Ultra-Orthodox Jews who moved from Canada to Guatemalan village to find 'religious freedom' are forced to leave because the locals don't like them Members of the Lev Tahor sect forced to flee from Guatemalan village Left Canada in March amid allegations of child abuse and forced marriages Elders at the San Juan La Laguna council voted to kick them out More than 230 people were expelled from their homes yesterday Radical strain of Hassidic Judaism was founded in 1980 by Rabbi Helbrans
109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250
Members of Jewish community, Lev Tahor, with their belongings before boarding buses in San Juan La Laguna
The village Elder's Council voted to kick them out because of growing tensions with locals
Misael Santos from the Lev Tahor community said: 'We decided to leave because the Council does not want us'
Rabbi Shalom Pelman, who leads acongregation in Guatemala's capital city, has denounced the move
[IMG]Rabbi Shalom Pelman, who leads acongregation in Guatemala's capital city, has denounced the move[/IMG]
Lev Tahor is a radical strain of Hassidic Judaism founded by Rabbi Shlomo Helbrans in Israel
The group was accused of going into stores and paying whatever they wanted for the products
People in the Guatemalan village said that they felt 'intimidated' by the highly-religious Jewish sect
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^Their obvious delusion may have something to do with their lack of likability.
The average YEAR-ROUND temperature of Jerusalem is a perfect ~72 degrees Fahrenheit. Someone please explain what Albinos in FUR hats and long Black coats have to do with Warm/Hot Israel.
Are Jews white?
An interesting discussion has been going on at Ta-Nehisi Coates' blog about whether Jews are white (Caucasian).
As an Ashkenazic Jew myself, I will offer my perspective after the jump, but I also wanted to poll Kossacks to find out the general perceptions here.
I've always identified as white, whenever people have asked. If someone wants to say, "No, you're not white, you're a Heeb, man," my reaction is going to be, "Okay, whatever."
But I've occasionally met fellow Ashkenazi Jews who do not consider themselves white. These people point out correctly that Jews were once considered nonwhite in the United States. Of course, the same was true for many European ethnicities, including Germans and Irish. (There's a book called How Jews Became White Folks, and another called How the Irish Became White.) This has far more to do with social status than with biology, but then that's always been the way race has worked in our society.
The thing is, as an Orthodox Jew, I find the question "Are Jews white?" rather silly. Jews, according to Judaism, are not a race nor a subset of a race. A Jew is traditionally defined as either one who has a Jewish mother, or a non-Jew who converts to Judaism. Thus, ancestry plays a strong role in Jewish identity, but it isn't the whole picture. Wikipedia describes Jews as an ethnoreligious group, a concept largely unknown in the West but not uncommon in other parts of the world.
There are in fact Jews of all races and colors. People of African and Asian descent have converted to Judaism, or have been adopted into Jewish families and raised as Jews. (I personally know several such individuals.) There are a few historical Jewish groups who are clearly nonwhite, most notably Beta Israel (Ethiopian), Bene Israel (Indian), and Kaifeng Jews (Chinese).
Still, those are exceptions. Most Jews in the world are divided into three broad groupings: Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi. Ashkenazim, those with a family history in Eastern and Central Europe, tend to be relatively lighter-complexioned on average than Sephardim and Mizrahim, and since they constitute the majority of Jews in the United States, they have dominated the popular American image of the Jew.
The term Mizrahi (literally "Oriental") is generally applied to Jews with a family history in the Middle East and North Africa. Sephardi is a confusing term. Strictly speaking, it is used to designate Jews with a family history in Spain or Portugal. In the late 1400s, Iberian Jews who refused to convert to Christianity were expelled from the peninsula and settled in various other countries throughout Europe, Asia, North Africa, and even the New World. Because they are so widespread, Sephardi has come to be used as a virtual synonym for "non-Ashkenazi." While this practice is not strictly accurate, it is pervasive in the media.
Some people perceive that Ashkenazim are white but Sephardim and Mizrahim are nonwhite. A while ago, the New York Times ran an article about the debate over Christopher Columbus's ethnic origins. When it came to the hypothesis that Columbus was Jewish or of Jewish descent, it made the following curious remark (this quote isn't in the online version of the article): "Most Jews in Southern Europe at the time were Sephardic Jews of North African descent, but preliminary analysis of Columbus's DNA suggests he was Caucasian."
This statement shows ignorance of the fact that genetic studies suggest a close kinship between Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews. And I have no idea where the author of this article got the idea that European Sephardim were of "North African descent."
The racial status of Jews ties into the racial status of Arabs and other Middle Eastern groups. Are Arabs white? According to census forms, they are. But in popular imagination, they are often distinguished from whites. Of course many Arabs show evidence of having a mixed racial background. But the same is true of Jews from the same countries. Yemenite Jews often look black or nearly black. Paula Abdul is partly of Syrian Jewish ancestry (the other part is Ashkenazi) and many people have incorrectly identified her as black.
Many anti-Zionists have seized upon the largely discredited Khazar hypothesis, which supposes that most Ashkenazim are descended from European converts, and therefore are more ethnically European than Middle Eastern. There's no question that Jews mixed to some degree with the native populations of the countries in which they settled, and European Jews are no exception, but the evidence suggests that overall Jews are still fundamentally a Middle Eastern people.
Jews and Arabs are in fact closely related, and in Israel, where the Jewish population is about half non-Ashkenazi, it is often hard to tell the two groups apart. Race may be an imprecise scientific concept, but as long as we're going to invoke racial classifications, we might as well try to be a little consistent. And classifying Jews as white but Arabs as nonwhite is the height of absurdity.
In sum, I don't care what race you consider Jews to be, if any, as long as you're consistent and show at least some knowledge and understanding of the complex history and social dynamics of the Jewish people.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Their obvious delusion may have something to do with their lack of likability.
Guatemala
The tropical climate zone encompasses areas between sea level and roughly 1,000 m (3,300 ft) of altitude. The climate of the lowlands is indeed tropical, i.e. hot and humid day and night, year round. Daytime temperatures can go as high as 40 C (100 F) and nighttime temperatures rarely drop below 20 C (70 F).
Someone please explain what Albinos in FUR hats and long Black coats have to do with Warm/Hot Israel or Guatemala.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Their obvious delusion may have something to do with their lack of likability.
Quote: Many anti-Zionists have seized upon the largely discredited Khazar hypothesis, which supposes that most Ashkenazim are descended from European converts, and therefore are more ethnically European than Middle Eastern. There's no question that Jews mixed to some degree with the native populations of the countries in which they settled, and European Jews are no exception, but the evidence suggests that overall Jews are still fundamentally a Middle Eastern people.
Jews and Arabs are in fact closely related, and in Israel, where the Jewish population is about half non-Ashkenazi, it is often hard to tell the two groups apart. Race may be an imprecise scientific concept, but as long as we're going to invoke racial classifications, we might as well try to be a little consistent. And classifying Jews as white but Arabs as nonwhite is the height of absurdity.[End Quote].
Of course Jews and "so-called Arabs" (the White and mulatto ones) are INDEED the same: They are BOTH ETHNICALLY TURKIC TRIBES!
Ultra-Orthodox Jews who moved from Canada to Guatemalan village to find 'religious freedom' are forced to leave because the locals don't like them Members of the Lev Tahor sect forced to flee from Guatemalan village Left Canada in March amid allegations of child abuse and forced marriages Elders at the San Juan La Laguna council voted to kick them out More than 230 people were expelled from their homes yesterday Radical strain of Hassidic Judaism was founded in 1980 by Rabbi Helbrans
109 Locations whence Jews have been Expelled since AD250
They are religious fundamentalists
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A community of Orthodox Jews have been expelled from their homes in a bitter conflict with hostile villagers. Just a few months after fleeing from Canada amid allegations of child abuse, members of the Lev Tahor community were forced to leave San Juan La Laguna in Guatemala yesterday. The village Elder's Council voted to kick them out because the group refused to greet or have physical contact with the community, according to a member of the council.
The village Elder's Council voted to kick them out because of growing tensions with locals
Lev Tahor is a radical strain of Hassidic Judaism that believes television and computers are bad and must be avoided. The group rejects the state of Israel because it views the Jews as a people who must remain in exile. Verbal abuse, threats to cut off power and eject them by force were the last straw for the Jews, some of whom have been there for six years.
They left Canada amid allegations of child abuse and suspicions they were carrying out underage marriage Misael Santos of the Lev Tahor community said: 'We decided to leave because the Council of Elders does not want us. 'It's sad to leave, and there are people who like us here because when we left there were people who cried.' Around 230 members of the Jewish community were living in the lakeside village, the majority moving over from Canada in March this year.
Rabbi Shalom Pelman, who leads the Chabad Lubavitch congregation in Guatemala's capital city, has denounced the move.
Verbal abuse, threats to cut off power and eject them by force were the last straw for the Jews
He said it is the type of activity that brings to mind the treatment of Jews in Nazi Germany. 'This is not typical in the world I live in. Even in Iran, Jews are not expelled,' he said. Miguel Vasquez Cholotio, a member of the elders' council, said the villagers decided to expel the group because they refused to greet or have physical contact with the community. 'We felt intimidated by them in the streets. We thought they wanted to change our religion and customs,' he said. Antonio Ixtamer, who lives in the community, said that several members of the group had upset residents because of their 'arrogant' attitude. He said they would go into stores and pay whatever they wanted for the products rather than the marked price and that they bothered tourists. 'On one occasion there was a tourist taking pictures of a hill and the Jews thought he was taking photos of them and they clashed,' Ixtamer said. Lev Tahor means 'Pure Heart' in Hebrew and the group practices an austere form of Judaism and believes that technological trappings such as television and computers must be avoided. It was founded by Rabbi Shlomo Helbrans in Israel and flourished after he moved the group to the U.S. in the early 1990s. The community, which believes the Jews must remain in exile, has won the admiration from some for its devoutness but others condemn it to cult-like sect.
It flourished and spread after Rabbi Helbrans moved the group to the U.S. in the early 1990s
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Lev Tahor
Lev Tahor (Hebrew: לב טהור - pure heart) is an ultra-Orthodox Jewish group headed by Shlomo Helbrans (born Erez Shlomo Elbarnes), known to follow an unusually austere form of Jewish practice in addition to being determinedly anti-Zionist. The group generally follows a strict version of halacha, or Orthodox Jewish law, in addition to its own unique practices--such as unusually lengthy prayer sessions, arranged marriages during teenage years, and black, head-to-toe coverings for women.[1] The group has moved frequently, with some of its members most recently being expelled from Guatemala town San Juan La Laguna after fleeing trouble with government authorities in Canada.[2]
Lev Tahor group believe that the state of Israel, as it now exists, has no spiritual validity. The group is sometimes called "Jewish Taliban" by the Israeli[11] Jewish[12] and international press
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Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Their obvious delusion may have something to do with their lack of likability.
Quote: Many anti-Zionists have seized upon the largely discredited Khazar hypothesis, which supposes that most Ashkenazim are descended from European converts, and therefore are more ethnically European than Middle Eastern. There's no question that Jews mixed to some degree with the native populations of the countries in which they settled, and European Jews are no exception, but the evidence suggests that overall Jews are still fundamentally a Middle Eastern people.
Jews and Arabs are in fact closely related, and in Israel, where the Jewish population is about half non-Ashkenazi, it is often hard to tell the two groups apart. Race may be an imprecise scientific concept, but as long as we're going to invoke racial classifications, we might as well try to be a little consistent. And classifying Jews as white but Arabs as nonwhite is the height of absurdity.[End Quote].
Of course Jews and "so-called Arabs" (the White and mulatto ones) are INDEED the same: They are BOTH ETHNICALLY TURKIC TRIBES!
Lies,lies and more lies.
Khazars Wiki:
The Khazars were a semi-nomadic Turkic people who created what for its duration was the most powerful polity to emerge from the breakup of the western Turkish steppe empire, known as the Khazar Khanate or Khazaria. Astride a major artery of commerce between northern Europe and southwestern Asia, Khazaria became one of the foremost trading emporia of the medieval world, commanding the western marches of the Silk Road and played a key commercial role as a crossroad between China, the Middle East, and European Russia. For some three centuries (c. 650965) the Khazars dominated the vast area extending from the Volga-Don steppes to the eastern Crimea and the northern Caucasus
Khazaria long served as a buffer state between the Byzantine empire and both the nomads of the northern steppes and the Umayyad empire, after serving as Byzantium's proxy against the Sassanid Persian empire. The alliance was dropped around 900. Byzantium began to encourage the Alans to attack Khazaria and weaken its hold on Crimea and the Caucasus, while seeking to obtain an entente with the rising Rus' power to the north, which it aspired to convert to Christianity. Between 965 and 969, the Kievan Rus ruler Sviatoslav I of Kiev conquered the capital Atil and destroyed the Khazar state.
Beginning in the 8th century, Khazar royalty and notable segments of the aristocracy converted to Judaism; the populace appears to have been multi-confessionala mosaic of pagan, Tengrist, Jewish, Christian and Muslim worshippersand polyethnic. A modern theory, that the core of Ashkenazi Jewry emerged from a hypothetical Khazarian Jewish diaspora, is now viewed with scepticism by most scholars, but occasionally supported by others. This Khazarian hypothesis is sometimes associated with antisemitism and anti-Zionism.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Their obvious delusion may have something to do with their lack of likability.
Someone please explain what Albinos in FUR hats and long Black coats have to do with Warm/Hot Israel or Guatemala.
Because they don't belong in Israel and the environment has rejected them.
The dark clothing serves to shield their pale, weak and frail bodies.
Israel's skin cancer rate second highest in the world The skin cancer rate in Israel is among the highest in the world, the Israel Cancer Association reported yesterday. At the end of 2000 there were 3,631 skin cancer patients in Israel and around 200 die every year from the disease.
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Native American Genocide
The American Indian Holocaust, known as the 500 year war and the Worlds Longest Holocaust In The History Of Mankind And Loss Of Human Lives.
Genocide and Denying It: Why We Are Not Taught that the Natives of the United States and Canada were Exterminated
Clearly those figures relate to the whole western Hemisphere, not just North America.
Also, those figures relate mostly to Black paleoamericans not Indians/Mongols who I believe aided the Europeans.
Indians are often full of sh1t, AND European admixture. Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Genocide in Australia
Report details crimes against Aborigines By Brett Stone 7 September 1999
The genocidal practices perpetrated against Australian Aborigines were the outcome of policies adopted and implemented by all Australian governments from British settlement in 1788 until the present. A people who had virtually no contact with the outside world, were suddenly confronted with a hostile and alien force. Aborigines were forced out of their traditional homes, hunted like wild animals, poisoned or shot, and confined to the harshest and most desolate climes. The effect of British settlement upon these people led to near extinction within 120 years.
The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies has published a report detailing this history. Entitled Genocide in Australia, it was written by Professor Colin Tatz, director of the Centre for Comparative Genocide Studies at Sydney's Macquarie University.
Nature avenges it's children! Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Revenge of Aten
Israel is second after Australia for occurences of malignant melanoma, according to the Health Ministry report covering 1998 to 2000. There are 14.8 cases of malignant melanoma in Israel per 100,000 men and 14.4 cases per 100,000 women. This is less than half the rate in Australia but higher than in North America, double the rate in the European Union and up to 14 times higher than on all other continents.
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Crow Native American
Amazon native Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. What happened?
Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation.
At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.
Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.
Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated.
While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and they said: Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.
The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.
In other words, they made this deal: We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.
Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain -- that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine -- should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war.
However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.
At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. And they were no good.
The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the United States got into the war.
Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany.
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^Things haven't changed much, Jews still dictate U.S. foreign policy. Oddly enough, now their main tool seems to be conservative Red-necks. Dumb and poor makes easy prey for Jewish money.
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Try to stay on topic, the Jewish group of this thread topic, the Lev Tahorsect are anti-Zionist and have nothing to do with U.S. or Israeli foreign policy
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Israels Anti-Black Program Is the Jewish state becoming Klan country?
I have just one thing to say to Abe Foxman, and all the self-appointed Jewish "leaders" who arrogate to themselves the prerogative of vetting US government officials when are you going to start vetting Israeli government officials as they whip up racist hysteria and carry out an anti-African pogrom?
I can answer this question for myself, because the answer is: never. It isnt considered kosher to air the Jewish states dirty laundry in public. There is a big problem with this strategy, however: sooner or later the stench gets so bad that one cant help but smell it.
Of course the precedent for all this is the virulent anti-Arab racism now pervasive in Israeli society, as a recent survey showed. To take just one rather vivid example: the Beitar football team has become a rallying point for swarming ultra-nationalist thugs, who beat up Israeli Arabs and engage in regular provocations against anyone deemed "alien" to the Jewish character of the state. In March of last year hundreds of them went on a rampage at a shopping mall in Jerusalem, beating Arab men, women, and children, and destroying Arab stores. Not a single arrest was made, nor was anybody charged. Its open season on non-Jews in Israel, and no one should be surprised that blacks are now the target.
Its the worlds problem? No, it isnt. The hate that is erupting in the Jewish state is a Jewish problem, one that has yet to be acknowledged, let alone confronted, by Jewish leaders worldwide. I have not heard a single word about this from the so-called "Anti-Defamation League," and its usually vociferous chief honcho, Abe Foxman, who seems to have an opinion about anything and everything, but is strangely silent on the defamation of Africans in Israel. As blacks in Israel find themselves beset by racist mobs, where is the American Jewish Committee, and all the other organizations that were important allies of the early black civil rights movement in this country where are they now that the Bull Connors and the George Wallaces are Israeli?
How will members of the congressional Black Caucus justify voting for billions in aid to Israel in the face of live news reports of howling Israeli mobs screaming hatred for Africans? Can the country that elected Barack Obama continue to have a "special relationship" with a nation that has turned into the Middle East equivalent of Klan Kountry? I think not.
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^The Jews are at odds with Obama because he see's through the facade, and does not give them free reign to do as they please with U.S. money and weapons.
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Really Mike? "At odds with Obama". I was hoping his adminstration would make a difference....
@ Namerthoth. That is an fascinating piece on World War I. I can't ask for sources because there may be different ones?
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Regarding Barack Obama: LOL, I told ya'll to cast your vote for Cynthia McKenny in the Green Party. America's Democratic & GOP party are two sides of the same coin. Nothing will ever change when either is elected.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Jews still dictate U.S. foreign policy.
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^The Jews are at odds with Obama because he see's through the facade, and does not give them free reign to do as they please with U.S. money and weapons. [/QB]
make up your mind
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U.S. and Iran Unlikely Allies in Iraq Battle By TIM ARANGO and AZAM AHMEDAUG. 31, 2014
BAGHDAD With American bombs raining down from the sky, Shiite militia fighters aligned with Iran battled Sunni extremists over the weekend, punching through their defenses to break the weekslong siege of Amerli, a cluster of farming villages whose Shiite residents faced possible slaughter.
The fight in northern Iraq appeared to be the first time American warplanes and militias backed by Iran had worked with a common purpose on a battlefield against militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, even though the Obama administration said there was no direct coordination with the militias.
Should such military actions continue, they could signal a dramatic shift for the United States and Iran, which have long vied for control in Iraq. They could also align the interests of the Americans with their longtime sworn enemies in the Shiite militias, whose fighters killed many United States soldiers during the long occupation of Iraq.
ISIS Displaying a Deft Command of Varied MediaAUG. 30, 2014 U.S. Strikes Militants Besieging Turkmen in IraqAUG. 30, 2014 For Refugees on Mountain, No Water, NothingAUG. 9, 2014 Military Skill and Terrorist Technique Fuel Success of ISISAUG. 27, 2014 Times Topic: Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) The latest expansion of American military operations reflects how seriously Iraq has deteriorated since the withdrawal of American forces in 2011. But any decision to support the Shiite militias, who have proven more adept than the American-trained Iraqi Army, would come with its own set of challenges.
The militants from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria were able to storm into Iraq in recent months in part because Sunnis felt so disenfranchised by the Shiite-led government of former Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. If the United States is seen to be strengthening the hand of militias that terrorized Sunnis during the sectarian war of 2006 and 2007, the minority Sunnis might balk at participating in Americas long-term goal of a unity government.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Really Mike? "At odds with Obama". I was hoping his adminstration would make a difference....
@ Namerthoth. That is an fascinating piece on World War I. I can't ask for sources because there may be different ones?
US to review Israeli weapons orders #InsideIsrael
The White House and State Department were apparently not aware of the number of weapons being transferred to Israel via the Pentagon.
Media reports are emerging this morning saying that the White House has instructed the US military and the Pentagon to hold off on the transfer of Hellfire missiles to Israel that the country ordered during Operation Protective Edge.
White House and State Department officials are apparently reviewing each request for US weapons on an individual basis rather than just allowing bulk orders via military channels only.
The Israeli ambassador to the US, Ron Dermer, is apparently denying this, but media outlets such as the Wall Street Journal and Haaretz continue to report it.
The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the discovery last month that the Israeli army had been securing arms supplies from the Pentagon, without the approval of the White House or State Department, caught them off guard.
Since the discovery, the US government has tightened its controls on weapons being exported to the state of Israel. Israeli and American officials seem to be taking this incident as evidence of how little power the White House actually has over the Israeli state and Prime Minister.
Analysts interpret this as a weakening of ties between the two countries, or at least a weakening of America's influence over Israel. Although John Kerry made several trips to Israel during the Israel-Gaza crisis, the US has not been directly involved in the current round of truce negotiations in Cairo as the talks are being mediated by Egypt.
According to the Wall Street Journal, President Obama is said to have had "a particularly combative phone call on Wednesday with Mr. Netanyahu, who they say has pushed the administration aside but wants it to provide Israel with security assurances in exchange for signing onto a long-term deal."
All around the world the Jews are causing trouble and wars. Syria is all about Israel & their long term plan/security. They also want the US to war with Iran. Israel & the Neo-cons have totally demolished Iraq and they will take 100 years to recover.
Israel steps up it's anti-arab/Anti-African agenda and are so much in control of the US, they don't even bother to mask their aggression. The thieves used Hamas as the excuse to start a new massive land grab.
In Russia, Putin has aggressively put down the Jews in control of the Ukraine and side stepped the US Jewish opposition to his actions. Now US Jews are complaining to Obama to arm the Ukrainians so they can fight against Russia.
ALl these above agendas are taking money from the US taxpayer to fund their efforts. Total it all up and it amounts to 100s of billions of US taxpayer dollars.
The US Congress and Senate is badly in need of a massive enema to cleanse out those who have been long termed influenced by Israel and US Jew Bribe money. Not surprising, the bribe money comes out of the pockets of US taxpayers too. Every American needs to vote these clowns out and cast their votes for any party other than the Dem/repub parties for congress/senate.
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quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Every American needs to vote these clowns out and cast their votes for any party other than the Dem/repub parties for congress/senate. [/QB]
what independant political parties do you recommend?
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ISIS- Democrates Al Qaeda - republicans
Keep the boogeyman alive
The games continue...
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: ISIS- Democrates Al Qaeda - republicans
Keep the boogeyman alive The games continue...
Simplifying how you look at a problem, does not make the problem simple.
If you think what they want to do to you is a hoax, ask the Malians about it.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Every American needs to vote these clowns out and cast their votes for any party other than the Dem/repub parties for congress/senate.
what independant political parties do you recommend? [/QB]
It doesn't matter. If more Americans voted for 2, 3 or more 3rd party candidates, and they all got 5% or more of the vote, then they'd become legitimate candidates and have to be included in the debates, as well as receive Federal campaign contributions. More choices are better than two.
This would serve notice to the Dems/RePubs that the game has changed at that the days of a two party system is over.
Right now I vote Green.
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111:
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: ISIS- Democrates Al Qaeda - republicans
Keep the boogeyman alive The games continue...
Simplifying how you look at a problem, does not make the problem simple.
If you think what they want to do to you is a hoax, ask the Malians about it.
Nineteen Eighty-Four, sometimes published as 1984, is a dystopian novel by George Orwell published in 1949.[1][2] The novel is set in Airstrip One (formerly known as Great Britain), a province of the superstate Oceania in a world of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, and public manipulation, dictated by a political system euphemistically named English Socialism (or Ingsoc in the government's invented language, Newspeak) under the control of a privileged Inner Party elite that persecutes all individualism and independent thinking as "thoughtcrimes".[3]
The tyranny is epitomized by Big Brother, the quasi-divine Party leader who enjoys an intense cult of personality, but who may not even exist. Big Brother and the Party justify their oppressive rule in the name of a supposed greater good.[1] The protagonist of the novel, Winston Smith, is a member of the Outer Party who works for the Ministry of Truth (or Minitrue), which is responsible for propaganda and historical revisionism. His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles so that the historical record always supports the current party line.[4] Smith is a diligent and skillful worker, but he secretly hates the Party and dreams of rebellion against Big Brother.
As literary political fiction and dystopian science-fiction, Nineteen Eighty-Four is a classic novel in content, plot, and style. Many of its terms and concepts, such as Big Brother, doublethink, thoughtcrime, Newspeak, Room 101, Telescreen, 2 + 2 = 5, and memory hole, have entered everyday use since its publication in 1949. Moreover, Nineteen Eighty-Four popularised the adjective Orwellian, which describes official deception, secret surveillance, and manipulation of the past by a totalitarian or authoritarian state.[4] In 2005, the novel was chosen by TIME magazine as one of the 100 best English-language novels from 1923 to 2005.[5] It was awarded a place on both lists of Modern Library 100 Best Novels, reaching number 13 on the editor's list, and 6 on the readers' list.[6] In 2003, the novel was listed at number 8 on the BBC's survey The Big Read.[7]
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Every American needs to vote these clowns out and cast their votes for any party other than the Dem/repub parties for congress/senate.
what independant political parties do you recommend?
It doesn't matter. If more Americans voted for 2, 3 or more 3rd party candidates, and they all got 5% or more of the vote, then they'd become legitimate candidates and have to be included in the debates, as well as receive Federal campaign contributions. More choices are better than two.
This would serve notice to the Dems/RePubs that the game has changed at that the days of a two party system is over.
Right now I vote Green.
How can one believe you are mentally stable when according to you albinos are too stupid to allow them doing genetic experimenation and Jews are evil Yet the last presidential candidate of the Green Party was this "sulphur brained albino Jewess", Jill Stein
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ America has always an will always be, the lesser of two evils. The lady above is 10x better than Hillary Clinton. Plus the Green party has McKenny who is 100x better than Clinton and 10x better than Obama.
Even your Sulphur brain should understand compromise.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ America has always an will always be, the lesser of two evils.
lesser of what two evils?
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
Are you an British Malian African transplant Mike?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^Your question supposes that only a Brit can see the British point of view:
That only a Malian can see the Mali point of view:
That only an African can see the African point of view:
As shocking as it may seem to you, there are people whose minds are not that limited.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ America has always an will always be, the lesser of two evils.
lesser of what two evils?
Politically.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by xyyman: Are you an British Malian African transplant Mike?
Mike is not African at all He's original Black celtic, I've seen his DNA results
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ America has always an will always be, the lesser of two evils.
lesser of what two evils?
Politically.
If the Green Party knew your views on white people and Jewish white people they would not want you as a member, to put it mildly
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
understood...
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ^Your question supposes that only a Brit can see the British point of view:
That only a Malian can see the Mali point of view:
That only an African can see the African point of view:
As shocking as it may seem to you, there are people whose minds are not that limited.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ America has always an will always be, the lesser of two evils.
lesser of what two evils?
Politically.
If the Green Party knew your views on white people and Jewish white people they would not want you as a member, to put it mildly
You are speaking out of your fat lumpy ass again.
Cynthia McKenny knows very well the thought processes of African American males. She also has first hand experience of the social/political manipulation of African Americans by Whites/Jews.
LOL, at this point, so does Obama, but McKenny is much stronger than Obama.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
McKinney announced in April 2012 that she would run for the 4th congressional district against Hank Johnson on the Green Party ticket. However, in August she failed to qualify for the ballot. Nevertheless, she received 58 write-in votes in the general election
She is prportedly working in Venezuelan media these days
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Cynthia Ann McKinney (born March 17, 1955) is an American politician and activist. As a member of the Democratic Party, she served six terms in the United States House of Representatives. In 2008, the Green Party of the United States nominated McKinney for President of the United States. She was the first African-American woman to represent Georgia in the House.
In the 1992 election, McKinney was elected in the newly re-created 11th District, and was re-elected in 1994. When her district was redrawn and renumbered due to the Supreme Court of the United States ruling in Miller v. Johnson, McKinney was easily elected from the new 4th District in the 1996 election, and was re-elected twice without substantive opposition.
McKinney was defeated by Denise Majette in the 2002 Democratic primary. Some people believe she was defeated because of Republican crossover voting in Georgia's open primary election, which permits anyone from any party to vote in any party primary and "usually rewards moderate candidates and penalizes those outside the mainstream." USA Today concluded that
McKinney's loss was a rejection by voters in both parties of her controversial profile, which included support for Arab causes and a suggestion that Bush knew in advance of the Sept. 11 attacks. An inflammatory remark by her father on an Atlanta TV broadcast Monday may have been the final blow. State Rep. Billy McKinney said his daughter's tough fight was because "Jews have bought everybody. Jews. J-e-w-s.""
After her 2002 loss, McKinney traveled and gave speeches, and served as a Commissioner in The Citizens' Commission on 9-11. On October 26, 2004, she was among 100 Americans and 40 family members of those who were killed on 9/11 who signed the 9/11 Truth Movement statement, calling for new investigations into unexplained aspects of the 9/11 events. McKinney was re-elected to the House in November 2004, following her successor's run for Senate. In Congress, she advocated unsealing records pertaining to the CIA's role in assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., and the murder of Tupac Shakur and continued to criticize the Bush Administration over the 9/11 attacks. She supported anti-war legislation and introduced articles of impeachment against President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.
She was defeated by Hank Johnson in the 2006 Democratic primary, after finding herself in the national spotlight again over the March 29, 2006, Capitol Hill police incident, where she struck a Capitol Hill Police officer for stopping her to ask for identification. She left the Democratic Party in September 2007.
Clearly Negroes are powerless to protect their leaders who dare to "tell it like they see it". Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Marion Shepilov Barry, Jr. (born March 6, 1936) is an American politician who served as the second elected Mayor of the District of Columbia from 1979 to 1991, and again as the fourth Mayor from 1995 to 1999. He has been a member of the Council of the District of Columbia, representing Washington, D.C.'s Ward 8, since 2005. A Democrat, Barry previously served two other tenures on the DC Council, as an at-large member from 1975 to 1979 and as Ward 8 representative from 1993 to 1995. In the 1960s, he was involved in the African-American Civil Rights Movement, serving as the first chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).
Barry came to national prominence as mayor of the national capital, the first prominent civil-rights activist to become chief executive of a major American city; he gave the presidential nomination speech for Jesse Jackson at the 1984 Democratic National Convention. His celebrity transformed into international notoriety in January 1990, when Barry was videotaped smoking crack cocaine and arrested by FBI officials on drug charges. The arrest and subsequent trial precluded Barry seeking re-election, and Barry served six months in a federal prison. After his release, however, he was elected to the DC city council in 1992 and ultimately returned to the mayoralty in 1994, serving from 1995 to 1999.
Despite his history of political and legal controversies, Barry remains a popular and influential figure in the local political scene of Washington, D.C. The alternative weekly Washington City Paper nicknamed him "Mayor for life," a designation that remained long after Barry left the mayoralty. The Washington Post has stated that "to understand the District of Columbia, one must understand Marion Barry."
But Negroes have "No trouble at all, protecting Drug addicted criminals" who just happen to be their leaders too. Seems very-you-know-who to me. Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ In her Green party Presidential bid, she said that if elected she would;
1. Cut military budget by 75% 2. Cut all funding to Israel/Egypt/Saudi 3. Cut all subsidies to Oil/Power/etc. 4. Enact free higher education 5. Raise living wage 6. Enact full social health care
What's there not to like about that.
The key issue is Green winning 5% of the vote which would then allow the party in the Presidential debates.
Could you imagine McKenny included in the Obama/McCain, Obama/Romney debates and it's impact on voter response?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^She may have been ahead of her time.
Even now, Red-necks still have a hard time believing that the White rich is not really on their side. Unfortunately those ignorant ass-holes are necessary for any peoples movement.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
McKinney Scares Denise Majette Out of House Seat Taken in 2002 Answers Questions About Her Campaign -- in which 9/11 Will Not be Forgotten
Wayne Madsen
April 5, 2004, 1800 PDT (FTW) -- Cynthia McKinney, the lightning rod former five-term representative from Georgia's 4th District, is making a political comeback after being defeated by Republican-turned-Democrat Denise Majette in the 2002 Democratic primary. Majette's win, as documented by records filed by McKinney in an ongoing Georgia court case was secured as an estimated 43,000 Republican voters crossed over to vote (illegally as alleged by McKinney) as Democrats. As documented by the Washington Post and the Atlanta Journal Constitution, much of the funding for the effort was provided by the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee or AIPAC, which had long opposed McKinney for her criticism of Israeli policy regarding Palestinians in the occupied territories.
On March 29, McKinney announced that she would run for her old seat. The following day Majette, a one-term congresswoman with no legislative record, announced that she would run for the US Senate seat being vacated by Georgia's Zell Miller who is retiring. The local papers and experienced politicians quickly realized that Majette, who must vacate her House seat to do this, had a zero probability of winning. It appeared to all that Majette was running from a newly energized McKinney and a 4th District constituency who had some bones to pick. In fact, local TV accounts of Majette's press conference showed Majette losing it when asked if she was running away from McKinney.
A well-known champion of human and civil rights in the United States and abroad, McKinney shook political Washington in April 2002 when she suggested that the Bush administration knew much more about pre-911 intelligence than it was letting on. She was immediately pounced upon by Republicans and Democrats alike, with many calling her "loony" and "unpatriotic." By the time of the August 2002 primary, Denise Majette Republican loyalist, supporter of Alan Keyes, and Georgia state judge had switched parties. She successfully took on McKinney in the Democratic primary with the help of the GOP cross-over votes and large amounts of out-of-state money. Majette eventually won the general election in a district which has never sent a Republican to the House.
Fourth District voters cried foul and challenged the election in court.
On April 9th the Atlanta Jewish Times Posted an article on how the Jewish Community "worked tirelessly to elect Democratic US Rep. Denise Majette to office in 2002."
Quote:
It is a sentiment that has echoed widely in the days since March 29, when Majette amazed even her own staff in announcing her intention to run.
Among her many Jewish supporters, some have expressed anger, disappointment and confusion over her decision.
Im surprised, said Larry Cooper, an oncologist who helped raise funds for Majette during her successful 2002 campaign to unseat 10-year Democratic Rep. Cynthia McKinney. I frequently talk to her. I had no hint that this was coming down the pike.
Im in shock, added Steven Wertheim, an orthopedist who along with his wife Melinda hosted several fundraisers for Majette at their home in 2002. I was given no advance notice.
Wertheim, who calls Majettes decision an obvious misstep, says people who this year have contributed money to what they believed would be her 2004 House re-election bid may now ask Majette for their money back.
I think there will be a lot of people who do so, he said.
Knowledgeable sources confirm that some Jewish supporters have already called Majettes 4th District congressional office in Decatur demanding their money back.
Answering their concern, Majette told The Jewish Times, It was not my intention to deceive anyone. I have honored my commitments. I have addressed Jewish concerns.
Those who supported me will continue to have a voice in the Senate, she continued. I hope they will give me the opportunity to serve [there].
Did I read that right? Apparently we have confirmation that Denise Majette was bought by the Jewish Lobby.
Some one needs to make a poster quick. Denise Majettes face with a big Negro for Sale sign on it.
On March 28, 2014, the Georgia Supreme Court disbarred Majette, finding she overbilled clients and misled the Court about how much she was owed in fees. Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
Wow Some Jews are downright lowdown humans man.
Always supported Mrs. McKinney, I try to keep ethnicity out of my posts but how the Jews manipulate and rob people and Buy others to serve there purpose just boggles the mind.
I use to be a supporter of Israel, but since I have learned how Its hold on USA and how brainwashingly, USA gives to this country, and how I posted in a later thread how they mistreat Africans and The Beta Israel, I just don't know.
Im not a hater, nor am I a person that can be bought or be coerced to speak highly of people doing evil. I want to see how Jewish people would do on fair grounds.
How does jews hold so much power over The states??
I also wonder how would Israel do without the weapons and money from America.
There are many good Jewish people, but the things I read just makes me shake my head. Money, The root of all evil is being peddled to people and people compromise there own views to serve mammon.
Sad man
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^KING and others, has it never occurred to you to ask: if Khazar Jews were so hated and ill treated in Germany, why did they have so much of the countries wealth at a time when Germany was starving?
Hitler picked on the Khazar Jews because that's where the money was, and he was intent on taking that wealth to finance his war. If Jews had been poor, he and everybody else would ignore them as superstitious cultists.
The real question to ask about Khazar Jews, is what kind of people will dedicate their lives to the accumulation of wealth at all costs?
Most or all of us like money, certainly in modern life we all NEED money. Yet we set strict limits on what we will do for money, both privately and socially. This leaves a large area unattended, which the Khazar Jew fills because he sets no such limits.
Ultimately, does the Khazar Jew serve a worthwhile purpose or not? I really don't know, but his attempts at manipulating the politics and actions of others, can only be seen as a very dangerous thing.
BTW, for the hopelessly stupid, you will find no like behavior in writings concerning Hebrews. This love of money is something the Khazar Turks brought with them, it is not a Hebrew thing.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Who is a bigger problem for blacks Jews or non-Jewish white people?
pick one please and then explain your answer
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Jews have a culture of reading books and that's putting it mildly. When you have such a culture you learn more an have more opportunities.
Blacks in America by contrast have a music oriented culture. That's what I grew up in.
Black people would naturally read more but Jews force us to like music more.
There's nothing we can do about it. We're helpless babies, tots relatively speaking as long as the Jews are around.
As long as Jews tell us to like music more than books we'll like music more and they can make money off our music.
The solution is kill the Jews or deport them. I know it sounds extreme but hear me out.
We'll still be left with a white majority but with the Jews gone regular white people will be more supportive and encourage us to read more
If Hitler had only have won the war it would have been so much better for black people
real talk, heil Hitler
Posted by xyyman (Member # 13597) on :
^ "we" SMH.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Yeah!
"It" tries really hard to appear human.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: Jews have a culture of reading books and that's putting it mildly. When you have such a culture you learn more an have more opportunities.
Blacks in America by contrast have a music oriented culture. That's what I grew up in.
Black people would naturally read more but Jews force us to like music more.
There's nothing we can do about it. We're helpless babies, tots relatively speaking as long as the Jews are around.
As long as Jews tell us to like music more than books we'll like music more and they can make money off our music.
The solution is kill the Jews or deport them. I know it sounds extreme but hear me out.
We'll still be left with a white majority but with the Jews gone regular white people will be more supportive and encourage us to read more
If Hitler had only have won the war it would have been so much better for black people
real talk, heil Hitler
My,my,my:
It's bad enough to be a moral degenerate twice-over: once as a regular Albino, and once as a regular Albino trolling as a Black female. But to compound that with stupidity, well, you are like no other!
Shanghai teens top international education ranking, OECD says!
When it comes to mathematics, reading and science, young people in Shanghai are the best in the world, according to a global education survey released Tuesday.
In all three subjects, Shanghai students demonstrated knowledge and skills equivalent to at least one additional year of schooling than their peers in countries like the United States, Germany and the United Kingdom.
1. Being frugal is a virtue - Being frugal did not start as communist propaganda. Actually it is a concept that has been taught for thousands of years. The classic Chinese text Dao De Jing states that the three greatest treasures one can have are love, frugality, and generosity. Frugality is really a integral part of the Chinese culture
2. Save as much as possible - The personal savings rate in China is incredibly high compared to the United States. According to this 2006 CNN article , the personal savings rate of Chinese households is 30% while Americans dipped into their savings that year. I know that my Chinese relatives regularly save 50 to 60% of their income and it feels normal to me that I save as much as them.
3. Pay for things in cash - Credit cards are still fairly rare in China and most people pay for everything in cash. What really impressed me is that many ordinary Chinese people were able to pay cash for their homes when the government allowed homeownership recently. The houses are not cheap, and it is amazing to see teachers and factory workers pull out savings equivalent to ten to twenty times of their regular salaries. Chinese people are wary of debt, and I think that is a good thing.
Apparently love of education has nothing to do with it.
So why are Khazar Jews so rich again? Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
^What, you have no answer???
Well, though I have never researched it, nor intend to, Jews are simply not very interesting to me.
Anecdotally; it appears to me that the Khazar Jews interest in education and wealth is mainly as a means to secure access to the "RULING" classes.
I have heard some others say that the Khazar Jews ultimate purpose is to rule over all others. Well, their behavior seems to bear that out. And if that is the case, then what silly people they are: once for wanting to do it, and once for thinking that they "COULD" do it.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ I was thinking of your comment on why Africa has no well written records or monuments of it's past achievements. Then I took a look at Chinese culture in the same context and see the opposite with many thousand year old monuments and many thousands of ancient texts on thousands of different ancient topics.
China was obviously alerted to possible invasion by European Albinos early in their history and that can be verified by the early building of the Great Wall of China meant to block entry to these same European barbarians. The significance of the Great Wall was one of national pride and not just regional. It was one of many elements of Chinese society that helped create a unified national agenda and this unification is key to why the Europeans were unsuccessful in invading China and completely demolishing it as they succeeded in doing in Africa. In fact, the Europeans did achieve a limited success in penetrating China and Japan, and had begun to carve each region up as they did extensively in Africa. However, once again China's unification saved them from the total destruction as done in Africa with their fractured and ultra fragmented continental outlook.
So, based on observation, while China was able to resist total invasion and by resisting, were able to preserve their ancient legacies serving to illustrate their ancient cultural achievements, Africa, due to it's inability to unify the continent was not able to resist and ultimately, all their ancient legacies were either stolen or destroyed.
In each instance, the invasions of both China and Africa began with Khazar Jewish merchants and Jesuits visiting the countries under the pretence of doing business, while in the background acting as agents to collect data to formulate strategies for total conquest. The strategy still works well even today, and even today Africans are helpless because the still don't understand they to truly resist they need to truly unify the continent. It's amazing to me that even the "educated" Africans on the site possess regional (Tribal) loyalty first, and African pride in name only.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
I don't see what your point is about China
With some exceptions they lack somewhat in innovations on a relative basis but this may change, They had had long periods of conservative cultural trends before the revolution which stagnated technological innovations they had accomplished earlier
Soon however, they will have a larger economy then the United States? They are also militarily formidable. They have many millionaires and billionaires
The China example bolsters my point rather than yours
They are studious in school and therefore have undergone an astonishingly rapid economic, industrial development and putting out more science graduates
you're helping me now
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ You don't get it because your Sulphur mind processes data differently.
The key points of your post are; Technology, Military, million/billionaires. Typical albino prioritizations in the thought process. But that's OK. You weren't meant to get it.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by the lioness,: I don't see what your point is about China
With some exceptions they lack somewhat in innovations on a relative basis but this may change, They had had long periods of conservative cultural trends before the revolution which stagnated technological innovations they had accomplished earlier
Soon however, they will have a larger economy then the United States? They are also militarily formidable. They have many millionaires and billionaires
The China example bolsters my point rather than yours
They are studious in school and therefore have undergone an astonishingly rapid economic, industrial development and putting out more science graduates
you're helping me now
Either you are incredibly stupid or a Jewish liar (the bigger the lie, the better).
Ass-hole, China's current boom is to REPAIR damage done by the Albinos and the Japanese you idiot.
China had been an educational, economic, and industrial power for millennia - idiot!
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ "It" acts as if it doesn't know that China has been supplying the US markets with all of it's good since the 1950s. It asks about innovation while failing to acknowledge that it's iPhone & iPad and 95% of all other computers and phones are manufactured in China.
Perhaps it really is unaware that NASA's next generation space craft engine was conceived by the Chinese. It must also be ignorant that most of the leading edge genetics advances are coming out of China & Japan also.
What a dunce thing it is!
Posted by Child Of The KING (Member # 9422) on :
Chinese have always been innovative,
They excel in Anything that makes tech,learning etc.
Many people can learn from them how to keep money, and build your community.
I don't know about Jews though, they seem to use underhanded schemes to make and hord wealth.
Jews are being expelled because of their retarded Ego and self importance.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
The Chinese are nothing but a bunch of child & animal murderers sending contaminated food, pet food, pet treats & toys to the US for our children & pets. How many babies & children have gotten sick & died from contaminated toys & food imported from China? How many dogs & cats have lost their lives due to contaminated pet food brought in from China or ingredients brought in from China? Anyhow I support the South Amerindian tribe in their quest to rid themselves of the Jews in their midst, its their land. Looks like its 110 places the Jews have been expelled from now LOL ROTFLMBO.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ Doxie
Lose the hate and instead, fill your heart up with Love, Hope and faith. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to hate. The brain consumes a tremendous amount of energy. I'll bet if you loved more and hated less you'd become smarter as well.
China can't send contaminated foods or products to the US unless the US somehow allows it. My guess is that Republicans probably got the quality inspection rules changed so that they wouldn't have to spend as much money testing imported goods. They probably took the excess money and stuffed it in their pockets at the expense of consumer safety. Imported goods. All imported goods are subject to inspection and testing. Whichever American accepted those defective goods would be the one at fault. A few years ago Republicans changed the quality laws on Canned foods. It used to be that all canned foods could not have more than 20ppm of foreign (dirt, insect and rodent parts, leaves, etc.) material. The Republicans changed the law by increasing that to over 2 magnitudes. So, today all canned foods can have up to 2000ppm foreign material. This is likely what happened to inspecting imported goods, not just from China, but Brazil, South America, New Zealand, and other import suppliers.
As far as Dogs & Cats. Well, the world is filled with dogs and cats and the Asians say that they taste quite good. Maybe eating dogs & cats is the reason why Asian Albinos are more sane than European and American albinos. If it were me, I'd think it was worth the shot.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
people here are ranting on China, freestyling, talking a lot of shyt olde bitter geezers don't know it's 2014
China, big on pollution, with few legal restrictions, is the largest producer of carbon emissions in the world, many cities are covered in thick smog
Workers have no rights in China.
In a very short period of time China now has more millionaires, than any country but the U.S. Not necessarily a bad thing yet China has the widest income gap in the world,
China has been caught numerous times exporting toxic products,
The Chinese government is a one party system that supresses dissent, censors internet access and has no equivalent to a bill of rights.
They are now second only to the U.S. in obesity and are big cigaette smokers.
They invaded Tibet in 1950, killing, raping and perpetarting a cultural genocide. As Clyde pointed out they oppress many ethnic minorities.
They are a large nation with a long history of bloody fuedal wars.
This is the negative side of China, education for the ignorant
There are also many postive aspects. The are industrious and have a refined cultural history, arts and philosphical tradition and some important technological innovations They underwent a period of technological stagnation under the Ming and Qing dynasties
Don't believe me? Look any of these facts up before you act like you know
Be like the Jews and Chinese, do a little reading and fact checking before you chirp and squeek
Apr 29, 2014 ... The income gap between China's haves and have-nots has surpassed that of the US and is among the wid
The income gap between China's haves and have-nots has surpassed that of the US and is among the widest in the world, according to a report.
A common gauge of income inequality almost doubled in China between 1980 and 2010 and now highlights a "severe" disparity, according to researchers at the University of Michigan.
The widening gap between the rich and the poor could fuel social instability in the world's most populous nation at a time when economic growth has slowed.
Social unrest could turn the clock back on Beijing's plan to reform the world's second-largest economy -- the Chinese government engineered the growth slowdown to below 8% to deal with credit risks, and pollution that has stifled the nation's biggest cities.
Gini Coefficient
Using data from six surveys conducted by five universities in China, the University of Michigan researchers worked out a measure of income inequality, the Gini coefficient, and compared it to previous estimates.
In 2010, the Gini coefficient for family income in China was about 0.55 compared with 0.45 in the US. In 1980, the gauge in China was 0.30.
A coefficient of 0.5 or higher indicates a severe gap between the rich and poor, according to the report, which also said Beijing stopped publishing the data in 2000 when the gauge hit 0.41.
A reading of zero suggests all income is evenly distributed and 1 represents complete concentration.
Beijing's policies that favour urban over rural residents and coastal over inland regions had contributed to the growing divide between the rich and the poor in China, the report found.
The University of Michigan study will be published online this week in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, Bloomberg reported.
"Since the 1980s, the rise of income inequality has been far more dramatic in China than in the US," the researchers wrote.
"Chinese recognise income inequality as a serious social problem; on the other hand, they seem to have high tolerance for income inequality," said co-author Yu Xie, a sociology professor and a researcher with the university's Institute for Social Research.
"They don't like it, but they seem to accept it as a fact of life. Something they have to pay for fast economic growth," Yu told Bloomberg.
Labour Unrest
Chinese shoe supplier Yue Yuen Industrial, which manufactures shoes for Adidas, Nike and Converse, has said that a labour dispute, which began earlier in the month with thousands of workers walking off their jobs, will cost it nearly $60m initially.
The Yue Yuen unrest is the latest occurrence of industrial activism that has emerged just as growth in the world's biggest developing economy has slowed.
Last week, President Xi Jinping warned against emerging threats to social stability and national security, after 28 people were killed and 113 wounded in a mass stabbing at one of China's busiest railway stations in March -- the Kunming train station in China's southwestern Yunnan province.
Growing Millionaires
China is adding more millionaires than any other emerging economy, according to a 2013 Asia-Pacific Wealth Report by Capgemini and RBC Wealth Management.
The report pegged their number at 643,000, up 14.3% on 2012.
Meanwhile, the official estimate for the income gap in 2013 was about the same as in 2012, with the statistics bureau putting out a Gini coefficient of 0.473 for 2013, after 0.474 the preceding year. The UN has said that a level above 0.4 is a forecaster of social unrest.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ LOL! You Mad.....
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Namerthoth - Ordinarily this troll should never be engaged, but when it is, and it starts posting non-sequitur troll material, then the best thing to do is to simple move on. After a while, the troll will get tired of posting to itself.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Namerthoth - Ordinarily this troll should never be engaged, but when it is, and it starts posting non-sequitur troll material, then the best thing to do is to simple move on. After a while, the troll will get tired of posting to itself.
be quiet
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: starts posting non-sequitur troll material,
In Mike's worl, " non-sequitur" means information that exposes his lies
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Chinese Money Habits.
1. Being frugal is a virtue - Being frugal did not start as communist propaganda. Actually it is a concept that has been taught for thousands of years. The classic Chinese text Dao De Jing states that the three greatest treasures one can have are love, frugality, and generosity. Frugality is really a integral part of the Chinese culture
2. Save as much as possible - The personal savings rate in China is incredibly high compared to the United States. According to this 2006 CNN article , the personal savings rate of Chinese households is 30% while Americans dipped into their savings that year. I know that my Chinese relatives regularly save 50 to 60% of their income and it feels normal to me that I save as much as them.
3. Pay for things in cash - Credit cards are still fairly rare in China and most people pay for everything in cash. What really impressed me is that many ordinary Chinese people were able to pay cash for their homes when the government allowed homeownership recently. The houses are not cheap, and it is amazing to see teachers and factory workers pull out savings equivalent to ten to twenty times of their regular salaries. Chinese people are wary of debt, and I think that is a good thing.
what's your point, the Jews are frugal like the Chinese ?
you have a lot of half baked remarks, innuendo where the intent is not clear
Chinese and Jews are frugal, probably true but now all of the sudden, the Chinese rapid technological development has nothing to do with education ?? Stop being blindingly stupid
thanks, lioness
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Doxie
Lose the hate and instead, fill your heart up with Love, Hope and faith. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to hate. The brain consumes a tremendous amount of energy. I'll bet if you loved more and hated less you'd become smarter as well.
China can't send contaminated foods or products to the US unless the US somehow allows it. My guess is that Republicans probably got the quality inspection rules changed so that they wouldn't have to spend as much money testing imported goods. They probably took the excess money and stuffed it in their pockets at the expense of consumer safety. Imported goods. All imported goods are subject to inspection and testing. Whichever American accepted those defective goods would be the one at fault. A few years ago Republicans changed the quality laws on Canned foods. It used to be that all canned foods could not have more than 20ppm of foreign (dirt, insect and rodent parts, leaves, etc.) material. The Republicans changed the law by increasing that to over 2 magnitudes. So, today all canned foods can have up to 2000ppm foreign material. This is likely what happened to inspecting imported goods, not just from China, but Brazil, South America, New Zealand, and other import suppliers.
As far as Dogs & Cats. Well, the world is filled with dogs and cats and the Asians say that they taste quite good. Maybe eating dogs & cats is the reason why Asian Albinos are more sane than European and American albinos. If it were me, I'd think it was worth the shot.
Practice what you preach Narmer. Who's the one who has promoted the extermination of who? That would be you. You advocate for the extinction/genocide of Whites by race mixing, heck you won't even tell what you would do to see to it that it happens & what you would have done to those Whites who refuse to.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
race mixing is good. If everybody mixes no race problems
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Nice titties for an Asian woman.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
quote:Originally posted by DHDoxies:
quote:Originally posted by Narmerthoth: ^ Doxie
Lose the hate and instead, fill your heart up with Love, Hope and faith. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to hate. The brain consumes a tremendous amount of energy. I'll bet if you loved more and hated less you'd become smarter as well.
China can't send contaminated foods or products to the US unless the US somehow allows it. My guess is that Republicans probably got the quality inspection rules changed so that they wouldn't have to spend as much money testing imported goods. They probably took the excess money and stuffed it in their pockets at the expense of consumer safety. Imported goods. All imported goods are subject to inspection and testing. Whichever American accepted those defective goods would be the one at fault. A few years ago Republicans changed the quality laws on Canned foods. It used to be that all canned foods could not have more than 20ppm of foreign (dirt, insect and rodent parts, leaves, etc.) material. The Republicans changed the law by increasing that to over 2 magnitudes. So, today all canned foods can have up to 2000ppm foreign material. This is likely what happened to inspecting imported goods, not just from China, but Brazil, South America, New Zealand, and other import suppliers.
As far as Dogs & Cats. Well, the world is filled with dogs and cats and the Asians say that they taste quite good. Maybe eating dogs & cats is the reason why Asian Albinos are more sane than European and American albinos. If it were me, I'd think it was worth the shot.
Practice what you preach Narmer. Who's the one who has promoted the extermination of who? That would be you. You advocate for the extinction/genocide of Whites by race mixing, heck you won't even tell what you would do to see to it that it happens & what you would have done to those Whites who refuse to.
To be honest Doxie/Ralph
I am no fan of intermarriage between sane & insane people. We have many examples of the harm that can come from it looking at the Europeans mixing with the remaining helpless native Americans.
However, I acknowledge that whites need to be cured of their Albinism created insanity and that presently the only real cure is to introduce some EUmelanin into their inhuman systems.
Make no mistake about it though, there is a huge difference between "elimination" and "Curing". Your people genocide but I'm suggesting a cure to bring albinos back into the fold of humanity. That's a big difference.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Narmer, cut the Ralph crap, my name is NOT nor has it ever been Ralph, my name is and always has been Trish (no you may NOT call me by my real name). Cut the albino crap as well Narmer, we Whites are NOT albinos we do NOT have albinism. Narmer no matter how you look at it, calling for the elimination/end of existence for a group of people IS genocide. So tell me Narmer, exactly how would you go about ensuring that Whites mixed ourselves out of existence? What would you have done to those Whites who refuse to mix?
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
DHDoxies, I am curious what brought you to this website? Why do you care if black people consider you an albino or not. You seem just as obsessed with ''black'' people as many of the black posters here trying to prove whites are albinos.
You southern white people have this strange relationship with blacks. You consider them inferior, magical, nurturing, and exotic at the same time.
Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
^ They know they are albinos and that is the source of their contradiction with black people and other people of color. If you notice, when white perform genocide on a group of colored peoples, they always keep a few thousand (usually female) alive which they mate with. Most of ll the native Americans today have a greater than 50% ratio of European genetics in them. Something similar was done with the Aborigines as well as the Mexicans.
P-gene-related oculocutaneous albinism (OCA2) is an autosomal recessive disorder. The phenotype is typically somewhat less severe than that of the tyrosinase-negative type (OCA1A). One of the mutations in the P gene, A481T, is associated with a mild phenotype, occasionally with no distinctive skin manifestations, which is called subclinical OCA. We present a Japanese patient having the A481T mutant allele in the P gene with subclinical oculocutaneous albinism diagnosed on getting severely sunburned. The A481T mutant allele is relatively common in the Caucasian population as well as in Japan, indicating that a number of subclinical patients of OCA2 might exist not only in Japan, but also all over the world.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Ausar, what brought me here well I'll explain. I was doing some research on the Celts & Charlemagne and one of Mike's posts stating they were Black showed up so I came to check it out & registered in order to defend the history of my people & my ancestors against his, Clyde's, etc lies. Tell me Ausar when have I ever stated in all my time here that Blacks were inferior? I never have. You yourself have joined in on the White bashing along with all the others. I will not sit back and allow my people to be bashed or my people's history to be stolen and it go unchallenged. BTW, I am not Southern by birth, I'm not even American by birth, I was an army brat born in Germany.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Okay you answered my question and that is fair enough. Who here besides Mike, Clyde or a few others believes the Neolithic inhabitants of Europe or the Celts were originally black? I have yet to see any evidence of this. Nobody outside of Egyptsearch and probably even many posters within this forum considers the ancient Celts to be black. From cursory reading of Celtic and European history it appears they were from Halstatt originally and clearly caucasian.
I have never bashed white people but simply stated European historians during the 19th century were culture thieves who stole from non-whites. They attempted to white-wash every advanced non-white civilization. Like I stated previously I am ambivalent towards white people and in my world they don't exist as an oppressor nor ally. If it were up to me I would favor living amongst non-white people and not being around any white people at all. I see nothing wrong with voluntary separation.
BTW, you being an army brat doesn't mean you donot have any southern cultural influences. If your mother or father was from the south you probably absorbed some of it even if you grew up on a army base. The main population of many of the white people in the military come from the south and Midwest.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
ausar - What is YOUR relationship to the ancient Egyptians, Sumerians, Elamites, Canaanites, etc.?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mike111: ausar - What is YOUR relationship to the ancient Egyptians, Sumerians, Elamites, Canaanites, etc.?
Just so there is no misunderstanding:
I am asking what is the relationship of people like this man to the ancient Egyptians.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie dear, I fear that ausar will runaway and hide now. Would YOU care to hazard a guess at what relationships that man and ausar has to the ancient Egyptians?
Hint: it's about the same as your relationship to the Indian.
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Oculocutaneous albinism type 2 with a P gene missense mutation in a patient with Angelman syndrome SHINJI SAITOH*, NAOKI OISO, TAKAHITO WADA*, OSAMU NARAZAKI, KAZUYOSHI FUKAI
The A481T mutation has previously been found in an African-American patient with P related autosomal recessive ocular albinism, as well as in one of 50 unrelated controls. The frequency of OCA2 is approximately 1/40 000 and 1/10 000 in whites and in African-Americans, respectively. Carrier frequency is thus estimated to be 1/50-1/100. The carrier frequency of A481T reported by Leeet al may have been overestimated, since previous studies have not shown that A481T is a predominant mutation in OCA2.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Mike, this is a different thread and you are probably here because I mentioned your name. Say it and you magically appear. But since you baited me I will take the bait and entertain you.
I do believe most of the rural populations in Egypt descend from the ancient Egyptians but have mixed with various invaders who intermarried with them. My challenge to you is to prove the foreigners produced populations large enough to displace the original ancient Egyptians. Demographics shifts are rather easy to prove because each invader to Egypt were literate cultures which keep copious amounts of material and wrote about the entire population at all periods in Egyptian history.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Who here besides Mike, Clyde or a few others believes the Neolithic inhabitants of Europe or the Celts were originally black? I have yet to see any evidence of this. Nobody outside of Egyptsearch and probably even many posters within this forum considers the ancient Celts to be black.
From cursory reading of Celtic and European history it appears they were from Halstatt originally and clearly Caucasian.
You say that they were "CLEARLY" Caucasian, not just that they were Caucasian, but that they were "CLEARLY" Caucasian.
Well then you should have no trouble producing artifacts like Caucasian skulls or some such thing showing that they were Caucasian.
Please present this material.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Mike, only fringe scholars believe the ancient Celts were ''black''. Where are your published studies other than your own conjecture that the ancient Celts were black?
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: I do believe most of the rural populations in Egypt descend from the ancient Egyptians but have mixed with various invaders who intermarried with them.
He,he,he,he:
You have reasonably accurately accounted for the RURAL population of Egypt. But more that half of Egypt's population lives in the "CITIES":
He,he,he,he:
HOW COULD YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT MORE THAN HALF OF THE POPULATION????
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Mike, only fringe scholars believe the ancient Celts were ''black''. Where are your published studies other than your own conjecture that the ancient Celts were black?
Please don't make me insult you.
Please answer my question, it is a reasonable question and follows your statement.
When you show the courage to admit that you have no clue as to what you are talking about, and say it only because your Albino gods said it is so.
THEN I WILL PRESENT PROOF OF YOUR IGNORANCE.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Taunting, Ridiculing and name-calling works on the street corner in Brooklyn but it does not work anywhere else. When people make claims the burden of proof is on them. You don't have one ounce of original research that was not provided by none other than your hated albinos. Every cataloged artifact, skull and study comes from a white historian.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Egypt From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
OFFICIAL NAME
Jumhūriyyat Miṣr al-ʿarabiyyah The Arabic Republic of Egypt, (Egyptian Pronunciation:Gumhūriyyet Masr el'arabiyyah)
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Taunting, Ridiculing and name-calling works on the street corner in Brooklyn but it does not work anywhere else. When people make claims the burden of proof is on them. You don't have one ounce of original research that was not provided by none other than your hated albinos. Every cataloged artifact, skull and study comes from a white historian.
So you are saying that because Albinos unearthed the artifacts, they cannot be Black people.
Please confirm that is indeed what you are saying.
BTW - You are beginning to sound like Djehuti, the Filipino in Atlanta. After a time he became a cracker. Environment has great impact on what we see, how we see things.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
As far as the Celts and Neolithic Europe I will admit I am not very well versed and have not studied about it. Problem is lots of the evidence you present is mostly second hand information. Again its just looking at artifacts and crania making assumptions based on no methodology other than your interpretation and the naked eye. Am I going to trust published academic historians who utilizes many methodologies to study the ancient Celts or a guy on a website? Ultimately this is what it boils down to.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Again you are twisting my words. I am saying you donot have a detailed methodology to present your case nor document the races of populations other than eye ball science.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Am I going to trust published academic historians who utilizes many methodologies to study the ancient Celts or a guy on a website? Ultimately this is what it boils down to.
Please show me a serious paper or study which says that ancient Europeans were White.
There are many which "ENCOURAGE" you to believe that. But "NONE" which actually say it.
Quite the contrary, studies which deal with race say that the ORIGINAL Europeans Were BLACK people!
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
THE FIRST EUROPEAN
Scientists Reveal the First European Faces Were Not White
Doxie dear - Have I made my case? Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
There are not many studies post 1980's that talk about describe any ancient European population racially. Since I don't have access to articles about ancient Europe or interest in the subject I cannot produce those documents. We have Greco-Roman descriptions but they do not describe the Celts as black. Anyway, if it makes you happy and I am sure you are to see me state this. You have not convinced me that the ancient Celts were black but I am not going to contest you since I don't care about the Celts.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
That is very magnanimous of you ausar, but it's all for our girl Doxie.
As I'm sure you know, she does not accept Turks as White. But all the while, claiming original Europeans, like the Black Celts, as White. This must end.
I want you and Doxie to accept each other as what you were and are, White invaders of Black lands.
Posted by Mike111 (Member # 9361) on :
Doxie - "Pure" Turks ARE White.
Please accept them, and love them, as you would any other White people. Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
.
Oase 2 reconstruction
^^^ this is a forensic artist's conception of the below skull found at Peştera cu Oase, southwestern Romania, dated 34,00036,000 years ago.
Oase 2 skull
^^This skull is irrelevant to the Celtic period which flourished about 3,200 years ago thought to be in the Britain and Ireland region A proper comparision would be a Central European skull of that age not one 30,000 years older and if you look at European skulls of that age they look markedly different
Some people think the Oase 2 skull has a closer resemblance to asians. It remains difficult to determine ethnicity of skulls
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Mike come off it you stupid Whitey hating, wanna kill Whitey, wanna harm White children, history stealing Black racist moronic waste of flesh. The Celts are NOT nor have they ever been Black. Europe is NOT nor has it ever been Black land. Turks are NOT nor have they ever been White. Why Mike why do you want to rob White children of their identity? Why don't you want them to know who they are? Why do you want to rob White children of their heritage? Why do you want to rob them of their history? Why don't you want them knowing who their ancestors are? Why do you want to rob them of their homeland? Why don't you want them to know where they came from? Why do you want to harm them Mike? Why do you want to rob them of their pride? Why do you want to rob them of their knowledge of self?
Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
Mike is ___pid the Celtic period flourished about 3,200 years ago so he posts not the actual skull but a reconstruction of a skull 35,000 years old and from about 1500 miles away Timelines always mess up Mikey
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Doxies, are white Americans really that concerned about if somebody like Mike steals their cultural heritage? How many white people have you asked on a daily basis that proudly proclaim Celtic or any unique European heritage?
I don't think its a pressing issue as you make it out to be on this forum.
Mike is not taken seriously except by the internet or street corner scholars. Although some early 1800s scholars like David MacRitchie tried to make a case for black Celts. I have also read some obscure literature trying to make an African connection to the Celts. None of it was taken seriously and most of these texts are out of print.
Recently some Irish linguist tried to link Gaelic as being related to Berber. Nothing came of this and its not embraced in academia. Understand for all the posts Mike makes he only cites second hand sources and does no original research.
Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
quote:Originally posted by ausar:
Although some early 1800s scholars like David MacRitchie tried to make a case for black Celts.
Ah! Then there's the classic The Celtic Druids by Higgins Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
cassiterides' new member name is
the lioness is a guy IRL
his old original 2011 cassiterides posts are now under that name
quote:Originally posted by ausar: Doxies, are white Americans really that concerned about if somebody like Mike steals their cultural heritage? How many white people have you asked on a daily basis that proudly proclaim Celtic or any unique European heritage?
I don't think its a pressing issue as you make it out to be on this forum.
Mike is not taken seriously except by the internet or street corner scholars. Although some early 1800s scholars like David MacRitchie tried to make a case for black Celts. I have also read some obscure literature trying to make an African connection to the Celts. None of it was taken seriously and most of these texts are out of print.
Recently some Irish linguist tried to link Gaelic as being related to Berber. Nothing came of this and its not embraced in academia. Understand for all the posts Mike makes he only cites second hand sources and does no original research.
Ausar,
Only those of us who actually care about our heritage. Of course we don't as most White Americans can't claim to be of one European ethnicity, take me for instance, my Paternal grandfather was Scottish of the Moore sept of the Boyd clan (Same clan as King James I, my ancestor & his ancestor were brothers), my paternal grandmother was from Germany, her mother was from Holland, my mother has ancestry from all over Europe but the further it goes back it tends to lead to either the Celts & the Vikings or the Romans & Greeks. Not to mention White children have it bashed into their heads from the time they are old enough to enter school, White man wicked, White man evil, White man devil, White man oppresses non Whites by their mere existence, that they are racist from birth, that they should be ashamed to be White, and are taught that if they have any pride in their people & heritage they are a racist & a WICKEDEVILNAZIWHOWANTSTOKILLSIXMILLIONJEWS. Therefore of course they wouldn't show any pride in their heritage.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
You glossed over what I stated about feeling threatened by people like Mike. Do you feel people such as himself may gain a academic legitimacy due to his postings from third-hand sources on Egyptsearch? I doubt anybody outside of Egyptsearch takes such claims as being legitimate. Personally I can vouch for this from my personal experiences at the University of Florida. Not one tenured, adjunt or TA would validate the claims of Mike.
Most of the people on this forum put lots of emphasis on ancient history and white people covering it up don't understand white supremacy. Many foolishly think claiming every civilization a black accomplishment whether true or false will elevate their place in the the social rankings. Well, America and the west is about money. Unless you plan to devise your own civilization
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
DOXIES whined: Not to mention White children have it bashed into their heads from the time they are old enough to enter school, White man wicked, White man evil, White man devil, White man oppresses non Whites by their mere existence, that they are racist from birth, that they should be ashamed to be White, and are taught that if they have any pride in their people & heritage they are a racist & a WICKEDEVILNAZIWHOWANTSTOKILLSIXMILLIONJEWS. Therefore of course they wouldn't show any pride in their heritage.
Laughable nonsense. Where is this mythical school where po white chilluns are being "bashed" that they should be "ashamed" to be white? Do you have any credible info to this end? Can you quote text books from elementary, middle or high school where this is happening? Do you have anything else besides the usual hot air?
What you REALLY mean is that people should not learn actual history- history that you want buried and airbrushed away- oh you know- things like how white union thugs murdered black people for the "crime" of working certain jobs, and a whole lot else. Here's white President Harry Truman with a bit of history about that from a book geared towards adults. Kids don't get into this depth pre-college but it is an apt example, since you elsewhere portray white people as all virtuous paragons of "merit" and goodness" compared to evil blacks.
President Truman was never ashamed to be white, and he was no flaming "liberal" on race, but he was man enough to be honest about white racism in this instance. You though, duck and run from real history whenever possible.
Oh and wait a minute. Actually 6 millions Jews WERE killed by white "role models"- along with millions of Poles, Russian prisoners, and other assorted "sub-humans." Oops.. But I know. In your "pity me" world, such never happened..
Oh, and the negro Sergeant Truman referred to was Issac Woodard who had his eyes bashed in and blinded by gasp, white "role models." Woodard's case was one of the incidents that led him to the landmark Executive Order 9981, desegregating the Armed Forces. But I know, po white chilluns should not be learning about such vile, twisted "Afrocentric" history either..
----------------------------------------------------------------- Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Zarahan, I don't believe I was talking to you so butt out. We all know that you hate Whites with a passion & want nothing more than to see Whitey exterminated. White children already learn about all the atrocities that their people have committed, why don't we start teaching them about the atrocities that Blacks and other non-Whites have committed how about that, you want equality right. Ohh that's right you think Blacks are innocent, paragons of goodness & virtue, while Whitey is all evil & can't do any good & needs to be exterminated. Heck you even deny the humanity of Whites & that we exist.
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
laughable.. you can't even put together a good propaganda spiel. I ask you again- Where are these mythical schools where po white chilluns are being "bashed" that they should be "ashamed" to be white? Do you have any credible info to this end? Can you quote text books from elementary, middle or high school where this is happening? Do you have anything else besides the usual hot air? What's taking you so long in producing the information to back up your claim?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Zarahan, ohh so you don't think White children only being taught about the atrocities Whites have committed and not about the atrocities that non-Whites have committed doesn't teach them to be ashamed of being White?
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
But they are taught about all sorts of non-white atrocities. History books in schools don't hide what the Mongols did, or some Zulu campaigns did, or what the Arabs did in East/Central Africa, or the human sacrifice of the Atecs. All of this is plain in standard textbooks. They are no secret. You keep ducking and dodging like the white racist you are. Again- Where are these mythical schools where po white chilluns are being "bashed" that they should be "ashamed" to be white? Do you have any credible info to this end? Can you quote text books from elementary, middle or high school where this is happening? Do you have anything else besides the usual hot air?
What's taking you so long in producing the information to back up your claim?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Zarahan, takes a racist to know one doesn't it, you Black racist goon. Its in EVERY school including college. Funny none of my teachers ever taught the full extent of what the Mongols did, nor did they teach us about the Zulus or the Moors heck I didn't even know what a Zulu was until I watched Shaka Zulu on tv & didn't know what a Moor was until I watched Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves. Nor did we learn much about the Arabs either when I was in school.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
You get your history from television and movies? What the Zulus, Mongols and Moors did is common knowledge if you bother to read history books.
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
It just shows you what kind of "skools" Doxie went to. The fact that she did not know what a Zulu was until she watched Shaka Zulu on TV illustrates herprofound limitations and ignorance.
Here is what one mainstream 5th grade lesson plan for kids has to say about the slave trade. It is clearly stated up front that the trade did not begin with white people, but was already established in Africa, and that the earliest Europeans adapted to this pattern to make profits. QUOTE:
"Trafficking of human beings did not begin with the Portuguese in the 1400s. Indeed, slavery had existed throughout the world since ancient times. When the Portuguese arrived in West Africa, they found a flourishing slave trade one that existed between the sub-Saharan African states, as well as one that existed between sub-Saharan Africa and North Africa. Those slaves often found their way as far as the Middle East. Recognizing the potential profit in such a trade, the Portuguese initially tried to capture Africans through raiding expeditions along the coast. Faced by tremendous opposition from the natives, the Portuguese decided to develop a trading system with the Africans in which they traded as equals. Using the Africans already successful and time-tested trading patterns, the Portuguese soon established a thriving commerce in slaves as well as gold and ivory."
www.huntington.org Grade 5- Lesson Plan United States History and Geography
Nothing is "hidden." Everyone knows about the slave trade. Hwre is what an 8th Grade lesson plan has to say about the Aztecs and their human sacrifices:
The Aztecs also believed that their gods were nourished by human blood, and that without sacrifice, the gods would not be able to provide them the above amenities necessary for survival.
The Aztecs sacrificed their own people by cutting out the victims still beating heart and throwing into fire where it would be consumed by the gods. Being chosen for sacrifice was considered an honor.
The Aztecs went to war to seek captives or prisoners to use for human sacrifice.
Witness Account: Aztec Human Sacrifice
The following passage is taken from a Jesuit missionarys first-hand account of a human sacrifice. Jesuit missionarys were religious figures charged with converting Native Americans to Catholicism. ..
Presently there stepped forth a Priest. He descended the steps of the Temple with all the speed he could, and mounted on a great stone planted upon a high Terrace in the midst of the Court. This stone was called Quauxicalli (Kwakecali) which is to say, the stone of the Eagle. Then did he mount to the place where those would be sacrificed, showing this Idol to every one in particular, saying unto them; this is your God. The ordinary manner of sacrificing was, to open the stomach of him that was sacrificed, and having pulled out his heart half alive, they tumbled the man down the stairs of the Temple, which were all imbrued and defiled with blood: And to make it the more plain, six Sacrificers came into the place of Sacrifice, four to hold the hands and feet of him that should be sacrificed, the fifth to hold his head, and the sixth to open his stomach and pull out the heart of the sacrificed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note again- the gruesome practices are described with disapproving first hand accounts of Jesuits explicitly included. Nothing is "hidden." Where is this mythical school where teachers "hide" such practices of non-European peoples so as to allegedly "bash" white kids and make them "ashamed" of being white? Doxie you are so full of crap that you house doesn't have a door, it has a lid.
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Well, the public fool system is kind of a joke. I know it was when I attended it and it still is today. They really don't teach you much except how to be a good employee and potentially a prisoner depending on which public fool system you go to.
All the stuff I read about history was self taught and really that is how most of the soft sciences should be. I donot recommend most public schools or state colleges. Unless your state college is like University of Florida which is a public ivy.
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
No Ausar. I plainly said the schools I went to as a child did NOT teach us about the Zulus or the Moors. Heck we didn't even cover the Celts, the only thing they taught about the Vandals was they were where vandalism got its name from, the only thing we learned about the Franks was about Charlemagne, we didn't learn jack about the Goths or Suevi, nothing about the Lombards, very little about the Vikings, we were also never taught that the Egyptians were White, heck I could look at the depictions of them and tell they weren't & always pictured a Black person when I thought of a Pharaoh. I never bothered researching the Zulus as they are not my people & not my interest. I heard of the Celts again on Robin Hood Prince Of Thieves (where the Sheriff of Nottingham said "you're talking about the Celts they drink the blood of their dead"), so I researched them myself. Heck my own father knowing his father was from Scotland didn't teach me anything about my Celtic heritage either. Heck I didn't even know there was a such person as Boudicca and she's my own 48th g-Grandmother until I was watching the History channel & saw an advertisement for a show they were doing on her, something drew me to it, like something telling me you need to watch this. After watching I hopped on my computer and researched to learn more about her. You are correct I went to public school. Graduated from high school but never went to college as I lacked my 2nd year of French & failed Geometry miserably but may go to community college to get those classes taken care of and then to the University Of Kentucky eventually to study Veterinary Medicine.
Zarahan, I already answered that question you Black racist moron. If what you say is true, then why are there Whites, Blacks & other non-Whites who claim that Whites were the only ones to ever conquer other peoples' lands, take the land, to enslave & were never enslaved & that Blacks are the only ones who have ever been enslaved?
Posted by ausar (Member # 1797) on :
Well even your referencing your father not knowing the Celts kind of proves my point that mot white Americans don't care about their European heritage. Ironic that most white Americans come from Scotch-Irish, Irish, and German stock. That is most of the underclass in the south is Scotch-Irish who were used by the British to oppress other white Irish groups. If you ever travel to the backwoods of eastern KY you will see how degenerate these groups really are. Celtic tribal culture is most of the rural south including Appalachia.
Posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova (Member # 15718) on :
No you did not answer the question. You keep avoiding it. Claiming that "every" school is "bashing" white kids and teaching them to be "ashamed" of being white is complete nonsense. I asked for actual examples. Where is this mythical "persecution" you speak of? And the lesson plan for 5th grade explicitly quoted shows nothing of what you claim. So far all you have done is spout Stormfront propaganda and talking points without the slightest evidence proffered.
then why are there Whites, Blacks & other non-Whites who claim that Whites were the only ones to ever conquer other peoples' lands, take the land, to enslave & were never enslaved & that Blacks are the only ones who have ever been enslaved?
Who are these people? Name some and give credible web links. Anyone can say anything. People say space aliens control the present white House. Can u explain that? But we are after actual credible examples which show, you claim that there is web of huge oppressive skool machinery "bashing" white kids and making them "ashamed to be white."
Who are teachers in American schools, or where are textbooks that are saying: "Whites were the only ones to ever conquer other peoples' lands, take the land, to enslave & were never enslaved & that Blacks are the only ones who have ever been enslaved?
Where are these mythical people? Disneyland? I again ask for actual, credible examples and you keep trying to duck and dodge. What's taking you so long in producing concrete, specific examples? Why are you running?
Posted by DHDoxies (Member # 19701) on :
Zarahan where do you think this young man got this from???
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