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The migration map was kinda weak. It showed a 68K mile migration from the east end of Nigeria to the west end of Nigeria from 700 to 1500AD. And a 150K Northwest migration from Sweden to Finland/Russia from 700 AD to 1300 AD.
I hope its updated to go back further.
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do you have Bantu ethnic origins Fourty2Tribes? Balanta are from Atlantic West Africa aren't they?
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Yes Balanta are of Guineau-Bissau. Guineau-Bissau was my highest two STR African matches. I assumed Balanta by process of elimination. The other Guineau-Bissau tribes were further down and there are African American Balantas.
Ged Match and Dnatribe's STRs are heavier in the west coast of Africa. My Yoruba STRs were 0. My Yoruba SNPs highest.
My Dnatribes SNPs are more inland
Tribes SNPs Africa Great Lakes 29.2% West African 17% Central African 14.1% Northwest European 11.2% Balto - North Slavic 5.4% Basque 5.4% Madagascar 4.2% Sephardic Jewish 3.9% Ashkenazi Jewish 2% Balkan 1.7% Pakistani 1.6% Bantu South African 1.4% Italian Greek 1.1% Filipino 1% North African 1%
1 African American Diaspora 2 Barbados Diaspora 3 Yoruba Nigeria Africa 4 Haiti Diaspora 5 Jamaica Diaspora 6 Yembe Africa 7 Luhya Kenya Africa 8 Bantu Kenya Africa 9 African Qatar Diaspora 10 Herero Namibia Africa 11 Hausa Nigeria Africa 12 Kaba Chad Africa 13 Brong Africa 14 Bamoun Cameroon Africa 15 Mandenka Senegal Africa 16 Igbo Nigeria Africa 17 Dominican Republic Diaspora 18 Mada Cameroon Africa 19 Bantu South Africa Africa 20 Tanzania Africa
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ElMaestro didn't say why GPS wasn't so hot.
quote:Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes: The migration map was kinda weak. It showed a 68K mile migration from the east end of Nigeria to the west end of Nigeria from 700 to 1500AD. And a 150K Northwest migration from Sweden to Finland/Russia from 700 AD to 1300 AD.
I hope its updated to go back further.
Well, the migration is the key reason for GPS, especially if you're already tested.
Even though the inventors do caveat GPS's weaknesses I doubt 42Tribes and Xyyman (Yankee diasporan Africans?) both have Atlantic and Malagasy as their two dominant strains.
The Balanta are Atlantic speakers. Old Mali histories say Balante were on the coast when Old Mali empire expanded over what's now Guinea-Bissau back in the 1100's.
Some Balante were incorporated into the local ruled extension of Old Mali setup by Tiramaghan Traore, a retired general formerly under Sundiata. But most Balante kept fiercely independent. They had no kingdom as such, preferring de-centralized village society. Each Balante village king's power was liimited by his council. Nor did kings collect taxes, they exacted labor.
Balante used wooden statuary icons in their worship. Deceased were embalmed and a shrine held a small stone statue of them for yearly memorial services.
From the late 1500's Bijago delivered Balante and other South Rivers peoples to the Portuguese. Not that ailing Mali and the fresher Kaabu kingdom didn't do the same. Balante were among the first casualties of the Hell Across (Maafa).
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Certainly not Madagascar...that I know of. The minor British element is expected(1800's). The west African Senegal component is a given although I was expecting further South like Ghana or Nigeria.
Maybe the Malagasy component is that Ghost population that ALL Diasporan(and/West African) carry tied to the first OOA. Keeping in mind Malagasy(to the south) carry "asian" elements also.
It will be interesting to see if the Software has all Africans carry Malagasy.
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Hmm, so have you read Brucato's Coromos study?
ElMaestro linked its K=26 ADMIXTURE plot a couple of weeks ago
Unlike most such plots his shows CEU is admixed with 'sub-Saharan African.' I see 3-5% Inner African admixture from over four different sources.
I don't think it's noise but why don't you and elMaestro double check me? Thanks.
@Forty2Tribes Anytime man, my pleasure. Happy Balante Homecoming trip.
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The Family "CEU" have Americans, so while not noise, the African signatures are barely significant. I'm pretty sure that the ONLY way we'll see a European/SSA overlap non indicative of relatively recent geneflow is if we sequence west African aDNA from a population with absolutely no Eurasian affinity. At that point Eurasian populations, particularly Europe and to a lesser extent the near east will be lit with SSA signatures.
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I will draw up mine nice and neat but our numbers are a little off. I had a few more African although we both have more African than Eurasian. 12 vs 10.
But are you sure on the age of R0a2f?
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I left 3 or more slice pies (circles) alone. I only count circles one step from center circle. So I didn't count 264 355 189 304.
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: I got 16 African and 9 for Arabian
quote:Originally posted by capra: okay, there are 9 basal branches containing only Africans (North or East/West). then there are 9 which contain both Africans and Eurasians. now i expect you to count shared branches as African because circular reasoning, but why only 7 of them?
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