I have noticed numerous times on this form that certain topics are considered "taboo" to discuss. An example is when I mentioned the fact that White people tended to have greater brain assymetry than Blacks. The school system seems to be teaching a multiculturalist agenda that promotes equality as being equal, meaning the same. This instruction is becoming a form of brainwashing with Black Youth whereby they now believe that surfacing difficult or challenging cultural topics is taboo. A politically correct discourse is now in play which stifles open and candid dialogue. The purpose of this political correctness seems to be centered on maintaining the status quo by not raising and addressing tough questions and topics.
Posted by Mmmkay (Member # 10013) on :
^^Raising a topic such as that would probably be *against* their self-interest. In many ways the "political correctness" benefits "whites" more so than minorities. Sometimes being "PC" means carrying on the establishment view i.e. ----->eurocentrism---->the gold standard by which other cultures are measured and valued.
Interesting line of thought tho. Though the nationalistic overtones seem apparent.
Posted by Young H*O*R*U*S (Member # 11484) on :
yes, it's all about the use of words.
Posted by Evergreen (Member # 12192) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mmmkay: ^^Raising a topic such as that would probably be *against* their self-interest. In many ways the "political correctness" benefits "whites" more so than minorities.
Evergreen Writes:
Political Correctness certainly benefits Whites more than "minorities". In fact, when Blacks raise the issue of Ancient Egypt being a Black African civilization we are marginalized and labeled "Afrocentric". Political Correctness is used as a weapon and is the last bastion of White Supremacy.
Posted by HistoryFacelift (Member # 14696) on :
Little Billy: But Egypt is an Africa..but the images don't have white skin...
Teacher: Now, now little Billy, you are becoming an Afrocentric. Everyone knows you can't be Afrocentric when talking about Africa, dunce hat in the corner.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
Hhhmmmph. Early in form school I wondered why I didn't ace a certain social science test. The only question I got wrong was the continental location of Egypt.
I looked at several classmates' papers who got the question "right." They'd chosen Asia. I marched up to teacher and complained: "You marked me wrong." Teacher informed with with no uncertainty that Egypt was in Asia.
Calling the classes attention I pulled down the map of Asia and asked if anyone can find Egypt on it. Of course there were no takers. Then I pulled the African map. The room went acry with: "There's Egypt, there's Egypt." Teacher retorted: "Egypt may look like it's in Africa but it's really in Asia."
That evening at home I was in for a surprise. My quite upset parents proceeded to chastise me. Why? A call from school alerted them that not only had I disturbed class I also was uncomplimentary toward teacher who very emotionally had informed my parents for them to discipline me.
Ever since then Africana has been my raison d’être because I learned, and learned humilatingly hard, "society's institutions" were trying to hide something about me from me.
Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
Evergreen, please put OT in the topic subject because it's not related to AE and very few Africans relate to the subject(I mean it's more an American topic)...
Posted by rasol (Member # 4592) on :
quote:Then I pulled the African map. The room went acry with: "There's Egypt, there's Egypt." Teacher retorted: "Egypt may look like it's in Africa but it's really in Asia."
Even as cynical as I can sometimes be - I am surprised about the incompetence of your teacher.
Not only is the teachers position idiotic, but one of the elementary rules of teaching is to encourage students to engage and question.
You teach your students how to think for themselves.... you don't tell them 'what' to think.
Teacher should have been fired.
Posted by Evergreen (Member # 12192) on :
quote:Originally posted by Habari: Evergreen, please put OT in the topic subject because it's not related to AE and very few Africans relate to the subject(I mean it's more an American topic)...
Evergreen Writes:
Actually you are wrong. This is the Ancient Egypt Forum: Non-Egyptology related discussion. African roots, race, origin of man etc.
Hence, it is not off-topic.
Posted by Habari (Member # 14738) on :
You are right, I forgot that they split the forum...Sorry about that...
Posted by Ebony Allen (Member # 12771) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Hhhmmmph. Early in form school I wondered why I didn't ace a certain social science test. The only question I got wrong was the continental location of Egypt.
I looked at several classmates' papers who got the question "right." They'd chosen Asia. I marched up to teacher and complained: "You marked me wrong." Teacher informed with with no uncertainty that Egypt was in Asia.
Calling the classes attention I pulled down the map of Asia and asked if anyone can find Egypt on it. Of course there were no takers. Then I pulled the African map. The room went acry with: "There's Egypt, there's Egypt." Teacher retorted: "Egypt may look like it's in Africa but it's really in Asia."
That evening at home I was in for a surprise. My quite upset parents proceeded to chastise me. Why? A call from school alerted them that not only had I disturbed class I also was uncomplimentary toward teacher who very emotionally had informed my parents for them to discipline me.
Ever since then Africana has been my raison d’être because I learned, and learned humilatingly hard, "society's institutions" were trying to hide something about me from me.
Wow. Getting the right answer "wrong". I would've raised hell towards the teacher.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Damn, Takruri! No wonder you're,.. uh.. the way you are-- paranoid of peoples of non-African descent as well as obsessed with keeping African history for African descent peoples only.
The incident you described with the teacher sounds so crazy and absurd, it sounds more like a nightmare literally a bad dream than something that could happen in reality! I mean even the a person with the most basic and elementary knowledge in geography let alone a teacher would know Egypt is in Africa! Why do you think the Euro-racists want to divide Africa in the first place into North and Sub-Sahara with Sub-Sahara being the geographic 'ghetto' of blacks?!
Is this person still teaching?? That teacher sounds worse than Professor Hore!!
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
You don't know me nor what I want much less the multi-ethnic makeup of my friends and associates who don't try to rule me nor I them when it comes to matters of their particular ethnicities. Real people in the real world know that as a working reality outsiders cannot be at the top but can be in position anywhere else.
What you need to do is pop psycho analyze yourself as a very dark but not black reputably Asian boy running around here with a black African God's name.
Posted by HistoryFacelift (Member # 14696) on :
quote:"Egypt may look like it's in Africa but it's really in Asia."
The most hilarious thing I have heard all day. This is what the public system does, we can't control the biases of every one we employ to teach our children, especially if said "teacher" was educated in the 1950s...
Posted by Tyrann0saurus (Member # 3735) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: Hhhmmmph. Early in form school I wondered why I didn't ace a certain social science test. The only question I got wrong was the continental location of Egypt.
I looked at several classmates' papers who got the question "right." They'd chosen Asia. I marched up to teacher and complained: "You marked me wrong." Teacher informed with with no uncertainty that Egypt was in Asia.
Calling the classes attention I pulled down the map of Asia and asked if anyone can find Egypt on it. Of course there were no takers. Then I pulled the African map. The room went acry with: "There's Egypt, there's Egypt." Teacher retorted: "Egypt may look like it's in Africa but it's really in Asia."
That evening at home I was in for a surprise. My quite upset parents proceeded to chastise me. Why? A call from school alerted them that not only had I disturbed class I also was uncomplimentary toward teacher who very emotionally had informed my parents for them to discipline me.
Ever since then Africana has been my raison d’être because I learned, and learned humilatingly hard, "society's institutions" were trying to hide something about me from me.
This is one of the problems I have with America. The quality of education we have---especially in critical areas such as science, history, and geography---is ridiculous. That's why you have all these ignoramuses running around spouting nonsense like "evolution is wrong", "AIDS was manmade", "homeopathy works", and in your case, "Egypt is not in Africa". Part of the problem is that more often than not, the teachers we hire in our schools know jack **** about the subjects they're teaching about and refer to the textbooks (themselves often written by non-experts). If we hired genuine, university-trained experts instead of random yahoos to teach and write our textbooks, ludicrous bullshit like this wouldn't happen.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
It's lesson planners of educational boards who direct what teachers are supposed to teach. A conscious teacher will negate indoctrinary lesson plans and teach from as progressive an angle as possible with the assigned books and other materials.
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: You don't know me nor what I want much less the multi-ethnic makeup of my friends and associates who don't try to rule me nor I them when it comes to matters of their particular ethnicities. Real people in the real world know that as a working reality outsiders cannot be at the top but can be in position anywhere else.
Okay, and I never claimed to know you, much less try to "rule" you. As again I notice you bring up that word. You seem to be worried about being controlled by others as that maybe stems from that experience you had. I'm not your form school teacher.
quote:What you need to do is pop psycho analyze yourself as a very dark but not black reputably Asian boy running around here with a black African God's name.
Well let's see. I'm of Southeast Asian ancestry which is why I'm dark but not that dark to be called 'black' as it seems you assume. The black African god I chose as a moniker is specifically Egyptian as this is an Egyptian forum. So, what then?
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tyrann0saurus: This is one of the problems I have with America. The quality of education we have---especially in critical areas such as science, history, and geography---is ridiculous. That's why you have all these ignoramuses running around spouting nonsense like "evolution is wrong", "AIDS was manmade", "homeopathy works", and in your case, "Egypt is not in Africa". Part of the problem is that more often than not, the teachers we hire in our schools know jack **** about the subjects they're teaching about and refer to the textbooks (themselves often written by non-experts). If we hired genuine, university-trained experts instead of random yahoos to teach and write our textbooks, ludicrous bullshit like this wouldn't happen.
The problem as usual is that we are dealing with a public (government) school system. Though not all public school teachers are bad. It really depends on the school and the particular teacher. Again, some people like myself are lucky enough not to have just one but many teachers who not only teach accurate information but did indeed teach us to think for ourselves, as Rasol pointed out. This is what teachers are supposed to do but apparently not everybody has such a luxury.
In the case of Takruri, that had to be the worst example I have ever heard of a public school teacher gone wrong.
Posted by alTakruri (Member # 10195) on :
Will you shut up already, please, and get some glasses because you damn sure don't see me clearly at all with your crackerjack box free prize pop psychiatry degree.
quote:Originally posted by Djehuti:
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: You don't know me nor what I want much less the multi-ethnic makeup of my friends and associates who don't try to rule me nor I them when it comes to matters of their particular ethnicities. Real people in the real world know that as a working reality outsiders cannot be at the top but can be in position anywhere else.
Okay, and I never claimed to know you, much less try to "rule" you. As again I notice you bring up that word. You seem to be worried about being controlled by others as that maybe stems from that experience you had. I'm not your form school teacher.
quote:What you need to do is pop psycho analyze yourself as a very dark but not black reputably Asian boy running around here with a black African God's name.
Well let's see. I'm of Southeast Asian ancestry which is why I'm dark but not that dark to be called 'black' as it seems you assume. The black African god I chose as a moniker is specifically Egyptian as this is an Egyptian forum. So, what then?
Posted by Yonis2 (Member # 11348) on :
^LOL
I agree with alTakruri, Djehuti seems to have taken the role of a teacher when he's at this forum. Djehuti you should realize that your not a a tutor or some moral guide. You get annoying whenever you post "correct" or "incorrect" after peoples posts. Just say "i agree" or "i disagree", which is much better. Your self assigned "true opinion" and issues are getting in the way of communication. You are not here to review some highschool assignment paper or point out what's "correct/incorrect" and your opinion is not the optimal one (regardless how much you would like it to be). Basically what you need to do is chill with your arrogance.
Btw you never answered my question before, so here it is again, are you a "Yellow" man? if not what are you, a "white", "black", WHAT? It shouldn't be that hard for you to answer considering that you don't have trouble telling others what they are, right? Or is it "incorrect", LOL
Posted by Djehuti (Member # 6698) on :
^ Wow if anyone needs to chill is YOU guys! It's really not serious. To Yonis, I don't know what you mean about being "arrogant". I speak my mind is all and what I judge as correct or not is based on factual things not opinions. As to Takruri, sorry if I sounded pyschoanalytical on you, but again I'm not your idiotic teacher, so please chill out.
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
Question dodged again but perhaps like Takruri (I think) Djehuti doesn't personally really adhere to his identity a colour.
Posted by Alive-(What Box) (Member # 10819) on :
quote:Originally posted by Evergreen: I have noticed numerous times on this form that certain topics are considered "taboo" to discuss. An example is when I mentioned the fact that White people tended to have greater brain assymetry than Blacks. The school system seems to be teaching a multiculturalist agenda that promotes equality as being equal, meaning the same. This instruction is becoming a form of brainwashing with Black Youth whereby they now believe that surfacing difficult or challenging cultural topics is taboo. A politically correct discourse is now in play which stifles open and candid dialogue. The purpose of this political correctness seems to be centered on maintaining the status quo by not raising and addressing tough questions and topics.
Evergreen, you really know what's goin' on, though my "view" probably isn't the the same as yours with respect to this particular topic.
Posted by Young H*O*R*U*S (Member # 11484) on :
“If you do not understand White Supremacy (Racism) - what it is, and how it works - everything else that you understand, will only confuse you.” - Neely Fuller, Jr. (1971)
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Damn, Takruri! No wonder you're,.. uh.. the way you are-- paranoid of peoples of non-African descent as well as obsessed with keeping African history for African descent peoples only.![[Wink]](wink.gif)