do so many white people get lost skiing?
A. It's hard to find them in the snow.

Q. What do you call a bunch of white guys sitting on a bench?
A. The NBA.

Q. What do you call 300 white men chasing a black man?
A. The PGA tour.

Q. How do you stop five white guys from raping a white woman?
A. Throw them a golf ball.

Q. Why do white people like to play hockey?
A. It’s the only way to beat on something black if they're not a cop.

Q. What's the definition of a white virgin?
A. Any girl who can outrun her father and brothers.

Q. How do you castrate a white person?
A. Kick his sister in the jaw.

Q. What do white women, and tampons have in common?
A. They're both stuck up cunts.

Q. What do you call a white person on fire?
A. A firecracker

Q. What do you call a bunch of white people falling?
A. Avalanche

Q. How did the white lady know her daughter was on the rag?
A. Her son's dick tasted funny

Q. What do you call a white man with a sheep under each arm?
A. A pimp.

Q. What do spoiled milk and a white bitch's thighs have in common?
A. They're both white and chunky!

Q. What did the black guy say when he went down on a dirty white bitch who hadn't washed for a week?
A. "Damn, Bitch! I like eatin' crackers with cheese, but this is fuckin' nasty!"
See Also
White Trash
White Middle Class Liberal
Black People Love Us!
Missing white woman syndrome
Not gay
Not white
Queen Kong
Marry Your Pet
White nationalism
Billy The Heretic
A White Man
ZrA
Chuggo
Chris Chan -The epitome of whiteness
External Links
Jett and Jahn - Racist Wiggers
White slavery
http://finalsolution88.com
Stuff white people like
Stormfront.org - Contains a troll-ready circle-jerk forum filled with White Nationalists
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quote:
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dana what was your opinion of this photo Leo put up as being called "Yemeni woman"

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I would say good for her. I could put up Yemenis with red hair much lighter than her as well as modern Sudanese just as light in complexion. Frankly, she is a lot darker than some people in my nuclear family and that still wouldn't make the "blacker than ink" Sabaean descended Azd, black skinned Quraysh and Himyarites (Kushi) and Hamdan Sabeans (Hamdan of Dishan or Canaanites see Genesis32-33) any less blacker than the Iranians and Syrians and Europeans said they were 1800 and 1000 years ago.

Almost all people have been intermixing for ages and they should be proud of wherever their ancestors came from. The African related culture that was in the Yemen 2,000 years ago was hardly related to the many of the cultures there today, and there are obvious reasons for that. [Wink]

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dana would you call the above Yemeni woman a black woman?
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jesus woman, why do you insist on trying to find evidence of "mulatto" civilization everywhere? are you going to use that picture as characteristic of yemenis? should we single out blacks in greece as evidence that greece was a black civilization? mike does. lol
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quote:
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dana would you call the above Yemeni woman a black woman?

Let us be for real. Black is a political term in the US so of course she is not black in my book. The term black in the Arabic however according to early linguists (of several centuries ago) Ibn Mandhur and Ibn Berry meant someone that was literally black in color. The woman above would have been considered "mixed with red", and probably because white was used for very dark skinned people like the Banu Shaiba whose tribe took care of the Kaaba in Mecca below belonging to the Quraysh tribe of Hashem.

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Banu Shaiba descend from the Hashem clan of the Quraysh. He is what would have been called "white" or clear complexioned black man "white" is supposed to have meant a black with a clear complexion with a brownish undertone or one that is light and clear enough that doesn't show any black blotchiness.

"White" did not mean a fair skinned person, but as with Hebrew whitness dealt with luminousity of the complexion "not chromacity" (See Goldenberg, David, The Curse of Ham, p. 93) and see what early Arab linguists said about how the term "white" was used for black men in his book The Unknown Arabs or on his blog savethetruearabs.com. You can buy his book there too.

The Banu Shaiba are derived from a man named Shaiba who was of the Hashemite "famille ou dominait le sang negre" from Etudes sur le Cycles des Omayyades." 1930

That is to say he was from the Banu Hashem family where "black blood" has dominated due to not wanting to mix with foreigners like the Syrian, Iranian and Byzantine people then surrounding them. All sub-clans of the Quraysh until a late period were noted for their blackness. This includes Banu Zuhra, Jumah, Makzumi, as well as the Kenaniyyah clans they derived from.

Muhammed's uncles on both maternal and paternal sides are described as black. Tariq quoted Uncle Saad ibn Waqqas a famous leader, brother of the Prophet's mother. He is described as black and very tall with a flat nose by el Dhahabi. He was of pure Arabian stock.

You will never see a movie on Al Jazair made about the Quraysh in the Middle East as they looked. Believe me.

All members of the family of Muhamed (pbuh)when they are described are described as black in early Arabic writings. Many individuals from various clans of the Quraysh aside from cousins and grandparents of the Prophet are called black-skinned - and understand when one talks about "black" in Arabic you are not necessarily talking about the black of an African American but a literally black person.

Tariq quotes 9th c. Jahiz of Iraq and 14th c. el Dhahabi of Syria and calling an uncle on the other side "huge and black-skinned". And yet today most people would have a big problem with a depiction of Muhammed as a black man although he came from a black tribe descended from other documented black tribes.

Even the poet Rumi made the comment that to Middle Eastern Arabized people in his time - you dare to insult black people when the pure Arabs of the Prophet's family still live when their blood had been tainted by the (Rum).

Black or Adam - was the color of the early Arab or Semite and "shadeed al udmah" jet black and "akhdar" near black (literally green) like many tribes across the modern Sudan extending toward the Atlantic.

The fact that these blacks brought their language northward in various times and that other people came to speak their languages does not modify this truth.

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Modern man of the Banu Kinaniyyah of Jericho in Israel.

The Banu Kinaniyyah founded towns called Jerichos or Yerakh along the southwest coast of Arabia in the Yemen first. Just as the Sulaym or Soleym founded towns named Arwe Sulayim, Salem or Salim in south Arabia before settling north among the "white Syrians" founding Hierosolyma or Yerusalim.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness:
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There are many Arab and Arabian tribes with families of different complexions today. Obviously some are more Arab then they other. The Rashaida claim descent from the Banu Abs a tribe which comes from the Qays Ailan or El Nas brother of ElYas.

Of the Abs tribe an early eyewitness said " I see black-skinned men shaking their spears and digging in the earth with their feet. Quoted from El Iqd El Fareed by ibn Rabbihu of the 11th century by Tariq in the Unknown Arabs p. 78.

The Arabs of today however are not necessarily like those of early and ancient times.


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Rashaida Arab girls of the horn

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Rashaida Arab girl of the horn Eritrea

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Rashaida man of southern Arabia

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Rashaida men of Sudan

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Rashaida woman from the Horn

The "black-skinned" people known as Arabs were great takers of concubines and that is how we get the varied appearance of many of the Arab tribes of today. They range from near black like their original ancestors to near white or so called "red people". The same has happened with the Berbers.

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{ Correction above} - The Persian (Tajikistani) or Central Asian Poet Rumi 13th c. said the blood of the Middle Eastern Arabs that were insulting black Arabs was tainted (modified) by the Byzantines while the pure Arabs were still living. They had the audacity to talk insulting blackness when members of the Quraysh were still around.

It sounded like I said something else above, and I don't want to get anymore confused than they already are.: )

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We can go right down the list of all the Arabian tribes north to south and show how before they became fair in color they were described as near black and black. But I would rather save this for my own web-site.

In the 13th century the famed Arab linguist Ibn Manzur said "most Arabs were dark brown". He also said "kinky hair is the kind of hair that most Arabs have."

Linguist Ibn Berry said in the 12th century that "the Arabs describe their color as black and they describe the color of the non-Arab Persians as red."

The color brown in Arabic referred to the color of millions ob sub-Saharan Africans.

Most of the great Arab leaders and poets of the past were in fact individuals whose tribes are described as black or jet black.

They had not yet all mixed with the woman of the people they had conquered the Syrians, Persians, Turks, Greeks, Romans and Spaniards.

I don't know exactly when it was that people started thinking the Arabs were originally fair or yellowish white in complexion but this must have been a recently developed belief in the west. Perhaps since the Ottoman period when large numbers of blacks from Africa began arriving in North Africa and Arabia as slaves.

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quote:
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dana would you call the above Yemeni woman a black woman?

quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:
of course she is not black in my book.

You say the above woman is not "black" but say Muhammad was black.

So what is the date or time range when

a) not black people like the woman above became the majority of the population in Mecca?

b) the first not black Caliph as recognized by the Sunni?

c) The first not black Imam successor to Muhammad as recognized by the Shia?

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Is your question about not Arabs or Not blacks because there were black people in Arabia that are not and were not originally Arabs. I don't see the relevance of your questions this time.

However, if you are going to ask when the first concubines started coming to Mecca from what understand it was during or right before the time of the Prophet(pbuh) who himself was supposed to have owned a "pale or fair-skinned" dark haired girl of Byzantine Coptic origin named Mariam.

If I am remembering correctly ,by the time of Ibn Butlan (10th-11th century) the women of Mecca and Medina are described the first as pale and the latter as Golden Brown while the Buja (Beja) south of Egypt are golden.

So there is not telling when the first Imam of concubine lineage lived.

I had read somewhere that about the red men that stole the Kaaba, whatever that means. When they this they are talking about the Carmathians who had a large number of Iranians who originated in the far East of Arabia near "Persia". Carmathians ruled Mecca from the 10th to the 13th century until supposedly the Mameluks (East European Turks/Albanians, Slavs, etc.) came and took over the city from them.

So obviously Mecca epitomizes an area where modification has occurred in the population and culture over many centuries as elsewhere in Arabia and North Africa.

I am not really too interested in research on caliphs or Sunni and Shia and if I was a Muslim I would probably be Sufi. All I know is that the early Umayyad caliphs were mainly from the pure Arabians that were described black and like I have previously said they did not look highly upon a light or fair skin. Most early caliphs or governors were from the Banu Sulaym and from the Quraysh and we have already talked about the many writers who spoke of them being black in complexion, "like lava" or extremely black.

One of the earliest caliphs Mu'awiyyah, the first of the Umayyad dynasty wondered whether half of white people should be "exterminated" and whether the rest should be left to build roads.

I have alreeady posted his comments that were taken from Tariq Berry's citations from the book Iqd al Farid. Mu'awiyya's son Yazid is called "black-skinned, hairy and huge" in one account. In fact these early rulers were little concerned about converting or teaching the subject peoples they conquered Islam. The non-Arabs were seen as laboreres or servile people, I guess something like the slaves of the U.S. Hence el Mubarrad claimed in the 9th century the Arabs used to look down on fair skin. Dhahabi said the Arabs equated fair or white skin with being of slave status.

Wesley Muhammed in Black Arabia quotes the well-known Arabia historian, Jan Retso who says, "the Abbasid revolution in 750 was to a large extent the final revolt of the non-Arab Muslims against the Arab and their taking power. The revolt was dominated by the Iranian agam non-semitic foreigners..." Wesley goes on to quote Ronald Segal who asserts " increasing intermarriage served submerge the original distinctions and increasing numbers of the conquered, having adopted the religion and language of the conquerors, took to ASSUMING THE IDENTITY OF ARABS THEMSELVES." This is also when a lot of the non-Arabs took it upon themselves to make Arabs and Muhammed into people who looked like themselves as well as becoming bigotted toward black skinned people whether Arab or otherwise. That is why the Central Asian Rumi made the comment how do you dare "insult" the family of Muhammed "because of their blackness while there are still pure blooded black skinned Arabs..." which Syrians and Persians/Central Asians weren't of course.

But I guess like they say what goes 'round comes round and it obviously did.

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1) dana you are talking about "pure arabs" vs. "non arabs"
Why is Muhammad described as Adanite, the "arabized arab" not a "pure arab" but part of a foreign convert of Northern lineage? Until the year 650 A.D., Arabic was the native language of the Adanite tribes alone

2) also on your No Mediterranean Race thing,

you may be correct on that, but what is the lineage and ethnicity/race of the people that lived in Greece at the time of Alexander?

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^ Was ancient Greece a mixed society? A rainbow nation?
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quote:
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^ Was ancient Greece a mixed society? A rainbow nation?

well I guess it was either pure black or pure white
none of this sissy rainbow obama type stuff

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^ lol

predictable bitch.

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^lol

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:

Djehuti - are u sure?I really think this is a woman of Central or West African ancestry living outside of Africa who thinks all blacks with narrow noses are somehow not African as her. That is what I have been getting from the posts. She also thinks that North Sudanese are all racists against south Sudanese which doesn't make much sense because North Sudanese to me look much like West Africans.

In other words she may have an inferiority complex like many of the Euronuts on the board who are fearful based on what they have been taught about the Arabs. She is also mad because of how Somalis have shown racism against the Bant as other Africans on this board are.

I forgot she also called Gigantic a "pink arse" or something of that sort so I do think she or he is definitely black.

I am pretty sure that Lioness is the same as the north 'Arab' Sudanese that used to post here. Their writing styles are the same and more importantly, they keep bringing up the SAME exact topics of admixture and the Book of Gates mural.
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Anguish - I don't think is true. I have seen disputes between Djehuti and others on the board and just because one is not "black" or African, that doesn't mean they don't gave a rigght to consider something silly or not. Believe me Djehuti is not at all interested/t in giving up a single thing to Eurasians or Eurasiatics. That might be why he sometimes doesn't agree with you.

Not to be picky but there are very few if any scholars on this board.Some who are degreed in fact seem to have a lot of things mixed up and others who are not have done an awful lot of historical research and have a more comprehensive awareness of many different aspects of African and Afro-Asiatic history than some of the Ph.Ds that I know.

Dana, pay no heed to 'anguish', for he is troll as well. Both he and his boyfriend Argyle love to accuse me of being an anti-black "closet racist". They are likely just psychologically projecting their own inclinations since they themselves are white liberals from the UK who upon stumbling across this forum have posed as 'blacks' ever since. Despite their internet racial role-playing whenever Europe's mixed African ancestry is pointed out, their panties get bunched up really bad. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Leo Minor:

Checkout this link, it is apparent that both populations share a cross border gene pool of African and Asiatic ancestry which is actually not surprising in a Semitic Afro-asiatic context.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/search/label/Ethiopia

LMAO [Big Grin]

If your cite Dienekes, then you are DISMISSED, as all his info is racial garbage.

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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
They are likely just psychologically projecting their own inclinations

The same way you are projecting onto Lioness? [Wink]
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^ Nope, because unlike you I have no neuroses. Now begone from this forum since you have nothing of relevance to offer. I suggest you get your rag and get back to work in the mens' loo along with your boyfriend Argyle. [Wink]
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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:

Thankfully Tariq Berry has posted the writings of Al Baladhuri and Al Dhahabi of 14th Syria which speaks of the Quraysh tribes of Hashem and clans of the Quraysh Banu Zuhra, Jumah, Makhzumi. So we know most importantly what their Canaanite i.e. ancestors looked like. In fact they are described as having black skin. Even before that we are told by Qutaybah and Wah ibn Munabbih what the Kinaniyyah looked like and by distorted Talmud who spoke of them as cursed thieves with large sexual organs.

It is clear the modern tribe of Kun'an of Bisha and Banu Kenanah of todays southern Hejaz and modern Israel are the same black skinned Kinanah that these ancient tribes spoke so often of.
Plus "the black and tall" Dawasir descendant of the "jet black Azd originated these tribes further north which are still known as Qainan and Nadir in th Dawasir area.

What you must understand is that these tribes are still living in their black skins and if you will read you will find that because they were of the noble Arabs they didn't want to blend with the blood of foreign concubines as did so many other tribes.

When I was shown a picture of the modern Qurasyh tribe of the Kenaniyya living in Israel/Palestine I was told that they often complained about being too black. I just assumed that they were descended from slaves brought from Nubia as the Israelis like to say. In truth the blackness of modern Nubians had nothing on the blackness of many of the tribes of Arabia, and I mean nothing.

Everyone should get know Arabic or read Tariq's book and learn how early or original Arabs described themselves and their slaves before they began settling among Syrians, Iraqis and Spaniards.Its really fascinating how the world has been changed upside down - literally from black to white. [Wink]


I should comment here that the broad foreheaded Sabaeans and the broad foreheaded Amharic people were undoubtedly one and the same as shown fro physical anthropological evidence. I guess kind of like the African people who made the sculptures of Old Kingdom Egyptians.

For more descriptions of the members of the Quraysh as well as related tribes read my posts fear of Blackness.

In fact Axumites and Sabaeans were the same people speaking the same dialects and migrating back and forth over the Eritrean (red) Sea for several thousand years.That is why many ofthe same names are found on both sides of the Red Sea.

And Eliyas was indeed Elias, just as Bariq was Baraq, and Aram was Aram and Kenan Canaan.The original Jews came from Peleg who were brethren of the south Arabian Qahtan - all one and the same people.

It is a little known fact that Israelite writings describe people to their immediate south in Midyan as black like Moses' wife etc.

How extensive was mixing with foreigners for them to become much lighter?

By the way, who were those people dancing in those youtube videos?
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Let us be for real. Black is a political term in the US so of course she is not black in my book. The term black in the Arabic however according to early linguists (of several centuries ago) Ibn Mandhur and Ibn Berry meant someone that was literally black in color. The woman above would have been considered "mixed with red", and probably because white was used for very dark skinned people like the Banu Shaiba whose tribe took care of the Kaaba in Mecca below belonging to the Quraysh tribe of Hashem.

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Banu Shaiba descend from the Hashem clan of the Quraysh. He is what would have been called "white" or clear complexioned black man "white" is supposed to have meant a black with a clear complexion with a brownish undertone or one that is light and clear enough that doesn't show any black blotchiness.

"White" did not mean a fair skinned person, but as with Hebrew whitness dealt with luminousity of the complexion "not chromacity" (See Goldenberg, David, The Curse of Ham, p. 93) and see what early Arab linguists said about how the term "white" was used for black men in his book The Unknown Arabs or on his blog savethetruearabs.com. You can buy his book there too.

The Banu Shaiba are derived from a man named Shaiba who was of the Hashemite "famille ou dominait le sang negre" from Etudes sur le Cycles des Omayyades." 1930

That is to say he was from the Banu Hashem family where "black blood" has dominated due to not wanting to mix with foreigners like the Syrian, Iranian and Byzantine people then surrounding them. All sub-clans of the Quraysh until a late period were noted for their blackness. This includes Banu Zuhra, Jumah, Makzumi, as well as the Kenaniyyah clans they derived from.

Muhammed's uncles on both maternal and paternal sides are described as black. Tariq quoted Uncle Saad ibn Waqqas a famous leader, brother of the Prophet's mother. He is described as black and very tall with a flat nose by el Dhahabi. He was of pure Arabian stock.

You will never see a movie on Al Jazair made about the Quraysh in the Middle East as they looked. Believe me.

All members of the family of Muhamed (pbuh)when they are described are described as black in early Arabic writings. Many individuals from various clans of the Quraysh aside from cousins and grandparents of the Prophet are called black-skinned - and understand when one talks about "black" in Arabic you are not necessarily talking about the black of an African American but a literally black person.

Tariq quotes 9th c. Jahiz of Iraq and 14th c. el Dhahabi of Syria and calling an uncle on the other side "huge and black-skinned". And yet today most people would have a big problem with a depiction of Muhammed as a black man although he came from a black tribe descended from other documented black tribes.

Even the poet Rumi made the comment that to Middle Eastern Arabized people in his time - you dare to insult black people when the pure Arabs of the Prophet's family still live when their blood had been tainted by the (Rum).

Black or Adam - was the color of the early Arab or Semite and "shadeed al udmah" jet black and "akhdar" near black (literally green) like many tribes across the modern Sudan extending toward the Atlantic.

The fact that these blacks brought their language northward in various times and that other people came to speak their languages does not modify this truth.

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Modern man of the Banu Kinaniyyah of Jericho in Israel.

The Banu Kinaniyyah founded towns called Jerichos or Yerakh along the southwest coast of Arabia in the Yemen first. Just as the Sulaym or Soleym founded towns named Arwe Sulayim, Salem or Salim in south Arabia before settling north among the "white Syrians" founding Hierosolyma or Yerusalim.

Yes, remember seeing old photos of Hashemite royals and I couldn't help but notice their appearance as light-skinned black people.

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You can even see the traces of black ancestry today.

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What program was that man on BET shown, by the way?

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^ Nope, because unlike you I have no neuroses. Now begone from this forum since you have nothing of relevance to offer.

Unlike you, I feel no need to boost my self-esteem by [endlessly and mindlessly] cutting and pasting pictures and quotes picked up from other posters over the years to look good on an internet forum. How pathetic is that. [Razz] lol

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quote:
Originally posted by dana marniche:

There are many Arab and Arabian tribes with families of different complexions today. Obviously some are more Arab then they other. The Rashaida claim descent from the Banu Abs a tribe which comes from the Qays Ailan or El Nas brother of ElYas.

Of the Abs tribe an early eyewitness said " I see black-skinned men shaking their spears and digging in the earth with their feet. Quoted from El Iqd El Fareed by ibn Rabbihu of the 11th century by Tariq in the Unknown Arabs p. 78.

The Arabs of today however are not necessarily like those of early and ancient times.


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Rashaida Arab girls of the horn

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Rashaida Arab girl of the horn Eritrea

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Rashaida man of southern Arabia

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Rashaida men of Sudan

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Rashaida woman from the Horn

The "black-skinned" people known as Arabs were great takers of concubines and that is how we get the varied appearance of many of the Arab tribes of today. They range from near black like their original ancestors to near white or so called "red people". The same has happened with the Berbers.

^ Wow. In the first two pics, the fair-skinned Rashaida girl and the darker one below her share the exact same features. This reminds me about the phenomenon that Yonis and other pointed out where children born to a Horn African parent and a Eurasian parent always take on the features, mainly color of the Eurasian parent. I'm not sure if you've noticed that, but I have seen my share in real life and many more pictures of it in this forum. As such, it is no surprise that in one or two generations of intermarriage these original black Arabs can end up 'white'!
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Djehuti, she's black?

Doesn't look "Black" or "white" to something in between

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^ because, for you, black is true negro. [Roll Eyes]
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^ By Western standards, YES she is black. Apparently you haven't noticed but 'black' does not necessarily mean actual jet black color, you fool!
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quote:
Originally posted by anguishofbeingaboywhore:

Unlike you, I feel no need to boost my self-esteem by [endlessly and mindlessly] cutting and pasting pictures and quotes picked up from other posters over the years to look good on an internet forum. How pathetic is that. [Razz] lol

LOL Sorry to burst your fantasies, but my self-esteem needs no "boosting" (unlike yours). And neither do I endlessly cut and paste. It's called a QUOTE, my dummy. And I quote a passage to specifically reply to. Like I'm doing right now to your waste of band-space.

Now if you may...

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and get back to work in the mens' station [Wink]

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(((((yawn)))))

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^ Yawn indeed. You must be tired of yanking my d|ck. Or maybe not. That is what your clientele over there in jolly old England, Wales, or whatever must love about you. [Big Grin]
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