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More lies being exposed. They would not release the data for independent analysis. Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!Ha!
==== Quote No evidence for unknown archaic ancestry in South Asia Pontus Skoglund1,2
Genomic studies have documented a contribution of archaic Neanderthals and Denisovans to non-Africans1,2. Recently Mondal et al.3 published a major dataset—the largest whole genome sequencing study of diverse South Asians to date—including 60 mainland groups and 10 indigenous Andamanese. They reported analyses claiming that nearly all South Asians harbor ancestry from an unknown archaic human population that is neither Neanderthal nor Denisovan. However, the statistics cited in support of this conclusion do not replicate in other data sets, and ***in fact contradict the conclusion.***
One possible explanation for the skew that the authors observe3 is batch artifacts, reflecting differences in laboratory or computer processing between the data newly reported by Mondal et al., and the data from non-Indians used for comparison10. Separate processing is known to be able to cause correlation of errors within datasets, and this could explain why the newly reported South Asian genomes appear (artifactually) to share fewer alleles with other modern humans. However, the data used by Mondal et al. have not been made available for independent reanalysis, and without this, a definitive explanation is not possible. Whatever the explanation, our analyses contradict the claim of unknown archaic ancestry in South Asians.
So. Paabo and Greene et al are being exposed as liars. Lies! Lies! and more lies!
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The signal of introgression is independent of Neanderthal sequences. Mutation slowdown predicts that the ABBA-BABA signal is an inherent property of modern humans, arising through a higher African mutation rate, so will be present regardless of the outgroups. I therefore conducted an ABBA-BABA analysis, substituting the Neanderthal genome with ancestral human alleles, AA, as inferred from a panel of primates by the 1000 genomes project, i.e. H1-H2-AA-CMP. To prevent any possible spill-over signal, all informative Neanderthal sites that contributed to the original ABBA-BABA signal were excluded. The resulting ABBA-BABA signal is even stronger than for H1-H2-NEA-CMP (Fig 2). The presence of a signal that not only remains but actually increases in strength when Neanderthal information is excluded indicates that much or all of the signal is unrelated to Neanderthal introgression and requires an alternative explanation (Supplementary material 2).
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The quantity of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans: a reanalysis relaxing the assumption of constant mutation rate. William Amos Department of Zoology Downing Street Cambridge CB2 3EJ
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As I said. I am here to teach...................!!!!!
We act like there is a physically border between Africa and Europe. AMH can migrate TO Europe from Gibraltar but NOT Neanderthal? lol! SMH. Man! You people. Logic is a bitch to some of us!
Come on Sage. That is like saying La Brana and Cheddar Man should be like a modern day white European.
We need to stop projecting our modern geopolitical beliefs into the past. These belief and views only came about 400years ago NOT 80,000 years ago!!! Abstract thoughts! people, Abstract thought!
""Neanderthal body plan and face seem odd for folk living in Africa even the north Maghreb. The last ones died in Spain, never crossed Gibraltar. Neanderthal ancestor may be from Africa, but not Neanderthal.""
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But we have youn un's reading this. Remember it is not about us it is about the new breed. Give them the tools to think critically. That is what higher level of learning is about.
No dogma but critical thoughts.
Anyone else?
quote:Originally posted by Tukuler: Whatever you say Mensa.
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To those who did not get it. They researchers are calling out Paabo and Greene on their BS theory of Neanderthal and AMH mating.
IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] As I said. I am here to teach...................!!!!!
We act like there is a physically border between Africa and Europe. AMH can migrate TO Europe from Gibraltar but NOT Neanderthal? lol! SMH. Man! You people. Logic is a bitch to some of us!
this is a logical fallacy. You say in effect that because Neanderthals and polar bears could walk across the sinai that they are both originate in Africa. I don't know why you have to even mention Gibraltar
Because something could go from one place to another doesn't mean that you can just choose where they originate out of where you want them to originate
Further, Denisova was found in Siberia And if you want to say "well maybe they came from Africa" even if they did it would be irrelevant because Africans didn't mix with them, Oceanic people did and the is shown in DNA matching
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HA! HA! HA! you are such a ditz and manipulator. First I don't argue hypotheticals.
and second - Too many straw man in your statement
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quote:Originally posted by xyyman: [QB] As I said. I am here to teach...................!!!!!
We act like there is a physically border between Africa and Europe. AMH can migrate TO Europe from Gibraltar but NOT Neanderthal? lol! SMH. Man! You people. Logic is a bitch to some of us!
this is a logical fallacy. You say in effect that because Neanderthals and polar bears could walk across the sinai that they are both originate in Africa. I don't know why you have to even mention Gibraltar
Because something could go from one place to another doesn't mean that you can just choose where they originate out of where you want them to originate
Further, Denisova was found in Siberia And if you want to say "well maybe they came from Africa" even if they did it would be irrelevant because Africans didn't mix with them, Oceanic people did and the is shown in DNA matching
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Again, whatever you say Mensa.
Convincing you or anyone of anything isn't my career choice.
Pro and con reports are out there. Based on them my mind's as made up as yours except I'm welcome to 3rd millennium paradigms that will replace all previous a priori like shooting a arrow then drawing the target and hollering BULL'S-EYE!
" The answer seems obvious IDK why gene flow from Africa is never considered."
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