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Has anybody seen this and what do you think?

Who are the Amazigh? - Origin, history and DNA assessment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2z7GLRy3TI

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Not much a YouTube guy myself but I got turned off and couldn't watch any more of it after the Neanderthal section. After slowing it down to 0.75% speed and skipping around to 4:16 I will try to overcome my own bias and digest the whole vid.


In all honesty in my opinion this is the 'best' site authored by iMazighen on taMazgha.

https://www.temehu.com/SiteMap.htm scroll down to The Berbers (Imazighen) section
https://www.temehu.com/

The author(s) quickly overcame the NorthAfrocentric approach originally employed around a decade ago.

It's been many a year since I last visited it though.

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Whoops the NorthAfrocentric bias that turned me off was in a diff vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8cSz641aCE

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I remember arguing that Anatolian Farmer ancestry was originally Lower Egyptian to the Sudan or Horn.
https://boris.unibe.ch/175511/1/2022.05.04.490594v5.full.pdf

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LVN = ancestry maximised in Anatolian farmer populations.

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It is the same typical narrative that tries to equate all of the history of Northern Africa with modern populations along the coast. Amazigh is a language and culture that is not over 10,000 years old and is not a phenotype. And most of the evolution of language and culture spanning tens of thousands of years in Northern Africa took place in and around the central and Southern Sahara and not simply the coasts. But this "Mediterranean" centered North African narrative started years ago with Egypt and then was refined by Gabriel Camps, as the French archeologist who created the modern school of Berber/Amazigh studies.
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Depends on what is meant by Amazigh. If one is referring to the physical peoples of population we already have studies like this on Mediterranean Africa, specifically the Maghreb showing dual ancestry i.e. African and European in Amazigh speakers. But if one is referring to Amazigh languages then such was discussed here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Forty2Tribes:

I remember arguing that Anatolian Farmer ancestry was originally Lower Egyptian to the Sudan or Horn.
https://boris.unibe.ch/175511/1/2022.05.04.490594v5.full.pdf

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LVN = ancestry maximised in Anatolian farmer populations.

I think LVN actually means Levant Neolithic with such ancestry being maximized in Anatolian First Farmers who also have other ancestries mixed in like Caucasian hunter-gatherers. But note the WHG (Western hunter-gatherers) who were the pre-Neolithic Western Europeans.-- their ancestry also spilled over into the Maghreb which explains the existence of white Berbers. The Maghrebi then (not necessarily all Amazigh) are more or less a combination of LVN from the east and WHG from the north (Europe).

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