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typeZeiss
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If you guys have the money start buying Dr. Ben's and Dr. Van Sertima books. They are becoming hard to find new.
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Some of Dr. Van Sertima's Golden Trade of the Moors have already reach the $100 mark used. I suspect this is related to the death of Dr. Van Sertia and also the lack of interest in African related studies.
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You mean golden age of the Moor. Golden Trade of The Moor is more Eurocentric nonsense spouting this idea that the Moors were light skinned Mulattoes which included all Berbers and that, of course, the blacks of the Sahara and further south were separate and distinct.
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug M:
You mean golden age of the Moor. Golden Trade of The Moor is more Eurocentric nonsense spouting this idea that the Moors were light skinned Mulattoes which included all Berbers and that, of course, the blacks of the Sahara and further south were separate and distinct.

here's the book online:

http://books.google.com/books?id=jNi7-Dq4B0IC&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Golden+Trade+of+the+Moors:+West+African+Kingdoms+in+t

The Golden Trade of the Moors: West African Kingdoms in the Fourteenth Century
By E. W. Bovill, Robin Hallett 1958


please give page numbers or quotes to the parts you don't agree with

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They really needed to make ebooks or something.
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quote:
Originally posted by Oshun:
They really needed to make ebooks or something.

Dr. Van Sertima's wife is in charge of the publishing of his work. I hope people will reach out to her and suggest the ebooks.
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quote:
Originally posted by ausar:
Some of Dr. Van Sertima's Golden Trade of the Moors have already reach the $100 mark used. I suspect this is related to the death of Dr. Van Sertia and also the lack of interest in African related studies.

you need to stop playing and answer my question in the Nigeria thread about your interest in Ifa
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I wouldn't touch any book written by a White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist let alone buy it and put money in their pockets.
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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
I wouldn't touch any book written by a White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist let alone buy it and put money in their pockets.

You're safe then, because van sertima is none of the above.
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Van Sertima has been exposed as a fraud.

Afrocentrics have zero credible publications, which is why they have to set up their own book publishers and peer-reviewed journals.

The young earth creationists do exactly the same, set up their own peer-reviewed publishers as mainstream reject their views as pseudo-science and pseudo-historical, that's what afrocentrism is equivilant to.

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quote:
Originally posted by DHDoxies:
I wouldn't touch any book written by a White people hating, Black racist, Black supremacist let alone buy it and put money in their pockets.

Virtually no one buys them anyway.

Van Sertima's works hardly sell. Even his ''They Came Before Columbus'' (1976) was rejected by all academia upon publication, barely getting a mention in any journal.

Afrocentrism is basically equivilant to the cranky UFO, Von Daniken section when you go into a book store. No one takes it serious.

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Afrocentrism is basically equivilant to the cranky UFO, Von Daniken section when you go into a book store. No one takes it serious.
Says the person who calls himself Pyramidologist.

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Pyramidology is a term used, sometimes disparagingly, to refer to various pseudoscientific speculations regarding pyramids,
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Pyramidology is regarded as pseudoscience by scientists today, who regard such hypotheses as sensationalist, inaccurate and/or wholly deficient in empirical analysis and application of the scientific method.

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quote:
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Afrocentrism is basically equivilant to the cranky UFO, Von Daniken section when you go into a book store. No one takes it serious.
Says the person who calls himself Pyramidologist.

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Pyramidology is a term used, sometimes disparagingly, to refer to various pseudoscientific speculations regarding pyramids,
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Pyramidology is regarded as pseudoscience by scientists today, who regard such hypotheses as sensationalist, inaccurate and/or wholly deficient in empirical analysis and application of the scientific method.

Pyramidology is the study of pyramids. It's not pseudo-science. The term was later abused by 'New Age' writers, who started nonsense theories about the egyptian pyramids being constructed by atlanteans or aliens.

Might i add that modern afrocentrism is directly linked to the crackpot new age/ancient astronaut theorists.... Thomas Brophy , co-author of 'black genesis' (an afronut work) is a tin foil hat nutter who thinks aliens were involved in ancient egypt and the nabta Playa -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabta_Playa

''They also criticised suggestions made by Brophy in his book The Origin Map that there was a representation of the Milky Way as it was in 17,500 BC and maps of Orion at 16500 BC, saying "These extremely early dates as well as the proposition that the nomads had contact with extra galactic aliens are inconsistent with the archaeological record. Inference in archaeoastronomy must always be guided and informed by archaeology, especially when substantial field work has been performed in the region''

[Roll Eyes]

'Black genesis' is a work the afrocentrics have claimed to admire on this forum.

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Pyramidology is the study of pyramids.
The study of pyramids, like all other excavated architectural structures, is called archaeology, you birdbrain.

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It's not pseudo-science.
Cite a credible scholar, in support of this.
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quote:
Originally posted by Swenet:
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Pyramidology is the study of pyramids.
The study of pyramids, like all other excavated architectural structures, is called archaeology, you birdbrain.

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It's not pseudo-science.
Cite a credible scholar, in support of this.

The term Pyramidology was coined by Charles Piazzi Smyth in 1870. He was the director of the Royal Observatory, Scotland (Astronomer Royal) and professor of astronomy in the University of Edinburgh.

Is that 'credible' enough for you? Craters in the Moon are even named after Smyth in honour of his academic contributions.

There is nothing pseudo-scientific about metrological Pyramidology. The ancient egyptians used the royal cubit as their main measurement to build the pyramids.

The pseudo-scientific pyramid theories you are probably thinking about are crazy people who claim aliens built the pyramids (your hero bauval would fit in that camp [Wink] ).

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Bird brain, I said cite a credible scholar in support of it, not cite who coined it, and prove that person is credible (this is not an admission that the person you cited is credible on the subject). Again, cite a credible scholar in support of the idea that metrological pyramidology is not pseudo science.

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Smyth claimed—and presumably believed—that the inch was a God-given measure handed down through the centuries from the time of Israel, and that the architects of the pyramid could only have been directed by the hand of God.

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