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xyyman
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Views of genetics professionals on race, ancestry, and genetics


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/23294515.2018.1544177?journalCode=uabr21


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A content analysis of the views of genetics professionals on race, ancestry, and genetics
SC Nelson, Empirical Bioethics, 2019


Abstract
Over the past decade, the proliferation of genetic studies on human health and disease has reinvigorated debates about the appropriate role of race and ancestry in research and clinical care. Here we report on the responses of genetics professionals to a survey about their views on race, genetics, and ancestry across the domains of science, medicine, and society. Through a qualitative content analysis of free-text comments from 515 survey respondents, we identified key themes pertaining to multiple meanings of race, the use of race as a proxy for genetic ancestry, and the relevance of race and ancestry to health. Our findings suggest that for many genetics professionals the questions of what race is and what race means remain both professionally and personally contentious. . Looking ahead as genomics is translated into the practice of precision medicine and as learning health care systems offer continued improvements in care through integrated research, we argue for nuanced considerations of both race and genetic ancestry across research and care settings.


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What kind of BULLSHIT????

Asian
Black, African American
White

how about

Yellow, Asian American
African
White, European American

Why aren't Asians yellow American?
Why is black race American?
Why aren't whites European American?

Who decided these things for YOU?

Black, African American translates to
America OWNS blacks.


What arrogance.

Well at least they don't deny there are races.
Ironically, the only deniers of race
are those who suffer racism
and those who'd affect benign racism.

From anthropology's very beginnings
races have no hard and fast borders.
They proposed a race's edge is blurry
and races are more like clouds:
• not solid
• amorphous
• mixing, blending, separating
• new ones progress from old ones

Secretly held, but openly up front with racists and racialists
are racial temperaments and mentalities (ala dog breeds).


Perish forbid the black man as just African,
the way the yellow man is just Asian . Why?
Think hard about that, real hard.
Lots of effort to avoid that concept.

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Are Asians "just yellow?" Are blacks "just African?"

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Some Asia blacks of good sized population count.


Mela nesia  -
Northern Territory  -
Papua  -

A rare book. A 'travelogue'of Doc Ben in Papua
"They all look alike! all of them"?: From Egypt to Papua New Guinea with ben-Jochannan
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Are Africans just black?

Bring me all the reports in the world
and Asia is still the most divers
when it boils down to head face & body
of a continent's indigenous peoples.

See:
• The Secret Museum of Mankind
• Living Races of Mankind
• Women of All Nations

In those books one can also see the garb and peeks of culture until white European Coca-Colonization, even east and south Europe before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 granted them legal white privilege in the USA.
Yes white Europeans have a pecking order among themselves and like to forget about the Hun (except in Nordic mythology).
• Lands and Peoples

illustrates this tendency of white NW European assumed superiority.

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quote:
Originally posted by xyyman:


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This chart merely represents American government social census categorizations and presented to American genetics professionals as a given

Medical professionals are also trained on things like specific groups being more or less susceptible to certain diseases. So a generalization that could be useful in a medical context may not be useful in a social context.
That is why social construct terms based on skin color should not be used in biological contexts, instead geographic terms used unless specifically pertaining to skin (although social construct terms are still often used,although in many case not as well, in non-skin related medical articles)

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Here's a 2018 article. They don't use the racial terms "whites" or "blacks"
Instead African Americans and European Americans

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Deleted. Wrong thread

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quote:

A Nobel Prize-winning American scientist who co-discovered DNA has been stripped of his honorary titles at the laboratory he once led after repeating racist comments in a documentary.

James Watson, who discovered the double-helix structure of DNA alongside Francis Crick in the 1950s based on the work of British chemist Rosalind Franklin, said in a PBS film that genes cause a difference in intelligence between white and black people in IQ tests.

The 90-year-old's comments were labeled "reprehensible" by the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL) on New York's Long Island, where Watson had been the director from 1968 to 1993.

The laboratory said it "unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr. James D. Watson expressed," noting the statements were "reprehensible [and] unsupported by science."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/health/james-watson-honors-stripped-intl/index.html
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Quote:
"The 90-year-old's comments were labeled "reprehensible" by the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory (CSHL) on New York's Long Island, where Watson had been the director from 1968 to 1993.
The laboratory said it "unequivocally rejects the unsubstantiated and reckless personal opinions Dr. James D. Watson expressed," noting the statements were "reprehensible [and] unsupported by science."
Nobel physics winner criticized over controversial video
Nobel physics winner criticized over controversial video
"The Laboratory condemns the **misuse of science** to justify prejudice," its statement added.
CNN has attempted to reach Watson for comment.
Watson had previously told Britain's Sunday Times newspaper in 2007 that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours, whereas all the testing says not"

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And it continues to today....

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