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My Egyptian man is smoking pipe now after I left Cairo. I told him I do not like his way to reduce stress , cause he will run to find other woman if he is not satisfied with me too someday. And now he asking to come to my country after Eid and want to be with me in Bali.

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Originally posted by Angel Heart:
My Egyptian man is smoking pipe now after I left Cairo. I told him I do not like his way to reduce stress , cause he will run to find other woman if he is not satisfied with me too someday. And now he asking to come to my country after Eid and want to be with me in Bali.

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Assalaamu Alaykum,

Excuse me. I'm sorry aren't you both Muslims? I usually keep quiet on this board with he say she say stuff. Allah knows that there is a lot of it.
However, I am reminded of the statement of the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalaam on "Enjoining the Good and Forbidding the Evil" wherein it is reported that he said: "..there are some people on a ship (and the ship has two levels). The people on the bottom of the ship need to get water to drink, however, they do not want to bother the people on the upper deck. So the people on the lower deck say 'let's not bother the people on the upper deck, let's just make a hole in the bottom of the ship and get our water from there so we do not disturb the people on the upper deck. The Prophet Muhammad Salallahu alayhi wassalaam said "If the people on the upper deck do not prevent or stop the people from the lower deck from making a hole in the ship ALL of them will parish."

The condoning male and female relationships between two Muslims outside of marriage (if this is the case) or even between Muslims and Non-Muslims outside of marriage is/has is not permissible in Islam wa Allahu Ta'ala Alim. There is no doubt or question about this. The Quran says (translated) "Remind the Believers for in the reminding is benefit." Sister I advise you and I advised all women and men to honor themselves and protect and guard your chastity and modesty. You are told to wear proper hijab "so that you will be known as FREE and RESPECTABLE women." Do not put yourself in compromising situations. This is not the type of behavior that Allah and His Beloved Messenger salallahu alayhi wassalaam teaches us as Muslims.

It has been related: That the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalaam was sitting with two of his wives and a blind man came upon them, the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalaam told them to go into hiding. They said that "he is a blind man he can not see us." The Rasulullah Salallahu alayhi wassalam said "you both are not blind you can see him."

One of the main reason that a lot of negative issues arise within some of the relationship that have been discussed on this form/board is because the foundation of the relationship are wrong/weak and when the foundation of a building is weak the whole structure will be weak as well and it will crumble. Every Friday prayer or any type of speech in Islam we are reminded "That the best Speech is the Speech of Allah i.e. the Quran, and the BEST Guidance is the Guidance i.e. teachings living examples of the Prophet Muhammad salallalhu Alayhi wassalaam. When we go against " THE BEST OF GUIDANCE" and that is the way of the Prophet Muhammad Salallahu alayhi wassalam or as well as any of the righteous Prophets be that Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim etc May Allah be pleased with them All, Ameen, they we will see that chaos and confusion will be the there from the beginning and if the ways and actions are not changed it will be then until the end.

By being in boyfriend/girlfriend relationship (and we are Muslims) what kind of example are we setting for the Non-Muslims? It is no wonder that the condition and situation of Al Islaam is grave and deteriorating within the eyesight of the Non-Muslims and Muslims as well. When will we as a whole (Muslim Nations) stand up and demonstrate the correct teachings and examples that have been taught to us by Al Islaam? We want good (khair) but we are not doing good. There is a old saying.."garbage in garbage out."

Umar ibn Al Khattab radiallahu ta'ala anho said" "Take account of yourself before Allah takes account of you!" So I remind you and I remind me because my tongue is closest to my ear. Ask yourself if the actions that we are doing are the pleasing to our Lord? Will they earn His Azza wa Jal pleasure and love? Or will they be a witness against us and earn His Subhanahu wa Ta'ala displeasure?

Each and even second you have an opportunity to come closer to your Creator and you do that by earning His Love not His Tabaraka Ta'ala wrath. Do not seek the pleasure of the creation OVER the Creator.

In closing I remind you that to earn the pleasure of Allah Azza wa Jal is our ultimate goal and achievement. In the beautiful words of the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalam I remind you of a BEAUTIFUL and LOVING statement wherein he salallahu alayhi wassalaam said:

"When Allah (Jala Jalahu ) loves a person He tabaraka ta'ala says to the Angel Gabriel "I love such and such (mentioning them by name) and I ORDER you to love such and such."

Then Angel Gabriel goes to the heavens and says to the inhabitants of the heavens that "Allah loves such and such and He orders you to love such and such." And then all of the inhabitants of the heavens love such and such.

Masha Allah. May you all be amongst those whom Allah Azza wa Jal mentions your name to Angel Gabriel out of His tabaraka ta'ala love for you and then all of the inhabitants of paradise will be mentioning our name and loving you as well, Ameen.

Sister live your Al Islaam today! From this very moment with all of the fibers of your body, your heart mind and soul and encourage your Muslim brother to do the same in a halal and respectable way! When you take one step towards Allah Azza wa Jal then Allah will take two steps you! Stand up for your rights to be respected as a Muslimah demand that respect from ALL those who are around you and then you will see the light of Al Islaam shinning brightly upon you and in your life and the love of Allah will be evident in all of your deeds and actions. I pray that Allah make it easy for you and all of those who sincerely wish to see the face of Allah Tabaraka Ta'ala, Ameen.

Anything that was said which was good was from Allah and anything thing that was said which was wrong or evil was from myself and my nafs.

Suhanaka Allahumma wa Bi Hamdika Ash hadu an La ilaha ill Anta Astaghfiruka wa atuboo alaik

Assalaamu Alaikum wa rahmatullah

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walaikum salam wa rahmatullah wa barakatahu

This was absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

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Originally posted by doodlebug:
walaikum salam wa rahmatullah wa barakatahu

This was absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

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This was absolutely beautiful. Thank you.

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Originally posted by With a name like Smuckers:
If he is Muslim, try to convince him that smoking is haram...other than that who knows. I'm with you on this though, I would hate if my husband suddenly took up smoking. Thankfully he hates even being near others smoking.

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But Smucky - 99.9% of Egypt smokes: goats, donkeys and street dogs included!

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Originally posted by Mother War:
Is this just tobacco he's smoking? If so, what's the big deal? Him smoking doesn't mean he's gonna run out and commit adultery. It sounds like there's something bigger going on than smoking.

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Originally posted by Karah_Mia:
But Smucky - 99.9% of Egypt smokes: goats, donkeys and street dogs included!

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Hahahahaaaa, I wanna see that!!!

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Originally posted by Mother War:
I see your point but because I am a smoker I'm skeptical.
BTW...I don't see smoking as a "sin".

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My husband smokes, too, but he does consider smoking "haram". Doesn't stop him though.

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I see your point but because I am a smoker I'm skeptical.
BTW...I don't see smoking as a "sin".

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LOL I'm sure you don't becasue you smoke!..I just couldn't help myself with that comment...

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Originally posted by VanillaBullshit:
Smoking will lead one to become sexually aroused by kitchen appliances.


Well, that makes about as much sense as the first post.

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Originally posted by Horny Teletubbies Around Us Wicked:
you wanna leave your boy friend because he smoke and you wanna try to stop him from smoking by saying its haram forbidden

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In fairness to the OP, she did not say anything about smoking being haram. Others volunteered the haram fatwa, and some suggested using that. The OP just asked for advice about what she should do. Also, I could not ascertain from the OP that it's a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship.

I don't smoke myself, but I find it interesting that smoking became haram during my lifetime.

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you wanna leave your boy friend because he smoke and you wanna try to stop him from smoking by saying its haram forbidden

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In fairness to the OP, she did not say anything about smoking being haram. Others volunteered the haram fatwa, and some suggested using that. The OP just asked for advice about what she should do. Also, I could not ascertain from the OP that it's a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship.

I don't smoke myself, but I find it interesting that smoking became haram during my lifetime.

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i was making comments to the prophets here didn't mean her sorry for the confusions

my comments for her was the part includes hit the road jack lol
thanks for helping me to clear this out before
our prophets here had my head down for free
amr

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Is Smoking Permitted? Is it a Munkar?

Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani, SunniPath Academy Teacher

In the Reliance, Sh. Nuh translated a fatwa stating that smoking cigarettes is haram because it is like committing suicide on oneself due to the fact that doctors have come out and said that smoking does kill. What about smoking the Hookah (the smoking device found in most Arab countries)? Is there an opinion on that specifically? The Hookah has been around much longer than cigarettes and some classical scholars may have commented on it. I'm trying to understand if there is a difference between cigarettes and the hookah, either by the tobacco that's being used, or how it works. Is it haram, makruh, etc to use such a device?


Walaikum assalaam,

Smoking is differed upon among scholars, and the ruling for hookahs follows that of smoking. The opinion mentioned in the Reliance is also taken by many major Hanafis in our times and in the past. This is certainly the more precautious opinion, and seems to make sense both socially and individually.

HOWEVER, other great scholars still hold that smoking is disliked and not impermissible. While one may not agree with them, their reasoning is has legal grounding and is certainly not baseless. Among such scholars are major Hanafis of India and Pakistan, who say that the actual act of smoking is disliked (makruh tanzihan) unless grave harm is feared from it in one’s specific case. They are well aware of the medical evidence, and take it into consideration in their ruling. I heard this opinion, for example, from Mufti Mahmoud Usmani (Allah preserve him), whose knowledge, wisdom and understanding where eye-opening.

NOW, one may not follow this opinion, but it opens a difference of opinion in the issue, which means that it is no longer obligatory for us as individuals to forbid the evil if one sees someone smoking, though, given one’s belief and the direction religious caution and worldly considerations point, it would be recommended and praiseworthy to advise such smokers to desist, out of nasiha.

May Allah guide us to the best of ways and manners, and grant us the success to follow His Beloved Prophet, for he who is like the beloved is beloved.

Wassalam,
Faraz Rabbani.

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The condoning male and female relationships between two Muslims outside of marriage (if this is the case) or even between Muslims and Non-Muslims outside of marriage is/has is not permissible in Islam wa Allahu Ta'ala Alim. There is no doubt or question about this. The Quran says (translated) "Remind the Believers for in the reminding is benefit." Sister I advise you and I advised all women and men to honor themselves and protect and guard your chastity and modesty. You are told to wear proper hijab "so that you will be known as FREE and RESPECTABLE women." Do not put yourself in compromising situations. This is not the type of behavior that Allah and His Beloved Messenger salallahu alayhi wassalaam teaches us as Muslims.

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So you coming to egypt with your bf to get married doesnt fall into this category, Sands??? Out of curiosity , what do you consider the man who you are coming from the usa to marry?? A stranger?? If you want to start throwing Islamic verses around to make a young lady feel bad about herself for having a relationship just as you are, then I think you should remember-Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Or maybe it is she who lives in the great glass castle on the pedestal in the sky, should never throw stones

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The condoning male and female relationships between two Muslims outside of marriage (if this is the case) or even between Muslims and Non-Muslims outside of marriage is/has is not permissible in Islam wa Allahu Ta'ala Alim. There is no doubt or question about this. The Quran says (translated) "Remind the Believers for in the reminding is benefit." Sister I advise you and I advised all women and men to honor themselves and protect and guard your chastity and modesty. You are told to wear proper hijab "so that you will be known as FREE and RESPECTABLE women." Do not put yourself in compromising situations. This is not the type of behavior that Allah and His Beloved Messenger salallahu alayhi wassalaam teaches us as Muslims.

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So you coming to egypt with your bf to get married doesnt fall into this category, Sands??? Out of curiosity , what do you consider the man who you are coming from the usa to marry?? A stranger?? If you want to start throwing Islamic verses around to make a young lady feel bad about herself for having a relationship just as you are, then I think you should remember-Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Or maybe it is she who lives in the great glass castle on the pedestal in the sky, should never throw stones

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Originally posted by Somewhere in the sands:
You still owe me an apology. I never said smoking leads to fornication..Bring forth your proof.

You need to re-read my post and not what others have posted. You will not find one letter let alone a word of me saying that smoking leads to fornication.

Again awaiting a sincere apology..

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My Egyptian man is smoking pipe now after I left Cairo. I told him I do not like his way to reduce stress , cause he will run to find other woman if he is not satisfied with me too someday. And now he asking to come to my country after Eid and want to be with me in Bali.

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Assalaamu Alaykum,

Excuse me. I'm sorry aren't you both Muslims? I usually keep quiet on this board with he say she say stuff. Allah knows that there is a lot of it.
However, I am reminded of the statement of the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalaam on "Enjoining the Good and Forbidding the Evil" wherein it is reported that he said: "..there are some people on a ship (and the ship has two levels). The people on the bottom of the ship need to get water to drink, however, they do not want to bother the people on the upper deck. So the people on the lower deck say 'let's not bother the people on the upper deck, let's just make a hole in the bottom of the ship and get our water from there so we do not disturb the people on the upper deck. The Prophet Muhammad Salallahu alayhi wassalaam said "If the people on the upper deck do not prevent or stop the people from the lower deck from making a hole in the ship ALL of them will parish."

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Not gonna give you one, sorry.
She posted about her boyfriend smoking, and you posted this in response. Therefore, correlation of your post leads one to believe that. Why would you post this in here So you are guilty of leading all down this path, dont expect an apology for what you have started.I already apologized for the gender mixup as I should have, thats it. You want to post verses from the quran because you believe your piety puts you on a higher plane than other muslims on this board, then post them in the religious forum.

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my egyptian guy is also smoking, i think nothings wrong with that..especially if he's nervous.. but one time we tried a crazy thing and i dnt know how to call that stuff and its frm egypt.. it is a black one and u need to melt it and after that mix it to the cigarette then smoke it..he told me its not a drugs but i forgot what is the name, then when i tried it i didn't feel anything its just like a normal cigarette.

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Originally posted by Almaz.:
Most of us, Egyptian Muslims - my family, relatives, neighbors, colleagues, friends, relatives of friends, acquaintances, my doctor, my accountant etc.. - do not use Islamic terms all the time. We say Insha Allah yes, but we do not say AZZA WA JAL... and we do not say Jazakom Allah KHAIR all the time, and many other Islamic terms that I noticed are usually used by converts.

We do not refer to this surat or the other in every conversation. Unless there is a related question, and then we can explain with a reference.

I find many converts very focused on always using Islamic terms, even in non religious conversations, they still insist on adding a few quotes from the Qur'an.

Just an observation.

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Also, about the URFI marriage. It is a very controversial issue in Egypt. It is not a welcomed 'marriage' in most families.

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Also, about the URFI marriage. It is a very controversial issue in Egypt. It is not a welcomed 'marriage' in most families.

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Barakllahu feekum..In my family mashaa Allah obvisously it is fully acceptable. As our marriage was conducted in accordance with Quran and Sunnah and NOT man made laws. If we would have married the civil way..it would not have been a marriage in legal standing of Islaam. The civil marriage in Egypt does not require the approval or permission of a wali and the Prophet Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalaam said: "There is no marriage with out a Wali!" PERIOD!

So the civil marriage is only done to satisfy the legals aspect of those governments who follow and obey man made laws. We wanted to ensure first that Allah's laws were applied and governed first concering our marriage, then if there was no contradiction of Allah laws to get married civil marriage would be the alternative choice.

Almighty Allah said : “Say (O Muhammad -Allaahu 'alayhi wa sallam to mankind) : “if you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept islamic monotheism, follow the Qur’an and Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” Qur’an 3:31.

Alhamdulillah we are happy with "OUR" situation. It may not be welcomed and suitable for some Egyptians. However, it was the first and foremost choice for us. Most of the Urfi marriages that you probably hear about are not done Islamically and certainly they are done many of them without the wali and/or parents even being aware that their daughter has entered into a illegal situation. You can't even call it marriage because if this is the case where no wali has given the approval in the eyesight of Islam it is not even a valid marriage and therein lies the problem. Garbage in Garbage out!

We ask Allah Azza wa Jal to guide us and all of our brothers/sistes to that which is righteous and truthful, Ameen.

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Originally posted by Almaz.:
Most of us, Egyptian Muslims - my family, relatives, neighbors, colleagues, friends, relatives of friends, acquaintances, my doctor, my accountant etc.. - do not use Islamic terms all the time. We say Insha Allah yes, but we do not say AZZA WA JAL... and we do not say Jazakom Allah KHAIR all the time, and many other Islamic terms that I noticed are usually used by converts.

We do not refer to this surat or the other in every conversation. Unless there is a related question, and then we can explain with a reference.

I find many converts very focused on always using Islamic terms, even in non religious conversations, they still insist on adding a few quotes from the Qur'an.

Just an observation.

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You are very observant Mashaa Allah Tabaraka Ta'ala. Jazaakum Allahu Khairan for your post.

I hope that here is nothing wrong with keeping one's tongue (convert or not) busy with the dhikrullah? For Allah Azza wa jal says: "In the rememberance of Allah does the heart find rest." Suratul Ar Ra's verse 28

In every action the Prophet Muhammad salallah alayhi wassalaam was ALWAYS busy remembering and praising Allah Jala Jalahu.

Abu Musa Radhiallahu ‘anhu narrated that the Prophet Shalallahu ‘alaihi wa Salam said : “The similitude of the one who remembers (glorifies the praises of) his Lord (Allah) in comparison to the one who dos not remember (glorify the praises of) his, Lord, is like that of a living and the dead.” Narrated by Al-Bukhari.


We ask Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala to increase us All in Taqwah (God's awareness), Ameen when this happens we will drawer nearer and dearer to Him Ar Rahman!

Barakallahu feekum

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Originally posted by Almaz.:
Can you explain to me please why would Allah Ta'ala yatabaraka my post? what's in my post that would be so important to Allah AZZA wa Jal? and how relevant is it that Allah is giving me blessings on anything I wrote on this post? and the fact that you are wishing that 'jazzaka Allah Khairan' for my post is also not understandable.

All your wishes are very beautiful,thank you! I just find them a bit 'over' or 'too much'! But THANK YOU from the heart, in all cases! [/QB]

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"A Muslim is one who is saved from another Muslim's his tongue and hands."

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"A Muslim is one who is saved from another Muslim's his tongue and hands."

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Say what??

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Here's some sound advice from VanillaBullshit:

Post your dogmatic, bore-the-crap-out-of-everybody ramblings in the religion forum, stop demanding apologies, and STFU.

On that note I leave you with my trusted but deadly companion, Little Asian Girl.

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BOY FIGHT, BOY FIGHT!

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