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Cacausoids were always in Africa. ...Europeans entered Africa relatively recently.

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I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


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and..?

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xyyman why are you posting people not of Africa?

I am trying to give people a chance to respond to your theory on African Caucasoids, people with the original hair type, Also you got a guy posted with lips thinner than most Caucasians, virtually no lips at all.
We need to stay on topic, Africana Caucasians with chimp-straight type hair
Relax, no need to get nervous about your theory. Let's wait and see what other people say first

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^Try to fight your own battles.


I have asked you several times to explain in anthropological term the evolutionary physical transition from a African to a Caucasian. You haven't answered up till now. But you always demand answers from anyone else, derictly.


I have also have asked multiple times, why not all Africans have similar thigh coiled hair like the San. Up till now I have only received nonsense babble. No valid argument. So I am still waiting.



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Physical variations in any given trait tend to occur gradually rather than abruptly over geographic areas. And because physical traits are inherited independently of one another, knowing the range of one trait does not predict the presence of others. For example, skin color varies largely from light in the temperate areas in the north to dark in the tropical areas in the south; its intensity is not related to nose shape or hair texture. Dark skin may be associated with frizzy or kinky hair or curly or wavy or straight hair, all of which are found among different indigenous peoples in tropical regions. These facts render any attempt to establish lines of division among biological populations both arbitrary and subjective.

--American Anthropological Association

http://www.aaanet.org/stmts/racepp.htm

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Southeast and south Asian populations are also often thought to be derived from the admixture of various combinations of western Eurasians (‘Caucasoids’), east Asians and Australasians.
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These findings, coupled with the recently discovered presence of haplogroup U in Ethiopia [11], support a scenario in which a northeast African population dispersed out of Africa into India, presumably through the Arabian peninsula, before 50,000 years ago (Figure 2). Other migrations into India also occurred, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.
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Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.

~Todd R. Disotell.Human evolution: The southern route to AsiaVolume 9, Issue 24, 30 December 1999, Pages R925–R928


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European connection? Some features, such as the molars, of these 40,000-year- old specimens from Romania resemble those of earlier North African hominins.
Was North Africa The Launch Pad For Modern Human Migrations www.springer.com.Aterian


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Abstract The Aterian fossil hominins represent one of the most abundant series of human remains associated with Middle Stone Age/Middle Paleolithic assemblages in Africa.


The discovery will help better define northern Africa's possible role in first populating southern Europe.



The makers of these assemblages can therefore be seen as (1) a
group of Homo sapiens predating and/or contemporary to
the out-of-Africa exodus of the species, and (2) geographically one of the (if not the) closest from the main gate to Eurasia at the northeastern corner of the African continent.

Although Moroccan specimens have been discovered far
away from this area, they may provide us with one of the
best proxies of the African groups that expanded into Eurasia[...]

--J.-J. Hublin, Dental Evidence from the Aterian Human Populations of Morocco
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~bioanth/tanya_smith/pdf/Hublin_et_al_2012.pdf


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At about 40,000 years ago, however, Homo sapiens, in the form of the Cro-Magnons, began trickling into Europe, probably from an initially African place of origin.

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It was brought with them by the Cro-Magnons, whose new qualities had emerged elsewhere. Probably this was in Africa, for it is from this continent that we have not just the first suggestions of the emergence of modern anatomical structure, but of modern behaviors as well.

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The most remarkable early evidence of symbolic activity in Africa comes in the form of the recent find of engraved ochre plaques, such as this one, from Blombos Cave on the southern coast of Africa (Fig. 10). This is an unequivocally symbolic object, even if we cannot directly discern the significance of the geometric design that the plaque bears; and it is dated to around 70,000 years ago, over 30,000 years before anything equivalent is found in Europe.

To evidence such as this can be added suggestions of a symbolic organization of space at the site of Klasies River Mouth (Fig. 11), also near the southern tip of Africa, at over 100,000 years ago. Pierced shells, with the strong implication of stringing for body ornamentation, are known from Porc-Epic Cave in Ethiopia at around 70,000 years ago. Bone tools of the kind introduced much later to Europe by the Cro-Magnons, are found at the Congolese site of Katanda, dated to perhaps 80,000 years ago. Blade tool industries, again formerly associated principally with the Cro-Magnons, are found at least sporadically at sites in Africa that date to as much as a quarter of a million years ago. Also in the economic/technological realm, such activities as flint-mining, pigment-processing and long-distance trade in useful materials are documented in Africa up to about 100,000 years ago. These and other early African innovations are reviewed by McBrearty and Brooks (2000).

http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listings/2002/~/media/Files/Exhibitions/2002/AfricaLectureTranscript.ashx
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Caucasians came/ come from the Caucasus mountains.


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1807, from Caucasus Mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas; applied to the "white" race 1795 (in Ger.) by Ger. anthropologist Johann Blumenbach, because their supposed ancestral homeland lay there; since abandoned as a historical/anthropological term. Lit. meaning "resident or native of the Caucasus" is from 1843.



The mountain range name is from Gk. kaukhasis, said by Pliny ("Natural History," book six, chap. XVII) to be from a Scythian word similar to kroy-khasis, lit. "(the mountain) ice-shining, white with snow." But possibly from a Pelasgian root *kau- meaning "mountain."


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quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^Try to fight your own battles.


I have asked you several times to explain in anthropological term the evolutionary physical transition from a African to a Caucasian. You haven't answered up till now. But you always demand answers from anyone else, derictly.


Caucasians are Africans, they only migrated to Europe recently so your question doesn't make sense.

If you look at the oldest bones in the world they have neither skin nor hair, one can only speculate.

One might ask how did the kinky haired African Negro evolve from the
ape haired, hairy bodied African Caucasian?

I don't know, you have me stumped

quote:
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[QB] Caucasians came/ come from the Caucasus mountains.



this is the obsolete theory that xyyman has debunked

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

Cacausoids were always in Africa



xyyman is an original thinker with new theories of his own , you can only parrot what others say.

If somebody has a new theory, you have no ability to analzye it.
What you do instead is post other people's theories that everybody already knows about

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^Try to fight your own battles.


I have asked you several times to explain in anthropological term the evolutionary physical transition from a African to a Caucasian. You haven't answered up till now. But you always demand answers from anyone else, derictly.


Caucasians are Africans, they only migrated to Europe recently so your question doesn't make sense.

If you look at the oldest bones in the world they have neither skin nor hair, one can only speculate.

One might ask how did the kinky haired African Negro evolve from the ape haired, hairy bodied African Caucasian?

I don't know, you have me stumped

As usually there is no valid argument mere nonsense babble.

How pitiful.


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Southeast and south Asian populations are also often thought to be derived from the admixture of various combinations of western Eurasians (‘Caucasoids’), east Asians and Australasians.
...

These findings, coupled with the recently discovered presence of haplogroup U in Ethiopia [11], support a scenario in which a northeast African population dispersed out of Africa into India, presumably through the Arabian peninsula, before 50,000 years ago (Figure 2). Other migrations into India also occurred, but rarely from western Eurasian populations.
...

Thus, the ‘caucasoid’ features of south Asians may best be considered ‘pre-caucasoid’— that is, part of a diverse north or north-east African gene pool that yielded separate origins for western Eurasian and southern Asian populations over 50,000 years ago.

--Todd R. Disotell.

Human evolution: The southern route to Asia

Volume 9, Issue 24, 30 December 1999, Pages R925–R928

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
^Try to fight your own battles.


I have asked you several times to explain in anthropological term the evolutionary physical transition from a African to a Caucasian. You haven't answered up till now. But you always demand answers from anyone else, derictly.


Caucasians are Africans, they only migrated to Europe recently so your question doesn't make sense.

If you look at the oldest bones in the world they have neither skin nor hair, one can only speculate.

One might ask how did the kinky haired African Negro evolve from the
ape haired, hairy bodied African Caucasian?

I don't know, you have me stumped

quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
[QB] Caucasians came/ come from the Caucasus mountains.



this is the obsolete theory that xyyman has debunked

quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

Cacausoids were always in Africa



xyyman is an original thinker with new theories of his own , you can only parrot what others say.

If somebody has a new theory, you have no ability to analzye it.
What you do instead is post other people's theories that everybody already knows about

[Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin] At the hiding behind xyyman.


Explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle. [Embarrassed]


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Lioness, you are about the get sandwiched!

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TOPIC, xyyman's theory:

I won't deal with spammers trying to derail the thread by bringing up all sorts of other stuff from other threads, trying to get me to answer questions from other threads as a spam excuse
emotional spam reaction to topics he doesn't like
When somebody has to do that I win automatically


The statements are by xyyman>

He gets credit for the theory


quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

Cacausoids were always in Africa. ...Europeans entered Africa relatively recently.

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


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I don't know xyyman's further detail on this, you will have to ask him

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
TOPIC, xyyman's theory:

I won't deal with spammers trying to derail the thread by bringing up all sorts of other stuff from other threads, trying to get me to answer questions from other threads as a spam excuse
emotional spam reaction to topics he doesn't like
When somebody has to do that I win automatically


The statements are by xyyman>

He gets credit for the theory


quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

Cacausoids were always in Africa. ...Europeans entered Africa relatively recently.

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


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I don't know xyyman's further detail on this, you will have to ask him

Funny how this dumb idiot now claims the elaboration on this theory, has become spamming the thread. While it's based on actual anthropological findings.


Simply because you have no explanation, you now hide behind xxyMan. You can not even tell why you give "supposed" credit for "his theory". You simply copy/past his text. This is what we call spamming.


This is also why you can not explain why a old population such as the San has very tight coiled kinky hair. While other populations from different terrains in Africa have less tight kinky hair, to even loose type of hair texture.



The original coined term and definition for caucasian was posted by me, as well as the biological definition, these two differ. Which puts you in a bad position, lyin'ass. Since these quasi-traits can be found in several African populations, even in the sub-Sahara. [Big Grin]




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Some of us understand. Problem is we equate Caucasoid = European. These Caucasoid traits has always been in Africa. There is absolutely no genetic evidence of Europeans back-migrating into Africa. These Caucasoid Tribes eg Siwa, Gulla, Hausa, Maasia are pure Africans.

Quote: "Explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle."

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As I said....call them what they correctly are. EUROPEANS!!! Caucasoid is a "label". IF you really undertand this stuff ......Don't be afraid of it.

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quote:
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Some of us understand. Problem is we equate Caucasoid = European. These Caucasoid traits has always been in Africa. There is absolutely no genetic evidence of Europeans back-migrating into Africa. These Caucasoid Tribes eg Siwa, Gulla, Hausa, Maasia are pure Africans.

Quote: "Explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle."

Cosigned, hence why I had "stereotype" between quotation marks.


The equation was done by social construction. Making Europeans into caucasoids, because of certain biological aspects. And going from a stereotype African to a stereotype European, needs a transition. In one way or another.

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Caucasoid label is a straw man. It doesn't exist. Yet some of you argue against it. It was created by Europeans .... To make them feel important. It is used by modern racialist to steal other people's history and civilizations. Eg labeling AEians Caucasoids. although these black people have no genetic, cultural, historical, linguistic connection with European. especially Western Europeans. Typical White man strategy. "Let them fight over a word". It is a smoke screen. Very little originated in Europe !!! Not even the blond hair or blue eyes. Anyone with a scientific brain understands this ......now
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My point? Black Persians did exist. Most likely PN2 or J1. Sergi comes to mind.

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and..?

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What led me to this point? About 5 years ago I read about and saw indigenous Taiwanese!!!! I almost fell off my chair. I always visualized indigenous Taiwanese as "Mongoloids". I was shocked to see they were "Negroids".

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So yes. Kinky hair is a recent adaptation. They same goes for pockets of kinky haired people found throughout Asia ..... And Africa.

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quote:
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So yes. Kinky hair is a recent adaptation. They same goes for pockets of kinky haired people found throughout Asia ..... And Africa.

Does this mean that the San had bone straight hair or loose hair texture during the Paleolithic time frame?
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Don't know but I can make an educated guess.
Don't know their migration pattern but their lineage can be found in Ethiopia AND the Nile region of Sudan.
Point? These NiloSaharans and Ethiopians some with straightish hair is of the same ancestoral line as San.

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Note
Anderman Islanders vs Koreans. Australian aborigene etc The Lunatic had a great thread on hair . Maybe Lioness can dig it up.

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Lyinass is a bully plain and simple. She knows that Xyyman is scientifically illiterate and makes ignorant and ridiculous claims. So she likes to "challenge" these claims as if there is any challenge to them. Meanwhile as TrollKillah' points out, the lyinass herself is a hypocrite because she too makes ridiculous claims that are continuously debunked. Yet you don't see anyone making threads to bait and debunk her! Perhaps that should change. [Embarrassed]
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quote:
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Xyyman is scientifically illiterate and makes ignorant and ridiculous claims

Troll Patrol do you agree with this?
I thought xyyman was part of the base. Are you going to let the brother get shytted on like that?


I think the idea that the Caucasians who are now in Europe could have originated in North Africa and the idea that they originated in the Caucus could be wrong
I wouldn't say xyyman's theory is impossible.
It's an interesting theory.
Then you have the common ancestor, ape type, covered in straight hair-maybe

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Djehuti:
Lyinass is a bully plain and simple.

Troll Patrol do you agree with this?
I thought xyyman was part of the base. Are you going to let the brother get shytted on like that?


I think the idea that the Caucasians who are now in Europe could have originated in North Africa and the idea that they originated in the Caucus could be wrong
I wouldn't say xyyman's theory is impossible.
It's an interesting theory.
Then you have the common ancestor, ape type, covered in straight hair-maybe

Explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle. [Embarrassed]


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Mankind in Africa has and had no hairy body, as it is and was not needed, melanin is protective against UV-radiation. Instead of hair on the body, which is protective against extreme cold. Like in Eurasia. (See isotopic studies.) Maybe it deals with vitamin D. This is just my guess.


If the bodies of homo sapiens were (extensive) hairy, they would have found traces of hair, I guess. At the sites of these oldest human remains. The people who comprise with Hg A and B.


And depending on where tribes resided, it's dependable of their physical appearance, facial features.


The tribes at the site of Kibish look the pic beneath, and this is where the oldest remains were found. It's the Southeast of Ethiopia, near the so called border of Northern Kenya and guess what: South Sudan!




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Kibish


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Interesting is however, that there at the site of Kibish you will find within several tribes, people with several facial features. Small noses, wide noses, thin lips, full lips etc....in all kinds of variety. Yet, these people belong to the oldests groups amoungst mankind.


This a South Sudanese model.


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Recent dating evidence re-establishes the Kibish fossils found in Ethiopia as the oldest modern human fossils known, at about 195,000 years.

The Kibish (Omo) fossils were found in 1967 in the Kibish region near the Omo River in Ethiopia. A partial skull and skeleton (Omo 1) and a skull lacking its face (Omo 2) were discovered in separate localities and dating techniques available at the time suggested they might be about 130,000 years old.

Herto skulls

In 2003 two partial and one nearly complete modern human skulls were found in Herto, Ethiopia, and were dated at about 160,000 years old. They were hailed as the oldest relatively complete and well-dated finds of our species Homo sapiens.

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A reconstruction of Homo sapiens skull Omo 1 from Kibish, Kenya, re-dated to 196,000 years old, the oldest modern human specimen

More info on the Kibish

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Troll Patrol why are toy derailing the thread? The topic is Caucasians and you are posting black people

You're on a big ego trip now. xyyman came up with the theory. The details should be how he explains them. Now you jump in and try to own the theory and presnt it your way. It's jealousy.
xyyman needs support right now Djehuti just bashed him.
You need to let him lead the way.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
Troll Patrol why are toy derailing the thread? The topic is Caucasians and you are posting black people

You are a delusional simplemind, we are speaking of two subjects, the biological origin of caucasoid treats and straight vs kinky hair origin, with the possibility it arose amongst Africans. (See isotopic studies)


In order to understand this, we need to assess where whom came from during what time, place and space. We now have a stablished that quasi-caucasoid treats are amongst sub-Saharan populations, who have very little to do with Eurasians or admixture for that matter. We also have established the most likely possible root of mankind, and the conditions they lived in.




Explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle. [Embarrassed]


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I just expalined it in the Pompeii thread idiot

I won't talk about Terentius Neo here.

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
I just expalined it in the Pompeii thread idiot

I won't talk about Terentius Neo here.

I looked it up, and you haven't answered the question.


It was merely a idiotic rant.


No validation.


So, again:


(How do you go from a stereotype African to a stereotype Europeans, without a transition?)


In other words, how did the European come in to existence, did they popup out of thin air?


So, explain how one can go from a stereotype "negro" to a stereotype "caucasoid" without having traits by Terentius Neo, somewhere in the middle. [Embarrassed]


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DJ. Still needs to prove

1. He is not a double crossing Hindu
2. He is not a plant and can be trusted
3. More importantly, I am wrong!!

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I guess I have to be the odd man, but why do we continue to call features "caucasoid", when it didn't originate in the caucas?

All those terms like "negroid, mongoloid, etc" are old and incorrect.

Why not just described the feature as narrow or broad so on and so forth?
By using that term, it invites confusion with people who accept that it means someone who is "European" or "Eurasian".

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To those who don't get it. I am poking fun at the label. It is meaningless and obsolete. It is a tool/label used by racialist to steal other people's culture and history. It is used by modern Europeans to include themselves. Understand that. Reprogram yourself and the meaning of the word.

Point? These features, yes, originated in Africa.

But I still don't trust DJ. I believe he is a sneaky Hindu.

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Any literate person who understand the formation of AE and these other civilizations will understand that modern Europeans have absolutely no!!! Connection. The only connection maybe through Greece by way of Greece being colonized by Africans bringing their Neolithic technology as demonstrated by Sergio, Evans, Smith and others. Now aDNA is supporting this hypothesi.

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:
To those who don't get it. I am poking fun at the label. It is meaningless and obsolete. It is a tool/label used by racialist to steal other people's culture and history. It is used by modern Europeans to include themselves. Understand that. Reprogram yourself and the meaning of the word.

Point? These features, yes, originated in Africa.

But I still don't trust DJ. I believe he is a sneaky Hindu.

My bad.
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quote:
Originally posted by HidayaAkade:
I guess I have to be the odd man, but why do we continue to call features "caucasoid", when it didn't originate in the caucas?

All those terms like "negroid, mongoloid, etc" are old and incorrect.

Why not just described the feature as narrow or broad so on and so forth?
By using that term, it invites confusion with people who accept that it means someone who is "European" or "Eurasian".

quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.



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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

To those who don't get it. I am poking fun at the label. It is meaningless and obsolete. It is a tool/label used by racialist to steal other people's culture and history. It is used by modern Europeans to include themselves. Understand that. Reprogram yourself and the meaning of the word.

Point? These features, yes, originated in Africa.

But I still don't trust DJ. I believe he is a sneaky Hindu.

Frankly I don't care what you believe or whom you trust. I still have no idea what makes you think I'm "sneaky" or even a "Hindu"! LOL

You are obviously a confused man. You even have a bad tendency to misinterpret studies and come to WRONG conclusions about what they actually say due to scientific illiteracy while then saying you don't trust the white men who created those studies in the place.

But speaking of "sneaky".

It's obvious this whole thread is nothing more than a strawman the lyinass created to attack 'the base'. She seems to think that if Xyyman is part of 'the base' even though nothing is given of his membership, then she can attack it. As if to say Xyyman is the weak chink in the armor. LMAO [Big Grin]

All I gotta say is she is wasting her time. How many times has she been debunked by the very 'base'. [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by HidayaAkade:
I guess I have to be the odd man, but why do we continue to call features "caucasoid", when it didn't originate in the caucas?

All those terms like "negroid, mongoloid, etc" are old and incorrect.

Why not just described the feature as narrow or broad so on and so forth?
By using that term, it invites confusion with people who accept that it means someone who is "European" or "Eurasian".

quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.



Funny how you copy my post, and mislead people by the actual meaning and intention. Not only do you lie a lot, but you're wicked as well.


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008800;p=1#000013

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quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by HidayaAkade:
I guess I have to be the odd man, but why do we continue to call features "caucasoid", when it didn't originate in the caucas?

All those terms like "negroid, mongoloid, etc" are old and incorrect.

Why not just described the feature as narrow or broad so on and so forth?
By using that term, it invites confusion with people who accept that it means someone who is "European" or "Eurasian".

quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.



Funny how you copy my post, and mislead people by the actual meaning and intention. Not only do you lie a lot, but you're wicked as well.
Are you retracting the statement or will you explain to the people what is anatomically impossible?

You seem afraid to say what is "anatomically impossible"

are you hidiing again behind the copy and paste?

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by HidayaAkade:
I guess I have to be the odd man, but why do we continue to call features "caucasoid", when it didn't originate in the caucas?

All those terms like "negroid, mongoloid, etc" are old and incorrect.

Why not just described the feature as narrow or broad so on and so forth?
By using that term, it invites confusion with people who accept that it means someone who is "European" or "Eurasian".

quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.



Funny how you copy my post, and mislead people by the actual meaning and intention. Not only do you lie a lot, but you're wicked as well.
Are you retracting the statement or will you explain to the people what is anatomically impossible?

You seem afraid to say what is "anatomically impossible"

are you hidiing again behind the copy and paste?

You are so dumb, you've debunked yourself in that very same thread, which I will link again.


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008800;p=1#000016



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People can read for themselves what kind of hideous lying person you are. You are so pathetic you'll copy/ paste a text. And lie about me that it was written with different intention and motif. You've been caught a lot of times doing this to others as well. But I will embarrass you in front of everybody. And show them what you truly are.


It has nothing to do with they way you've cited it in as a response to HidayaAkade. As I have made my point elaborately clear in this thread.


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008803;p=1#000007

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quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.


as expected Troll patrol hides from his own statements.
Many people have noticed his lack of clarity, he parrots other people to try to make up for it but quotes cannot really replace dialog

see this:

it "is anatomically impossible" for _______________________

______________________________________^^^^^

he's a coward. He doens't have the balls wo say what is anatomically impossible. He can't quote it form another thread because in the other thared he also didn't say waht is anatomically impossible, he cut the sentence with a period (.)
Bring me some posters who brave enough to make clear statements of opinion and not hide behind long mutiple quotes of Europeans


thanks. lioness

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by Trollkillah # Ish Gebor:


It went up to a point, I had to explain to you that it is anatomically impossible.


as expected Troll patrol hides from his own statements.
Many people have noticed his lack of clarity, he parrots other people to try to make up for it but quotes cannot really replace dialog

see this:

it "is anatomically impossible" for _______________________

______________________________________^^^^^

he's a coward. He doens't have the balls wo say what is anatomically impossible. He can't quote it form another thread because in the other thared he also didn't say waht is anatomically impossible, he cut the sentence with a period (.)
Bring me some posters who brave enough to make clear statements of opinion and not hide behind long mutiple quotes of Europeans


thanks. lioness

http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008800;p=1#000016


Look, dumbo, several times you've posted a poster-text saying: "you are a fucking asshole". While such thing is anatomically impossible. It's merely a stupid rant, nonsense and unscientific.


And again, what you've quoted has nothing to do with a response to HidayaAkade. You've just made that up.


But this happens when folks like yourself with a low IQ are trying to get involved into science.


http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=008800;p=1#000017


You've lost the battle in this thread big time. So all that is left for you here now is trollin'.

In the meanwhile you still have not explained how we get from a stereotype African to a stereotype European, without having a intermediate look like Terentius Neo.


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It takes like three or for posts for clarification with this guy, waste of time

Naturally if the discussion was about physical transitions and a joke is thrown in on physicality it could easily get confused.

The following simple answer was all that was necessary

" it is anatomically impossible that someone is a fvcking asshole"

I think the problem is Troll Patrol has some religious thing about not posting curses.

Any way I never said the person was physically an asshole.

It's mentally, enough with this TP Troll

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
It takes like three or for posts for clarification with this guy, waste of time

Naturally if the discussion was about physical transitions and a joke is thrown in on physicality it could easily get confused.

The following simple answer was all that was necessary

" it is anatomically impossible that someone is a fvcking asshole"

I think the problem is Troll Patrol has some religious thing about not posting curses.

Any way I never said the person was physically an asshole.

It's mentally, enough with this TP Troll

I did not need a elaborated explanation, to people with intelligence. But since you are slow minded and your IQ is like that of the backside of a hog, it took a lot of effort and pain to make it clear to you. This is how stupid you actually are. By the laughable rubbish you've been posting.


Sad, simply sad.


In the meanwhile you still have not explained how we get from a stereotype African to a stereotype European, without having a intermediate look like Terentius Neo.


But all you do now is type more crap...since you've lost this thread big time. Many posts ago. Hilarious! [Big Grin]

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quote:
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I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


Do straight haired people descend from an earlier type of people than kinky haired people?

That is opposite to what most scientists believe.
However if you look at the earliest human remains the bones are bare. There is no telling for sure what skin or hair type they had.

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What scientist? What did they "say" about the hair of early man?
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


There is no telling for sure what skin or hair type they had.

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quote:
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What scientist? What did they "say" about the hair of early man?
quote:
Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:

I maintain that kinky hair is a recent adaptation


There is no telling for sure what skin or hair type they had.

I'm saying they can't say anything because the oldest humans remains are bare bones and have no indication of hair type or skin color.
Most scientists of today however assume that these earliest humans have the same hair type as predominant modern human hair types of the same region, for example in Kenya.
Thus reconstructions of early hominids is highly speculative

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Hair type is speculation for early man thus far by Scientist.

I am speculating that kinky hair is recent. Why? In the Old world including Asia. People of the same/similar lineage have both kinky/wavy hair and straightish hair. Not only in Africa. You need to look at things holistically and not through the eyes of a Eurocentrist ...or even dogmatic Afrocentrist.

Early man was definitely "black". You do understand that black is also a subjective term. Anyone who read enough will understand this stuff. Norton speculated on "how black" was early man. Kittles agreed with her in that landmark paper of 2009/10?

If you read ...and understood Nortons PhD thesis you will grasp that idea. The thesis is freely available on the web.

Read enough of Tishkoff and you will also understand that she also has reservation of the location and process of pigmentation of early man. (not I said the PIGMENTATION process not depigmentation).

That is why Guido Barbujani said we are ALL Africans and modern Europeans are a sub-set of Africans.

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Dont get it??!!

Black Africans, Black Persians, Black Taiwanese, Black Philipenos, Black Dravidians, Black Australians, Black Harrapan....and light/brown Tunisians. I hope you follow. This is how it was prior to 1500AD.

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quote:
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Dont get it??!!

Black Africans, Black Persians, Black Taiwanese, Black Philipenos, Black Dravidians, Black Australians, Black Harrapan....and light/brown Tunisians. I hope you follow. This is how it was prior to 1500AD.

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1) what is the minimum block number for being black?

2) what is the maximum number for being white?

3) why are central South Americans on the same latitude of Africans, same relation to the equator, not as dark as the Africans on that latitude (according to this map) ?

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As usual with you. you miss the nuances. I said old world including Asia. I deliberating left out the New World(the Americas).
Because to the laymen it will look like the pattern is NOT followed. But if you look carefully...it is followed!!! Central America and areas around the equator IS darker!! Not enough time for "selective sweep" to occur? But the pattern is already established.

Oh!! Blocks??? White is also subjective...just as black.

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