After some evasion, you've admitted that Frank Yurco actually did not say that the royal artist that painted the Four Nations Table had made a mistake. Likewise, you've been unable to provide quotes from the other Egyptologists that you claimed supported your theory.
After some evasion, you have admitted that you have not been to Africa.
Now, can you confirm for us whether or not you are black? It's a simple yes/no answer.
I've sent you a pm.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: [qb] @lioness
After some evasion, you've admitted that Frank Yurco actually did not say that the royal artist that painted the Four Nations Table had made a mistake.
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: @lioness
to be more accurate Yurco did not say the paintings were done in error
Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I'm assuming that the same applies to your statement that other Egyptologists regard the depictions as a mistake. Am I correct? I'm anticipating that you won't be able to produce any quotes from any Egyptologists contesting whether the image of the Black-skinned Egyptian was done in error.
claus3600. You initially asked those with access to the book did Yurco dispute the rendition as an error and I've already informed you that he did so what's the problem here? You are getting no where actually and only allow lioness to lead you down the path of ignorance.
So let's try this again, otherwise, buy the book! Chasing lioness is like chasing your tail.
From "Egypt in Africa", pg 110, Frank Yurco writes:
"Accordingly, all claims based upon the 1913 pastiche, that demonstrably is not at all like the wall of Ramses III's tomb, and which posits that Egyptians and Kushites were shown alike with dark complexions and similar costumes, rests upon a nineteenth to early twentieth century copy that is not correct!"
^Just because Yurco SAID he was there to confirm the error doesn't mean that he was, which is why proof is warranted. Ampim presented proof. The fact that Yurco DID claim that it was an error is a FACT however, and you are wasting time arguing with lioness about it who never even read the book.
Indeed, are you here to actually learn or just bait trolls?
^^Pay special attention to the last sentence.
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You've missed the import of what I've been saying.
What Lioness has admitted, and what I suspected, was that Yurco DID NOT say that the royal artist made a mistake in painting the Egyptian with black skin. In the quote that you've highlighted above, he refers to the copy, NOT the tomb painting itself.
Is that clear enough for you?
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^Yes, what Yurco was arguing however, was that the actual tomb was no different than Seti's. Anyways, I admit the oversight. Still don't see the point.
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What's with this "royal artist" thing? An Ampim term implying infallability.
The artists were not a part of royalty.
They were villagers employed to craft the tombs in the Valley of the Kings.
Like anybody, royal or not, they could and did make mistakes whether or not the nearly identical Egyptians & Nehesu and the seemingly out of order depicted Tjemehu & Aamu of KV11 was one or not.
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After some evasion, you've admitted that Frank Yurco actually did not say that the royal artist that painted the Four Nations Table had made a mistake. Likewise, you've been unable to provide quotes from the other Egyptologists that you claimed supported your theory.
After some evasion, you have admitted that you have not been to Africa.
Now, can you confirm for us whether or not you are black? It's a simple yes/no answer.
I've sent you a pm.
Claude, there is a reason why we call her LYINASS. Posts: 26302 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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I think we know that they weren't members of the royal family...in Britain, 'royal artist' would signify someone who painted for the royal family and not imply familial connection.
Regardless of whether they made mistakes, I asked Lioness why Yurco didn't notice the mistake and she/he said that he did. When I pressed her for a quote from Yurco she/he was evasive and then eventually admitted that Yurco hadn't said that.
She then changed her approach saying that Yurco possibly didn't see the tomb. I then asked why Hornung, another prominent egyptologist, who undoubtedly did see the tomb, didn't register it as a mistake, choosing instead the higher risk strategy of manipulation. She hasn't responded.
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^^^^ The Lyin-ass used to be known as Spinzelli as it will try to use spin tactics to squirm away when its cornered...Looks like Spinzelli has become dizzy spinning its own lies..
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600:
@tukuler
What's with this "royal artist" thing?
I think we know that they weren't members of the royal family...in Britain, 'royal artist' would signify someone who painted for the royal family and not imply familial connection.
Regardless of whether they made mistakes, I asked Lioness why Yurco didn't notice the mistake and she/he said that he did. When I pressed her for a quote from Yurco she/he was evasive and then eventually admitted that Yurco hadn't said that.
She then changed her approach saying that Yurco possibly didn't see the tomb. I then asked why Hornung, another prominent egyptologist, who undoubtedly did see the tomb, didn't register it as a mistake, choosing instead the higher risk strategy of manipulation. She hasn't responded.
Sane dialog with Lioness is as chasing a mirage.
The closer you get the less the detail until poof all she pretense at substance evaporates.
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^ What I don't understand is why you guys have put up with her bullsh1t for so long? The purpose of this board, I thought, was to further discussion and exchange ideas on Ancient Egypt and other North African pre-colonial civilizations. Instead topics get muddied by twats like lioness and userman!
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Ah lioness, you're back now. So have you had time to consider a response, you know, on whether or not you're black?
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: Ah lioness, you're back now. So have you had time to consider a response, you know, on whether or not you're black?
the question is racist
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^ LOL You waste your time with her Clause. What Takruri says about her is true. Why else do people call her lyinass. Some of the comments she has made in the past indicate strongly that not only is she NOT black but anti-African. Hell, the twit lies so much, her presumed gender is also questionable. LOL
quote:Originally posted by claus3600: ^ What I don't understand is why you guys have put up with her bullsh1t for so long? The purpose of this board, I thought, was to further discussion and exchange ideas on Ancient Egypt and other North African pre-colonial civilizations. Instead topics get muddied by twats like lioness and userman!
It is the job of the moderators to ban trolls. Usedman for example has been banned several times only to come back under new IP addresses and monikers. As for lyinass, her trolling tactics are too passive-aggressive and not as overt for her to be banned. That's the way the cookie crumbles here in ol' Egyptsearch. Posts: 26302 | From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: Ah lioness, you're back now. So have you had time to consider a response, you know, on whether or not you're black?
the question is racist
Okay - I see - she/he is definitely not black - as a matter of fact her last comment has European American written all over it. That what so-called white people in America say when they think there is some form of reverse racism going on. In America as black folks we don't use that form of jargon ... so yeah - white it is.
I say this based on the tone of her writing - you can tell by the usage of her sentence structure ...
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quote:Originally posted by claus3600: Ah lioness, you're back now. So have you had time to consider a response, you know, on whether or not you're black?
the question is racist
No - Neanderwoman is not black. I am so embarassed that it took me so long to figure this out.
She's been using black face to trick us all. I also see now how she cowers now before the rocks are to be thrown. lol! Posts: 4226 | From: New Jersey, USA | Registered: Mar 2007
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