oh! here it is:
To be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse.
Fortunately this is not my words, otherwise I must be dead now.
So who said it? Mr. Brister
Mr. Brister is the president and founder of W.A.T.R.O.A.E. which stands for Women Are The Root Of All Evil.
He also said: "Behind every evil man, there is a woman that made him that way."
What is this evil that Brister speak of. If you are male, am sure you have experienced it. If U R a female am sure U will have something to say.
Am open to hear all the viewpoints from local and foreign eveils...lol
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adoula777@yahoo.com
As none of my men have been evil I can only assume I am a good woman ROFL
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UK Co-owner of www.toursinluxor.co.uk Accommodation and Tours in Luxor
Do U know what men used to say?
Drink triple, see double, and act single.
And U still say that none of them was Evil.....lol
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adoula777@yahoo.com
When you take a woman out, you're spending time and money.
Therefore: Women = Time X Money
Since Time = Money, therefore Women = Money squared (to the power of 2)
Since Money is "the root" of all evil, then Women = [The root of all evil][squared]
Therefore Women = Evil!
Aside from that I have to admit, I find women generally a pleasant breeze in a world full of fire...not all of them of course
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Sam
osamasayed@hotmail.com
Always willing to make new friends :)
It is true that women are moody creatures who use their feminie wiles to bring about the destruction of every man.
Every man who has ever died throughout history knew at least one woman.
But let it be known, though we are powerless to their curvature and minions to their mood swings we know on some level that they are evil. We're just too stupid to do anything about it. 
But let this serve as a warning, we shall rise up against the brutal feminine rule one day and break the shackles that bind us.
We'll stop living our lives with our every move calculated to impress the evil sex and will shed the burden their long shadow casts on us!
I urge all men to resist the temptations of the succubus we know women to be. Start today and maybe, just maybe, we can make this a man's world!
To all women in this world, don't be offended, am just kidding to urge U to say your opinion... 
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adoula777@yahoo.com
adoula i took a look at that website from these WATROAE and my very first impression was that whoever wrote that site has taken too many drugs ...
unfortunately i have to admit that there are some evil creatures among us ... but my estimate would be that the proportion of evil women would approximately equal the proportion of evil men ...
but what kind of creature would have developed that site if not a very evil one ... ?
well i really had to laugh when i read "every man who died in history knew at least one woman ..." 
let me tell you that every woman who died in history knew at least one man ...
Whittaker Chambers, author of Witness, wrote this about good and evil in some (but not all) fiction: "...everybody, is either all good or all bad, without any of those intermediate shades which, in life, complicate reality and perplex the eye that seeks to probe it truly."
The concepts of pure good and pure evil, as Bruno Bettelheim pointed out, generally exist only in "children's" fiction, such as fairy tales. It's a simplistic view of things, but it allows children to start getting a grasp on right and wrong. When they get older, they should move beyond it and start seeing the complexities in people and the world, and realize the "intermediate shades."
Sometimes, the child's view of good and evil does exist in "adult" fiction. The example I use is that of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, in which the characters are the whitest of whites and the blackest of blacks. Chambers referred to the plot as the "war between the Children of Light and the Children of Darkness." Unfortunately, Rand sincerely thought she was describing the real world.
Tolkien and Chambers are right. In the real world, no one is pure good or pure evil. Such "good" and "evil" exist only in fantasy. Everyone is imperfect: no one is "good" or "evil."
After thinking about this for a few years, I've decided that the definition of good and evil that most of humanity uses has been the cause of most of our problems throughout history. I'm not saying "good" and "evil" don't exist; I'm saying our incorrect concepts of them have been the cause of a horrendous amount of death and destruction.
Here is why: when people talk about "good," they almost always define themselves as good. This means anyone who disagrees with them is evil. Not merely mistaken, but evil. Since they are evil, they have to be destroyed. This has been the tiresome history of the world. The term for this behavior is "scapegoating."
Throughout history people, tribes, nations, religions and ideologies have invariably defined themselves as "good." They then have regularly defined their opponents as "evil." Since they are evil, all problems are projected on them. The logical, indeed inescapable, conclusion: annihilate them. Then there won't be any evil anymore, since the cause of the problems has been eradicated.
The Nazis defined themselves as good. Then they defined their opponents as evil. We know what happened. Contrary to what most people think, six million people didn't die in the death camps. Eleven million did. Six million were Jews; the other five million were Christians (the Nazis wanted to wipe Christianity out, too), Eastern Europeans, Gypsies, and the physically and mentally handicapped.
The Socialists defined themselves as good and their opponents as evil. In the 20th Century, historians estimate 177 million people lost their lives because of scapegoating. Those who had gained control of the State decided they were good, others were evil, and those defined as evil had to die.
One of the early interpretations of the story of the Garden of Eden is that Adam and Eve were expelled for scapegoating. Adam blamed Eve for his transgressions, and Eve blamed the serpent. Neither would accept responsibility for what they did. Then they were kicked out and evil came into the world.
What's interesting about the story, and little-noticed, is that Adam and Eve did not know what good and evil were until they ate of the fruit. What's the first thing they did? Adam pointed his finger at Eve, and Eve pointed hers at the serpent. They knew "good" and "evil" and instantly started scapegoating. Each said, "I'm good and blameless; you're bad and at fault."
The story makes perfect sense if it's realized that Adam and Eve had the wrong concepts of good and evil. If they didn't they wouldn't have instantly started scapegoating each other and gotten kicked out, bringing misfortune into the world. Why would they get kicked out for knowing the right concept of good and evil? It's the wrong concept of good and evil that brings evil into the world, not the right one.
Currently, we have Islamic fundamentalists claiming they are good (and have God on their side), so we are evil – the "Great Satan." We return the favor. We are good (and have God on our side), and they are what Bush called "the evil ones" and "the axis of evil." Or could it be that both sides are mistaken, confused, arrogant? That they are the blind leading the blind, and heading toward a ditch?
M. Scott Peck, author of The People of the Lie, correctly called scapegoating "the genesis of human evil." He's exactly right, but I don't think he goes far enough. The genesis of human evil is because people have false concepts of good and evil. People falsely define themselves as good and others as evil. That is what leads to scapegoating. Nearly everyone ignores the fact that all people are imperfect; therefore no one is "good" or "evil." They may say they know people are imperfect, and not pure good or pure evil, but their actions belie their words.
When we set ourselves up as good, we automatically set someone else up as evil. That's the incorrect view that has led to appalling slaughter throughout history. But it's human nature to do this.
Modern psychology may have found an answer as to why we have these deluded concepts of good and evil. The only school of psychology I pay any attention to is Object Relations Theory. This is what it has to say about scapegoating:
Theorists believe that starting soon after birth babies split their selves into an "all-good" one and an "all-bad" one. The "all-good" self is grandiose and god-like. The "all-bad" one is envious, hating, rageful.
Psychoanalysts Melanie Klein and Joan Riviere (among many others) believe the origins of rage, hate, envy and the desire to destroy are rooted in the initial relationship between the infant's self and what can be called "the primary caregiver" (usually but not necessarily the mother). They write, "For the infant child, the mother is the original and most complete source of satisfaction. Yet this total pleasure is inevitably frustrated."
Theorists believe infants experience this frustration as a threatened destruction of the entire self, since their existence at this age depends completely the care-giver/mother. This frustration generates rage, hatred and a wish to annihilate the "bad object" – the mother. Later, these feelings can be transferred to other people in the world the adult sees as a threat.
What the above means is that our incorrect concepts of good and evil are what leads to rage, hate, envy, jealousy, vengeance, intolerance, and murder. Nearly every bad thing that humans do, in my opinion, is because of our false concepts of good and evil. "I'm good; you're evil. I hate you and want to kill you because you are the evil that is cause of all my problems. I believe the story of the Garden of Eden supports this idea.
I also find it interesting that researchers believe that babies first scapegoat their mothers, just as Adam scapegoated Eve, the mother of all. Science catches up with religion, several thousand years later.
When I looked at other religions to see what they had to say, I found this in Taoism: "As a concept, Taoists do not hold the position of Good against Evil; rather they see the interdependence of all dualities. So when one labels something as a Good, one automatically creates Evil.
"Another way of understanding this is that the sage person knows the reality of Good and Evil, whereas the fool concentrates on the concept of good and evil. The sage knows that any evil will soon be replaced by good; the fool is forever fruitlessly trying to eliminate evil.
"The semanticist Alfred Korzybski expressed this distinction between the concept and the reality with the saying, 'The map is not the territory.'"
"The fool is forever fruitlessly trying to eliminate evil." Humanity has for thousands of years been trying to eliminate "evil." We call something "evil" and then try to destroy it, be it drugs, alcohol, tobacco, guns, SUVs or fatty foods.
I've also recently come to the conclusion there actually is no "evil." The universe it not evil; animals are not evil. The only thing that can be "evil" are some human beings. A very, very small minority, actually. But since all of us are imperfect, not pure good or pure evil, then there are no evil people. "Evil" does not really exist: it's just a convenient fiction, one that when we take it too seriously causes catastrophic problems.
Mind you, I'm not defending immorality or amorality. Far from it. I'm just claiming the opposite of Good is not Evil. The opposite of Good is Sickness. I believe this is why many theologians claim that "evil" is "twisted good." "Evil" is good that's become sick. C.S. Lewis suggested something similar when he wrote of "bad" people being "bent." Twisted. And we should remember that Lucifer was originally an angel, one whose name means "light-bearer." He became a twisted, bent, or "fallen" Good. And in Christian theology, St. Augustine made the argument that evil is not a "thing," i.e., it doesn't really exist.
Good is often defined as "wholeness." Wholeness is related to the words "healthy" and "hale." It comes from the root word for "unbroken unity." What's the opposite of wholeness and health? Not evil, but disease. Sickness. "Unholiness" (unwholeness), minus the moral connotation.
Interestingly, the Greek word diabolos is the root word for "diabolic." It literally means "to throw across," to divide, to disrupt, to separate – to make "not whole." (One of the opposite words, "symbolic," means "to throw together." The flag, for example, is supposed to be a symbol that throws us together.) The concept of sickness as unwholeness and fragmentation has been noticed for thousands of years. The story I keep in mind is when Jesus asked the possessed man his name, and was answered, "My name is Legion, for we are many."
I believe the concept of the opposite of Good being Sickness and not Evil is supported in the Gospels. In them, Jesus' main opponents were the Pharisees. The Pharisees looked down on ill people, believing they somehow deserved their sickness for offending God. They saw these sick people as bad people who had done evil. That's one of the things that happened in the past, and even happens today. Sick people were considered evil; that's why they were sick. Jesus never spoke one word about sick people being bad people. In fact, he healed them, and spoke of healthy people not needing a doctor, but the sick. Not evil, but sick.
When the human race is seen as "sick" – or fallen – there is the possibility of compassion. When people are seen as evil, there is the certainty of hate.
The word usually translated as "sin" in the Bible doesn't mean "evil." It's the Greek word hamartia, which comes from archery, and means "missing the mark." In many modern versions it's translated correctly.
But is not every one of the Seven Deadly Sins based on our narcissism, the unconscious idea that we are good and others are bad? When people are seen as "bad," they are reduced to "things," and the "sinner" becomes a selfish, irresponsible person.
It also didn't surprise me when I found the Buddha said one of the main characteristics of existence was dukka which translates as "suffering." Not evil, but suffering. Sickness. He claimed it was the inevitable result of attaching oneself to false ideas and concepts. He said there was a way out of it, as all religions do. And it's not by hate and destruction.
It also sounds to me that incorrect concepts of good and evil allow people who define themselves as good to become self-righteous and pompous. Sometimes even arrogant, grandiose and hubristic.
The worst people who have ever existed, the ones who have caused untold misery, are psychopaths. The story of Satan is a clinical description of a psychopath. Hitler, Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung were psychopaths. Saddam Hussein is a psychopath. The clinical term for a psychopath is currently Anti-Social Personality Disorder. It's listed as an incurable sickness. Not an evil, but a sickness. A sickness, that since it can't be cured, requires that psychopaths, when they break the law, either be locked up for the rest of their lives or else killed.
People have probably argued since before recorded history whether some people are "sick" or "evil." I opt for sick, because the concept of defining them as evil will sooner or later will slop over onto innocent people. It always has in the past, without fail, with unimaginably horrible consequences. You can say, in an oversimplified sentence, that our incorrect concepts of good and evil are what generates "evil."
I consider myself a conservative libertarian. Or a libertarian conservative. Take your pick. A conservative, in the true sense, is someone who believes one of the purposes of society is to "hold down" all the imperfections in human nature. A leftist, on the other hand, holds to the massively destructive view that "oppressive" society is repressing all the goodness in humanity. Change society radically, or get rid of it, and all the wonderful good stuff in people will blossom.
The incorrect view of good and evil is part of imperfect human nature. It needs to be held down by society. Unfortunately, most societies see the incorrect view of good and evil as a "good" thing, and one that should be taught to citizens. Hence, the unbelievable destruction these concepts have caused in societies. These concepts don't support societies. They destroy them.
The State uses propaganda to manipulate our mistaken notions of good and evil. The essence of propaganda is to say we are under attack because we are good and our opponents evil, to dehumanize and demonize the enemy, and then to claim that those who disagree are evil. Hermann Goering, when he stood in the dock at Nuremburg, said, "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and then denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Then the sheeple march off to war, as they have for thousands of years.
The correct view of good and evil – sickness as the opposite of good – is the one that should be taught, because it supports societies instead of destroying. I want to repeat that not all sickness can be healed. Some people are so bent, so twisted, so murderous, they have to be killed, because they are a permanent danger to everyone. But seeing the guilty as evil ultimately leads to seeing the innocent as evil.
What would happen if we gave up incorrect concepts of good and evil? We'd stop scapegoating, and most of the problems caused by people would disappear. We'd reenter the Garden of Eden, as much as possible in this fallen world. Of course, this will never happen. "Bad" people – and "good" – will be with us until the end of the world.
This is the story of one personal reason that I feel shows that women, at least some of them, are evil. I will leave the discussion of why they are all evil for a later time when I am not as busy and I can really get into it.
This quote is unverified. I do not claim these are the original, in fact the original is Arabic!
"I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." 
It was asked, "Are they ungrateful to God?"
He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the charitable deeds done to them. If you have always been benevolent to one of them and then she sees something in you not of her liking, she will say, "I have never received any good from you."
Jen,
Don't worry though, not all females are that bad. Just *almost all* of them....lol
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adoula777@yahoo.com
First I would like to thank U for your reply.
It was very nice from U that U talked general.
Now to be fair enough I must know if U R a woman evil or a man evil?
Second I want an answer is Women are Evil?
If U R a man, I am sure U have experienced it. so tell me more.
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adoula777@yahoo.com
Men are just as (or even more) evil. men don't know what they have till it's too late.
I can't even count the number of times that i've been ignored or tossed aside and then have the man realize what he's done. but sorry...it's too late. i guess most men just can't handle having an awesome woman in their lives.
Maybe if you guys carried out a full thought process before you spoke things would work out better, huh? don't go blaming everything on women.
Evil, your message was very interesting and deep. I never really understood why was it bad that Adam and Eve knew the concepts of good and evil, and yours is an interesting theory.
I won't do a counterattack here and won't say that all men are evil, but Adoula, don't you know that there are much more men in prisons than women? (And not only because we women are too smart to get caught. ) I think women have more empathy which makes them realize better what is wrong and what is good.
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Don't worry though, not all females are that bad. Just *almost all* of them....lol
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So I shuld feel evil then? Thank you very much...
... but I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!! 
Lori
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In Love With Egypt
I was expecting a new thread from you regarding engineering and dating but now seeing you found more complicated subject
Actually I cant agree to you(or maybe I should say I cant agree to Mr.Brister)about the idea of how evil the womens are. I think msjen is completely right. If we need to identify the gender of evil. I might say 50 men and 50 women.
Even there is a turkish saying as "a women can do you a king or a shameful person" I believe we can always use the opposite.
Take care,
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Originally posted by Sandal:
I certainly hope that most beautiful women are evil and are going straight to Hell. Because Hell is where I am heading to, and I like a good company there. Thank God, all the boring people are going to Heaven.
good point you make,
but tell us are you a man or a lesbian woman
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen,This is the story of one personal reason that I feel shows that women, at least some of them, are evil.
He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the charitable deeds done to them. If you have always been benevolent to one of them and then she sees something in you not of her liking, she will say, "I have never received any good from you."
Dear Adoula, well yes, I am waiting for that description of evil, ...
Well, and 'good' is also a matter of definition('i never receied any "good" from you')
I would like to note that a person who is in a charitable position may not be grateful if he/ she thinks that their 'benevolent' has put them into this situation in the first place ...
You are refering to a marriage, or at least a relationship between a man and a woman here, so how could a woman be grateful for a charitable deed - when she should feel that she is part of a PARTNERSHIP. I am not saying that both people do or give the same, I am merely HINTING that the aspects of such a relationship (in fact, any relationship)should be agreeable to BOTH PARTNERS. There should not be one who gives and one who receives, or one who is superior and one who is inferior ... in any aspect (financial, emotional, whatever ...)
But just to confuse things, there are partnerships where both people are HAPPY to be in an un-balanced situation and then there is no reason to complain for either of them ... so long as it was their CHOICE/ DECISION in the first place.
It looks to me as if this is implied in your definition above ... as if there had been an un-voluntary imbalance somehow.
But Adoula, of course MATURE people would be able to adjust this kind of situation without accusing each other of being evil, or not???
P.S.
I check at least once a day.
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Originally posted by Aaliyah:
... but Adoula, don't you know that there are much more men in prisons than women? (And not only because we women are too smart to get caught.
yep, and look at history, nearly all evil people were men!
Fanta,
The topic of dating an engineer is coming soon, am just preparing myself to the huge amount of women applications who will be interested.
Now to our topic:
First let us agree that it's cool to be evil...lol
Second, why U don't agree with mr. Brister idea?
As per Dr. Mellow's Guide to Women
Women, by nature, are evil.
The first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception. To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.
The falling Angels also knows everything.
What have human females done to human males that isn't fair? Mostly being turned into a caveman while females get to stay more childlike.
You may notice things about humans in general, you'll see that there are many males willing to sell out their own, just to please the evil females. (Judges, politicians and other law makers, police, etc) This is because evil females are in control.
Lori,
Some women are evil, some are saints.
Some men bite the big one, some don't.
I know men who are much worse than the worse woman I know. I know women I wouldn't trust my dog around.
Sandal,
I do agree with U 100%, I also hope that all beautiful women who are evil or even not evil are going straight to Hell, so I will be there waiting for them.
Jen,
Your interest in this subject is appreciated.
But:
Pretty horrible, right? Yep. Thats how females are.
When God created woman, she was taken from the rib of man as is described in Genesis. She was not taken from his foot that she might be crushed underneath his heel in bitterness. Neither was she taken from his head so that she might rule over him. She was not taken from the hand so that she might continually fill the position of waiting upon him. She was taken from the rib on man that she might be by his side continually. She is to be loved and is to respond as a part of his body. Husbands and wives are a part of each other.
To love their husbands" is a command. Too often this is equated by men to believe it is only a sexual relationship and in the mind of some women, that is all they think they are good for. To love your husband means that you are a partner with him, working together toward a common goal. Then you can be appreciative of his actions, efforts and work in supporting the family. You will do all that you possibly can to see that they are comfortable and happy when they come home.
"To love their children", is another command. As men provide for the family financially, mothers s tay home and rear the children. This might often be considered a thankless job. This is an area in which you can excel. As he earns the living and supports the family, you take care of the children while he is gone to work and make the house comfortable by keeping it pleasant and enjoyable. Yes, children can become exasperating at times, but remember, they are children who are still developing and learning. They need that sober guiding hand of the mature mother who lets them know that they are the objects of her love and concern.
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adoula777@yahoo.com
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Fanta,
The topic of dating an engineer is coming soon, am just preparing myself to the huge amount of women applications who will be interested.
you hope ...
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Originally posted by Adoula:
The first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception. To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.
... and what is wrong with that ?
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Originally posted by Adoula:
I know men who are much worse than the worse woman I know.
Thank you!
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Sandal,
I do agree with U 100%, I also hope that all beautiful women who are evil or even not evil are going straight to Hell, so I will be there waiting for them.
... see you there
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen,
Your interest in this subject is appreciated.
But: Pretty horrible, right? Yep. Thats how females are.
??? (don't understand???)
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Originally posted by Adoula:
When God created woman, she was taken from the rib of man as is described in Genesis. She was not taken from his foot that she might be crushed underneath his heel in bitterness. Neither was she taken from his head so that she might rule over him. She was not taken from the hand so that she might continually fill the position of waiting upon him. She was taken from the rib on man that she might be by his side continually. She is to be loved and is to respond as a part of his body. Husbands and wives are a part of each other.To love their husbands" is a command. Too often this is equated by men to believe it is only a sexual relationship and in the mind of some women, that is all they think they are good for. To love your husband means that you are a partner with him, working together toward a common goal. Then you can be appreciative of his actions, efforts and work in supporting the family. You will do all that you possibly can to see that they are comfortable and happy when they come home.
well yes, and vice versa!
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Originally posted by Adoula:
"To love their children", is another command. As men provide for the family financially, mothers stay home and rear the children. This might often be considered a thankless job. This is an area in which you can excel. As he earns the living and supports the family, you take care of the children while he is gone to work and make the house comfortable by keeping it pleasant and enjoyable. Yes, children can become exasperating at times, but remember, they are children who are still developing and learning. They need that sober guiding hand of the mature mother who lets them know that they are the objects of her love and concern.
well exactly, thank you for putting it into so beautiful words, but of course you really mean that raising children is a shared responsibility ??? (here comes into play this 'a woman knows everything' )
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For those of you not too inclined with the book of Genesis, there's a little story in there that talks about the creation of both man and woman (Adam and Eve.) Sin did not exist in the world, and both Adam and Eve lived harmoniously together in the Garden of Eden.
Well, in enters Satan. In the guise as a reptile, Satan convinced Eve that the tree would give them power and contained the best fruit in the entire garden. Eve listened to Satan, and also convinced Adam to do the same. They both ate from the tree, and were both punished severely by God. Thus, sin was born on the world, thanks to Satan.
Guys are whipped by girls. They can wrap us around their little finger and make us do almost anything they want. Adam knew God would disapprove of him eating from the Tree of Life, but was easily swayed by the power of a woman.
It is a well-known fact that girls will not listen to guys. No matter how many times you tell them something, they will refuse to listen or believe you. They are always right when it comes to men. HOWEVER, if one of their girl friends tell them something, whether it be true or not, they will always listen and believe. Girls only listen to girls.
Satan is a woman, because Eve listened and did exactly what she told her to do. If Satan had been male, then we wouldn't have sin today, because Eve would have never done what Satan told her, and we could live in peace and harmony.
God created man in his own image. Who would have known that he was copying the likeness of Satan when he made women?
Here is some of the things that men say it is wrong with the views of females today.
1- Females who don't want to help males, in any way.
2- Females who have a hugely overblown ego. They think they are sooo bloody amazing, just because they are female.
3- Females who are very self obsessive. They are more likely to be in love with themself than with a guy.
4- Females who are incredibly insensitive to males. They want to think that because males are male, they can't have any feelings about "male only" situations. And that males probably have less feelings about any situation anyhow!
5- Females who love to state. They hate to learn. They love to make up lies. But they hate to listen.
6- Females who think it is just perfect to hate guys for no reason. They make it into an artform, they make it into an INDUSTRY. There are greeting cards telling males how useless they are. 
Below, I will only select the best evil female links!):
www.succubus.net/bitch/
You must visit this site! Think you know what females are like on the inside? Check this out to make sure. Its all what they freely admit to. Pure evilness.
www.ukmm.org.uk
UK men's movement.
www.kithrup.com/brin/neotenyarticle2.html Females are in control of males, and so ruining the world.
www.misanthropic-bitch.com/death_to_women.html
How women like to be treated, and how they deserve to be treated.
niceguy.dearingfilm.com How one nice guy has been dealing with evil females
www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/3951/noback/sex.html
A more archivic essay site. Good for covering a whole range of anti evil female perspectives.
The point really that if women are evil, so men were supposed to girlcott.
Now, I must say it again, all the above are only thoughts, but as for me I believe that this evil thay say, it belongs to all of us anyone can be evil remember that! 
I know, some of U don't bite, but if we want to be bitten, U can do that too. Whatever is our pleasure.....lol
Men do bad things to women too, thats true, which causes a lot of pain and grief to those women, which drives these women to grow hatred towards men.
The women that males truly hate, are the stereotypical ones, sterotypical women hate men, for what reason?? who knows and who cares thats not the point. The point is, feminists go associating themselves with those stereotypical women, which is wrong, hating men and turning the tables of oppression against them is not the answer, its just gonna make the battle of the sexes(which shouldnt exist in the first place)escalate to a hostile point. This battle was not created by women and their evilness, it was created by the HUMAN RACE, its called, THE GAME. I have this philosophy, where one should not hate the player but hate the game instead. If us(men and women) take this concept under perspective and decide to take action, we can eliminate the game. The game is really the evil thing, women as well as men contributed to that game, so therefore we are all responsible for the hatred that reigns between men and women. Thats the purpose of the game.
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(just edited his quote, so don't get confused)
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen and all,For those of you not too inclined with the book of Genesis, there's a little story in there that talks about the creation of both man and woman (Adam and Eve.) Sin did not exist in the world, and both Adam and Eve lived harmoniously together in the Garden of Eden.
Well, in enters Satan. In the guise as a reptile, Satan convinced Eve that the tree would give them power and contained the best fruit in the entire garden. Eve listened to Satan, and also convinced Adam to do the same. They both ate from the tree, and were both punished severely by God. Thus, sin was born on the world, thanks to Satan.
Guys are easily convinced by girls. They can wrap us around their little finger and make us do almost anything they want. Adam knew God would disapprove of him eating from the Tree of Life, but was easily swayed by the power of a woman.
It is a well-known fact that girls will not listen to unintelligentguys. No matter how many times they tell them something, they will refuse to listen or believe them. They are always right when it comes to men. HOWEVER, if one of their intelligent male friends tell them something, which is normally true, they will normally listen and believe. Girls only listen to intelligent people.
Satan is a manipulative man, because Eve listened and did exactly what he told her to do. If Satan had been an intelligent person, then we wouldn't have sin today, because Eve would have never done what Satan told her, and we could live in peace and harmony.
God created man in his own image. Who would have known that he was copying the likeness of Satan when he made thick men?
So Aduola, as you correctly identified above, women always know exactly what men think, so I just clarified your thoughts for our friends here on ES
Oh nooo, there is more to correct ...
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Originally posted by Adoula
Here is some of the things that men say it is wrong with the views of females today.1- Menwho don't want to help women, in any way.
2- Menwho have a hugely overblown ego. They think they are sooo bloody amazing, just because they are male.
3- Menwho are very self obsessive. They are more likely to be in love with themself than with a women.
4- Men who are incredibly insensitive to females. They want to think that because females are female, they have too many feelings about "female only" situations. And that females probably have too many feelings about any situation anyhow!
5- Males who love to state. They hate to learn. They love to make up lies. But they hate to listen.
6- Males who think it is just perfect to disrespect for no reason. They make it into an artform, they make it into an INDUSTRY. There are greeting cards telling males how useless blondes are.
So many typing mistakes, Adoula, really not used to that from you
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula
Now, I must say it again, all the above are only thoughts, but as for me I believe that this evil thay say, it belongs to all of us anyone can be evil remember that!
... apart from women, you forgot to say ...
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula
I know, some of U don't bite, but if we want to be bitten, U can do that too. Whatever is our pleasure.....lol
... and ours ... lol
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula
Men do bad things to women too, thats true, which causes a lot of pain and grief to those women, which drives these women to grow hatred towards men.The women that males truly hate, are the stereotypical ones, sterotypical women hate men, for what reason?? who knows and who cares thats not the point. The point is, feminists go associating themselves with those stereotypical women, which is wrong, hating men and turning the tables of oppression against them is not the answer, its just gonna make the battle of the sexes(which shouldnt exist in the first place)escalate to a hostile point. This battle was not created by women and their evilness, it was created by the HUMAN RACE, its called, THE GAME. I have this philosophy, where one should not hate the player but hate the game instead. If us(men and women) take this concept under perspective and decide to take action, we can eliminate the game. The game is really the evil thing, women as well as men contributed to that game, so therefore we are all responsible for the hatred that reigns between men and women. Thats the purpose of the game.
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Smart theory but if you are posting sensible solutions like that then this thread will no longer provoke people to write something ... 
hee hee, we are all very proud of msjen, she did a great job manipulating my post.
Ok, I have proved my ideas, can you prove that men are just as evil?
If not:
I must agree that women are indeed evil but men are happy to accommodate them..lol
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This is really great, I am sure adoula wants to say these so I am sure he will thank you for helping him to get the truths in himself
I have found a list and enjoyed so much so would like to share with you...
1. We can stand to be wrong, while men make about excuses ''misunderstanding'' and some how it is always the women's fault.
2. When we see a ''caution'' sign, they carefully avoid it, while men assume that it was meant for someone else, and come home with every bone broken.
3. We characterize the first date, by seeing how you act and eat. Men check to see if you can name at least one football, basketball or baseball star.
4. We understand about privacy, and won't come in the room until 2 hours have passed.
5. We absently hum tunes from musicals without anyone being suspect of our sexuality.
6. We can use cosmetics should we wake up looking like something the cat dragged in.
7. We can wear platforms - which is why there is no such thing as a short woman's complex.
8. We don't have to get our strength up between sessions... and it's much easier for us to get laid in the first place.
9. We can get off with teenagers without being called dirty old perverts.
10. We never ejaculate prematurely.
I can continue sending more if you like them ...
Take care all,
quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
Dear women readers, please see below what Adoula REALLY wanted to writeSmart theory but if you are posting sensible solutions like that then this thread will no longer provoke people to write something ...
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Ahh, jen makes the best funnies. Wise?hee hee, we are all very proud of msjen, she did a great job manipulating my post.
Ok, I have proved my ideas, can you prove that men are just as evil?
If not:
I must agree that women are indeed evil but men are happy to accommodate them..lol
In fact, I can prove to you that the most evil creature on this planet is a man. Please go to http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushlordrings.htm
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Originally posted by msjen:
In fact, I can prove to you that the most evil creature on this planet is a man. Please go to http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushlordrings.htm
Awww, these Bush pics are hilarious...
Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?
Why they do the things they do? One possible reason that they do all this stuff is probably caused by their feeling that they are evil, and want to hide behind such things.
Another theory that can also be said is that they spend all our money because they are brainwashed. They are programmed to do so, then one day women could take over the world!!!!! How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.
So we males must united and take these thing and burn them down, take the metal from the evil machines, and build go karts!! This is the only way to stop them!!
To Fanta,
Here is what men say about women:
Please, never call them evil! You should treat them with a great respect.
I used to think girls were evil, until I woke up and saw the truth..
Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them. Well, some of us might not need garlic, but wear it just in case.
But always remeber my saying:
A little evil in a woman adds spice...lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?
LOL... it seems you know only very ugly women I don't need to spend hundreds of dollars on these things, I'm pretty enough without them
quote:
How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.
No... actually we go there to discuss secret strategies against the innocent and helpless men...
quote:
Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them.
Ooh! You discovered the truth about us: that we are not only evil but vampires!!! You should have kept it in secret! Now you can't escape our revenge!
[This message has been edited by Aaliyah (edited 18 November 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by Aaliyah:
Ooh! You discovered the truth about us: that we are not only evil but vampires!!! You should have kept it in secret! Now you can't escape our revenge!
Well,
I still agree with Mr. Brister who said:
"Too be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse."
If U remember:
St. Paul wrote a letter to a young Christian, and said that the root of all evil is the love of money.
And St. Adel would like to say that the root of all evil is the women.
And I know it well, if God had not created women, Hell would be empty. Harsh? Maybe. True? Of course it is! Then again, if God had not created women, none of us would be here. But that's beside the point, which is: Women are not only the ROOT of all evil--they are the trunk, limbs, and leaves as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by fantachero:
Jen,This is really great, I am sure adoula wants to say these so I am sure he will thank you for helping him to get the truths in himself
I have found a list and enjoyed so much so would like to share with you...
1. We can stand to be wrong, while men make about excuses ''misunderstanding'' and some how it is always the women's fault.
2. When we see a ''caution'' sign, they carefully avoid it, while men assume that it was meant for someone else, and come home with every bone broken.
3. We characterize the first date, by seeing how you act and eat. Men check to see if you can name at least one football, basketball or baseball star.
4. We understand about privacy, and won't come in the room until 2 hours have passed.
5. We absently hum tunes from musicals without anyone being suspect of our sexuality.
6. We can use cosmetics should we wake up looking like something the cat dragged in.
7. We can wear platforms - which is why there is no such thing as a short woman's complex.
8. We don't have to get our strength up between sessions... and it's much easier for us to get laid in the first place.
9. We can get off with teenagers without being called dirty old perverts.
10. We never ejaculate prematurely.I can continue sending more if you like them ...
Take care all,
Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lol
Anyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?
1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLE
Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
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adoula777@yahoo.com
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
They're not single... most of them already has a boyfriend
I must owe you a thanks because I am alive maybe just because of garlic, it protect me from flu and from evil men
About the items you have listed, I again dont agree with you because they are all done by men to make women crazy also. Personally none of them describe me at least. I still believe that we cant generalize that all these are the characteristic of either a women or men.
Shortly there are bad and goods in both gender and it seems that you met with the bad ones till now
Take care,
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lolAnyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?
1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLENow the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:
Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
quote:
Originally posted by Aaliyah:
Awww, these Bush pics are hilarious...
glad i managed to contribute to your entertainment ...
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
To Jen,
Um, right. But women is still very evil.Do you ever wonder what gets women to go out and spend hundreds of dollars on beauty items and services?
Why they do the things they do? One possible reason that they do all this stuff is probably caused by their feeling that they are evil, and want to hide behind such things.
Another theory that can also be said is that they spend all our money because they are brainwashed. They are programmed to do so, then one day women could take over the world!!!!! How are they programmed, though transmitters, they call them "hairdryers". This is probably the main reason that they come to salon.
So we males must united and take these thing and burn them down, take the metal from the evil machines, and build go karts!! This is the only way to stop them!!
To Fanta,
Here is what men say about women:
Please, never call them evil! You should treat them with a great respect.I used to think girls were evil, until I woke up and saw the truth..
Yes women are evil. You should wear garlic around your neck to repel them. Well, some of us might not need garlic, but wear it just in case.
But always remeber my saying:
A little evil in a woman adds spice...lol
Well, well, dear Adoula, lets see who spends more money on useless items
Women wear make-up as we have a sense of aesthetics and we simply call it being well-groomed. By the way, there are many men who also buy moisturisers, perfume, spend lots of money on haircuts etc (men are the fastest growing market in make-up industry, I think).
Oh and you accuse us of spending all your money on this ! ok, point taken, but do you not also prefer a well-groomed woman to a sloppy one ???
Oh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!
However if you look at how men spend their money (ie cars) i would suggest that our spending patterns are friendlier to our environment than yours!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Fanta,
It seems that U still alive, and this garlic was not effective enough....lolAnyway, In a perfect world, some women may do what U mentioned above, but tell me who is doing the below things to drive men crazy?
1. ACTING SWEET TO GET A MAN, THEN CHANGING
2. NOT GIVING ENOUGH SPACE
3. WANTING TOO MANY THINGS
4. NOT SAYING WHAT SHE MEANS
5. THE THREE B'S OF SEX
(Bad, Boring, Boudoir battle )
6. CONSTANTLY TALKING ABOUT OTHER MEN
7. BEING A DRAMA QUEEN
8. BEING HARD AND COLD
9. ENGAGING IN A POWER STRUGGLENow the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
Dear All
Once again, I must apologise for Adoula's spelling mistakes. He means, of yourse, that the above points refer to MEN not WOMEN! Adoula we must really practise this
Oh and 'being nice' ... What exactly is 'being nice' when you talk about men?
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Well,
I still agree with Mr. Brister who said:
"Too be fair, I must admit that all women are not evil. Some are evil, some are wicked, some are hellishly evil, and some are the grand puba of all that is extemporaneously evil. So, some women are not evil, they are just worse."If U remember:
St. Paul wrote a letter to a young Christian, and said that the root of all evil is the love of money.And St. Adel would like to say that the root of all evil is the women.
And I know it well, if God had not created women, Hell would be empty. Harsh? Maybe. True? Of course it is! Then again, if God had not created women, none of us would be here. But that's beside the point, which is: Women are not only the ROOT of all evil--they are the trunk, limbs, and leaves as well.
Dearest friend
I am running out of arguments and I have to admit that this hasn't happened often to me in my life. I will rest now, and you can WAIT FOR THE REVENGE FOR THESE ACCUSATIONS!!!
best wishes,
quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
Well, well, dear Adoula, lets see who spends more money on useless itemsWomen wear make-up as we have a sense of aesthetics and we simply call it being well-groomed. By the way, there are many men who also buy moisturisers, perfume, spend lots of money on haircuts etc (men are the fastest growing market in make-up industry, I think).
Oh and you accuse us of spending all your money on this ! ok, point taken, but do you not also prefer a well-groomed woman to a sloppy oneOh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!
However if you look at how men spend their money (ie cars) i would suggest that our spending patterns are friendlier to our environment than yours!!!
quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
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Oh and by the way we don't hide behind make-up, we enhance our features!!!
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Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.
Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.
What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.
Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.
Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.
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adoula777@yahoo.com
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Now the question is:
If nice guys are what women really want, then why is it that most nice guys are single?
Nice guys are not single nice guys usually are attracted by bastard women and vice versa
quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
...WAIT FOR THE REVENGE FOR THESE ACCUSATIONS!!!
Huhhhhh does that mean i got a little bit carried away earlier on today? hope that doesn't mean i'm EVIL now ...
To all women, here you go, a man's words made me evil. Now look at it objectively and tell me who is the SOURCE of all evil!!!
[This message has been edited by msjen (edited 19 November 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by fantachero:
Hi jen,
As always I agree with you,I see lots of men recently spending the same amount(maybe more than me)for cosmetics and hair cuts and even image makers
We must add computer tools, mobiles, car materials etc.to men shopping list which they are all interested.best wishes,
thank you fanta, good points!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.
What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.
Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.
Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.
you've been heard and understood
quote:
Originally posted by Jamilah:
Nice guys are not single nice guys usually are attracted by bastard women and vice versa
yep, i think i'd go with this version
The things you said are too good to be true. Wish all men are such but unfortunately as far as I can see these types you describe are in fairy tale stories or in the soap operas.
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jen,
They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so those eyes need to be full of light. You can wear eye makeup but it won't hide bitterness. You gotta work on the inside if you want a man to see your beauty.Men are moved by what they see and women are moved by what they hear. However, within the context of that, I think U've all been led to believe that all men want a size-two woman with six-pack abs. That's not necessarily true.
What a man wants is a healthy woman who enjoys her body and likes herself. From there the size can vary. But if she is embarrassed by her body, that is what he does not like.
Remember that a man's heart is shaped just like God's and it seeks honor, respect, praise, and encouragement. The woman is basically the period on the end of a man's sentence. The finisher.
Remember that behind the heart of every man is a little boy waiting to be nurtured. Also, remember to listen. They want to know they've been heard just as women do.
What did Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him say?
Sahih Bukhari, The book of Belief, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28:
The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."
Prophet Muhammad was very specific about why many women will end up in hell. The reason is because many women don't appreciate their husbands!. How good is a woman who doesn't appreciate her husband, and doesn't care about him enough, that if he does something bad to her, then she'll remember it for him for the rest of her life? How good is a woman who doesn't remember much of the good that her husband does for her?
Women of that kind are not accepted in Islam. Women in Islam must honor their husbands and seek with their best ability their comfort. A woman who doesn't appreciate her husband is in reality treating him as a working slave for her and for their kids.
Those are the Evil women.
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When asked to further describe Yin (evil), the explanation comes:"The Yin is the negative
force in nature. It is seen in darkness, coolness, FEMALENESS, dampness, the earth, moon and the shadows. The Yang (good) is the positive force in nature. It is seen in lightness, warmness, MALENESS, dryness and the sun. (Hopfe 207)."
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quote:
Originally posted by fantachero:
Adoula,The things you said are too good to be true. Wish all men are such but unfortunately as far as I can see these types you describe are in fairy tale stories or in the soap operas.
fanta the secret is: they don't really exist, remember they are all EVIL!!! they like to make us believe that they have these traits sometimes in order to con a lovely woman!!!
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Fanta and Jen,
But I still have something to say:
and i would like to point out that you are not responding to our posts but merely bringing in new information!!!
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Originally posted by Adoula:
CHINESE RELIGIOUS CONCEPTS AND WOMEN:
The Yin and the Yang is a concept quite familiar even in the west especially in merchandise. In their mythical theory of how the universe operates, Chinese philosophers invented the concept of the Yin and Yang. The universe they concluded is understood to be a balance of the Yin (evil or negative) and the Yang (good or positive).When asked to further describe Yin (evil), the explanation comes:"The Yin is the negative
force in nature. It is seen in darkness, coolness, FEMALENESS, dampness, the earth, moon and the shadows. The Yang (good) is the positive force in nature. It is seen in lightness, warmness, MALENESS, dryness and the sun. (Hopfe 207)."
oh dear, i was dreading that you might find this info...
as the above aws surely written by a man, I would like to remember you of your own words: women alyways know what a man thinks BETTER than himself. let me advise you that the above was supposed to mean the opposite, the man just didn't have the courage to put the truth in words and now GENERATIONS of chinese people believe exactly those words
From the most ancient times, men have insisted that women were responsible for male failure. Eve, after all, tempted Adam.
Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer.
In recent years, Hollywood has suddenly become preoccupied with evil women. What used to be the stuff of low-budget movies -- women behind bars, with guns and knives -- bad women -- has become a Hollywood cliche. The hapless male, usually portrayed by Michael Douglas, is pursued by a deranged Sharon Stone or Glenn Close.
Is Adam tempting Eve? As women have assumed public life, one senses a growing female willingness to confront evil, certainly to reject the role of the "good girl," to be as bad as the boys. Is there, after all, a male anywhere in the world as bad as Madonna?
The most famous woman has been the Virgin Mary. I suppose, I have always regarded her less as a symbol of womanhood than as a model of the feminine principle in history, an example for men as much as for women.
A number of women I know find her version of holiness too tender, too maternal. Hindu goddesses, by comparison (think of Kali, punisher of unfaithful husbands), while often as tender as Mary are also fearsome beings.
Not coincidentally, a new interest is emerging among Christian feminist theologians in Mary Magdalene, the whore who was befriended by Christ, the street woman who becomes the first evangelist.
I think women are evil, yes. More specifically, I think misguided feminists are evil. However, I never said women were less than anyone. To me, evil does not equal "less." I wanted to point out some of the more irritating aspects I find in them.
So let's agree to disagree if you don't like what I'm saying. I am but one person in this world of billions. I do think there are a few good things about women as well....lol
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quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
oh dear, i was dreading that you might find this info...
as the above aws surely written by a man, I would like to remember you of your own words: women alyways know what a man thinks BETTER than himself. let me advise you that the above was supposed to mean the opposite, the man just didn't have the courage to put the truth in words and now GENERATIONS of chinese people believe exactly those words
Jen, the first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception.
To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.
But, unfortunately, there is a drawback to asking a woman such a question.
This drawback is that she, in all probability, will answer. And once a woman starts talking, it is very rare that she will ever stop. I believe this has something to do with the way that women think. Women believe that as long as they are talking, people listen to her. Of course, listening to a woman talk can be very tedious at times.
It is OK not to listen to her as long as you nod your head in agreement and say Uh-huh every now and then. This makes the woman think you are listening and therefore she is happy.
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quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Monica,
Thanks for encouraging me.
Hopeully I can continue this trend of adding some thoughts to this topic:From the most ancient times, men have insisted that women were responsible for male failure. Eve, after all, tempted Adam.
Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer.
In recent years, Hollywood has suddenly become preoccupied with evil women. What used to be the stuff of low-budget movies -- women behind bars, with guns and knives -- bad women -- has become a Hollywood cliche. The hapless male, usually portrayed by Michael Douglas, is pursued by a deranged Sharon Stone or Glenn Close.
Is Adam tempting Eve? As women have assumed public life, one senses a growing female willingness to confront evil, certainly to reject the role of the "good girl," to be as bad as the boys. Is there, after all, a male anywhere in the world as bad as Madonna?
The most famous woman has been the Virgin Mary. I suppose, I have always regarded her less as a symbol of womanhood than as a model of the feminine principle in history, an example for men as much as for women.
A number of women I know find her version of holiness too tender, too maternal. Hindu goddesses, by comparison (think of Kali, punisher of unfaithful husbands), while often as tender as Mary are also fearsome beings.
Not coincidentally, a new interest is emerging among Christian feminist theologians in Mary Magdalene, the whore who was befriended by Christ, the street woman who becomes the first evangelist.
I think women are evil, yes. More specifically, I think misguided feminists are evil. However, I never said women were less than anyone. To me, evil does not equal "less." I wanted to point out some of the more irritating aspects I find in them.
So let's agree to disagree if you don't like what I'm saying. I am but one person in this world of billions. I do think there are a few good things about women as well....lol
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 20 November 2003).]
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Originally posted by msjen:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:
[b]Ok Fanta and Jen,
But I still have something to say:
and i would like to point out that you are not responding to our posts but merely bringing in new information!!! [/B][/QUOTE]
No Jen, it is childish attempt from non Muslims to use this topic to try to disprove the validity of Islam. They claim that since Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him claimed what he saw in hell regarding most of the people in hell were women, then therefore Islam is a sexist religion that discriminates against women.
FFirst, we need to understand that Prophet Muhammad did not sentence any man or woman to hell or heaven.
He only said what he saw. It was not of his own opinion. If Allah Almighty throws many women in hell because of their wickedness, then it is not Prophet Muhammad to be blamed.
If you have a problem with this issue, then all I can tell you is to complain to GOD Almighty about it.
The Bible also mentioned something like this:
Let us look at Ecclesiastes 25:22 "Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (from the Catholics Bible).
In Hindu religious literature by far, the most effective weapon used by the Gods to corrupt virtuous mortals is a woman. Usually a seductive celestial nymph but sometimes just woman, the root of all evil in the ascetic oriented view of the orthodox Hindu (Baldick, Radice, Jones 36).
The Mahabharata states, "I will tell you my son, how Brahama created wanton women and for what purpose, for there is nothing more evil than women... The Lord Grandfather, learning what was in the hearts of the Gods, created wanton women by a magic ritual in order to delude mankind.. (13.40.3-10)"
Hey Jen,
I hope I succeeded to convince U to convert into a male......lol
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Originally posted by Monica:
I read and smile, read and smile...no comments on this 'evil' issue today...just keep writing, and maybe...eventually...you might see my 'humble' opinion again...he he he!
Oh Monica,
Thanks God that U read and smile, but all what I do is that am trying to convince U to write and reply......But poor Adoula, still unsuccessful..lol
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quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer.Well I would like to say the contrary - men FEEL distracted by women. This is not by intention of the women and therefore it is unfair to blame her.
In fact, some explicit comments on women BY men are very insulting to many women. They imply that we have a place on this planet purely to please or displease men. That upsets many women, including myself.
In recent years, Hollywood has suddenly become preoccupied with evil women. What used to be the stuff of low-budget movies -- women behind bars, with guns and knives -- bad women -- has become a Hollywood cliche. The hapless male, usually portrayed by Michael Douglas, is pursued by a deranged Sharon Stone or Glenn Close.
That has a purely commercial background - the simple reason is that the theme of evil and brutal men is already overexploited. I bet you a million dollars that the next theme will be brutal girls and boys in child age - aparently that turns a proportion of the population on, too. By the way the film directors and writers of these movies are mostly men ...
Is Adam tempting Eve? As women have assumed public life, one senses a growing female willingness to confront evil, certainly to reject the role of the "good girl," to be as bad as the boys. Is there, after all, a male anywhere in the world as bad as Madonna?
This is merely an over-reaction - we learn that we will not get anywhere if we are as good as we want to be. We simply follow the example of men, in order to survive. Now you tell me who is the SOURCE of this evil?
The most famous woman has been the Virgin Mary. I suppose, I have always regarded her less as a symbol of womanhood than as a model of the feminine principle in history, an example for men as much as for women.
A number of women I know find her version of holiness too tender, too maternal. Hindu goddesses, by comparison (think of Kali, punisher of unfaithful husbands), while often as tender as Mary are also fearsome beings.
Not coincidentally, a new interest is emerging among Christian feminist theologians in Mary Magdalene, the whore who was befriended by Christ, the street woman who becomes the first evangelist.
what do you think is the reason for that?
I think women are evil, yes.
More specifically, I think misguided feminists are evil. However, I never said women were less than anyone. To me, evil does not equal "less." I wanted to point out some of the more irritating aspects I find in them.
Well yes, misguided feminists are evil, true. Let me tell you that I met a woman who had a go at a man who was so kind to open the door for her! That is misguided. Also, my mother's colleague had a go at a male colleague who was so kind to offer his assistace to open a bottle of champagne during an office party - her reply was that she can do that herself and she doesn't need men for that. That is truly misguided, it is a matter of courtesy and not of male domination to open a door or a bottle of bubbly.
However let me tell you of one of the discussions I had with some of my clients this week: we were discussing a case study of recruiting the best person for a sales job. the choice was a 40 year old woman, a 30 year old woman, and a 50 year old man.
the 30 year old woman had the best qualifications and the most relevant experience.
One of the men in my group said that she was clearly the best qualified of the three of them but he would never recruit her because she is a 30 year old woman.He is a senior executive of a company and made no secret of the fact that he wouldn't recruit a woman into a senior position if she is 30 years old, no matter how many times she has proven her ability to succeed.
Adoula, please tell me, how are women supposed to react? Do you think that is fair?
So let's agree to disagree if you don't like what I'm saying. I am but one person in this world of billions. I do think there are a few good things about women as well....lol
so maybe now you can start telling us about these good things now ... lol
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen, the first thing one must remember about a woman is that she knows everything. This is without exception.To go as far as say that a woman knows what you are thinking is not unrealistic. If, at any point of time, you are unsure of what you are thinking, one of the best ways to find out is to ask the nearest woman.
Ever heard of telepathy?
But, unfortunately, there is a drawback to asking a woman such a question.
This drawback is that she, in all probability, will answer. And once a woman starts talking, it is very rare that she will ever stop. I believe this has something to do with the way that women think. Women believe that as long as they are talking, people listen to her. Of course, listening to a woman talk can be very tedious at times.
It is OK not to listen to her as long as you nod your head in agreement and say Uh-huh every now and then. This makes the woman think you are listening and therefore she is happy.
dear adoula, i am really wondering what type of women you know
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hey Jen,
I hope I succeeded to convince U to convert into a male......lol
i am a male!
just joking, but you really conviced me
[This message has been edited by msjen (edited 20 November 2003).]
I hope readers have a sense of humour...we're joking here... but in reality who knows who is who???
And that reminds me of freeman: your gender please!?
Where is that man?
quote:
Originally posted by msjen:
i am a male!
[This message has been edited by msjen (edited 20 November 2003).]
And U said "Well I would like to say the contrary - men FEEL distracted by women. This is not by intention of the women and therefore it is unfair to blame her.
In fact, some explicit comments on women BY men are very insulting to many women. They imply that we have a place on this planet purely to please or displease men. That upsets many women, including myself".
And I would like to say:
But hope U do not deny that some women may distract some men, and some men
may inhibit some women--and also that some men may distract other men, and
some women may inhibit other women.
I said: "In recent years, Hollywood has suddenly become preoccupied with evil women. What used to be the stuff of low-budget movies -- women behind bars, with guns and knives -- bad women -- has become a Hollywood cliche. The hapless male, usually portrayed by Michael Douglas, is pursued by a deranged Sharon Stone or Glenn Close".
U said "That has a purely commercial background - the simple reason is that the theme of evil and brutal men is already overexploited. I bet you a million dollars that the next theme will be brutal girls and boys in child age - aparently that turns a proportion of the population on, too. By the way the film directors and writers of these movies are mostly men ..."
And I would like to say: Ok, I agree to bet, and will see, but please prepare your Million Dollars....lol
I said "Is Adam tempting Eve? As women have assumed public life, one senses a growing female willingness to confront evil, certainly to reject the role of the "good girl," to be as bad as the boys. Is there, after all, a male anywhere in the world as bad as Madonna?"
U answered "This is merely an over-reaction - we learn that we will not get anywhere if we are as good as we want to be. We simply follow the example of men, in order to survive. Now you tell me who is the SOURCE of this evil? "
And I will say:
The relationship between Adam and Eve was a failure when they did not trust in God. Verse 26 of chapter 1 says that God made man in His own image and that He made man male and female. This passage of the Bible teaches the equality of man and woman. Marriage is a partnership.
The man is not above the woman and the woman is not above the man but both have an authority over each other and a submission to each other, with both being under the supreme authority of God (I Cor. 11:11-12). It appears that the problem with Adam and Eve’s relationship as recorded in Genesis is that they both failed to fulfill their responsibilities toward each other in their decisions to eat the fruit.
The Bible says to flee temptation; this is the most sure way to avoid sinning. Eve obviously did not know this concept. But also in a marital relationship when any decision is made by one spouse it will inevitably effect the other spouse to a minor or major degree. When Satan tempted Eve she knew that it was against the commandment of God to eat the fruit.
And she did not consult her husband for advice before making that disastrous decision. She did not rely upon her husband for advice and guidance but rather made a selfish decision thinking only of the lies which Satan promised. She thought of herself and what she would get out of eating the fruit. She was selfish. She should have asked God first, her husband second, and herself last.
It is tempting to blame Adam and say that he should have been keeping closer watch of his wife to protect her, but unless Adam and Eve were aware of Satan, Adam had no reason to be concerned because they both lived in the paradise of God. Even so it was Adam’s responsibility to watch over his wife.
I wrote: "The most famous woman has been the Virgin Mary. I suppose, I have always regarded her less as a symbol of womanhood than as a model of the feminine principle in history, an example for men as much as for women.
A number of women I know find her version of holiness too tender, too maternal. Hindu goddesses, by comparison (think of Kali, punisher of unfaithful husbands), while often as tender as Mary are also fearsome beings.
Not coincidentally, a new interest is emerging among Christian feminist theologians in Mary Magdalene, the whore who was befriended by Christ, the street woman who becomes the first evangelist".
U asked: "what do you think is the reason for that?"
And I would like to reply:
Four pieces of Gospel evidence strongly point to Mary Magdalen as a temple priestess of the Goddess.
Next, Mary is known as a prostitute, just as the Goddess priestesses were titled "Sacred Prostitutes," although a more recent and accurate translation titles them "Sacred Women" or "hierodulae" (B, p. 29). Such prostitutes were considered evil by Jewish leaders of the time.
The Cult of the Magdalen, forced underground, is linked to the Cult of the Black Madonna, which thrived in France and elsewhere in Europe. There has been much speculation as to the origin of the Madonna's blackness. One link is to Sarah "The Black Queen," believed to be the child of Mary Magdalen, brought out of Egypt.
Some of the Black Madonnas were originally statues of Isis, such as The Black Virgin of Notre Dame du Puy.
There has been a revival of interest in the Black Madonna. One modern devotee has this to say about her:
"Through the Black Madonna's interaction in my life, I am finally able to say, 'Enough pain, enough wounding. It's over, the hurting is over. I am perfect the way I am, and that doesn't mean I don't make mistakes. It means that in my humanity, even my mistakes are perfect."
Carla Curio
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quote:
Originally posted by Monica:
No wonder we get along...I'm a male too...he he he..;-))I hope readers have a sense of humour...we're joking here... but in reality who knows who is who???
And that reminds me of freeman: your gender please!?
Where is that man?
lets hope not in iraq
he posted a thread to find out if we still miss him and when he got confirmation he disappeared again ... typical man !
freeman now you have the chance to disprove me
Et'halakt, haram aleik...( I am tired now, have mercy) ;-)
QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:
[b]Ok Jen,
I said "Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer".
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 20 November 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by Monica:
I guess I'll have to take a couple of days off work, in order to respond to these evil issues...Et'halakt, haram aleik...( I am tired now, have mercy) ;-)
QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:
[b]Ok Jen,
I said "Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer".[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 20 November 2003).]
Ok, ok
Take your time but I would like to hear your opinion.
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I will base my opinion on real life stories; I guess you'll have to take my word for it;-)
Tesbah ala kheir, Adoula!
(Translation: hope you wake up well, or an expression used in Egypt for, Guten nakht...Buona notte, Good night, Bonne nuit, Buenas noches)
Monica
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok, ok
Take your time but I would like to hear your opinion.
As it is the weekend now, I shall step aside from this discussion and let Monica provce my point (no pressure, Monica, but beware, Adoula answers only to the points of your arguments in which he sees a weakness, all your good points will be cordially ignored!)
And be prepared, I shall be back soon!!!
So far as per my information from the Bible, I can’t think of a single angel who is a woman. The biblical angels have male names--Gabriel and Michael and Raphael.
I have to admit that I have always preferred the company of women to men (probably because I don't like football)....lol
If you are a male, you will find that there are many wonderful and unexpected advantages in having a colleague or a friend who is a woman.
So, what I like about women.
Hmmm... I'll just list stuff at random.
1- Different way of seeing the world. Without getting into the whole logical thing, it is true that women (or at least the ones I know) just see things differently than men. They notice different angles or aspects of a situation that most men will miss, and having women involved on projects (work, planning a camping trip, whatever) helps broaden my view.
2- Most women are really beautiful, for starters. But beauty isn't the issue. Beauty doesn't necessarily make a great companion or a great friend. Indeed, sometimes beauty can twist a woman's personality. But most of them seem to be able to deal with it.
3- Most women are givers, too, and seem to have a natural consideration. They also know how to understand the language spoken by children, which is an enormously useful skill.
4- I like the grace with which many woman walk and move. They simply float on air at times.
And mostly, I love the way a woman smiles. No matter how beautiful or not she is, when a woman sincerely smiles, it's brighter than a star!
5- I like the noises they make. Guys only talk, yell, or grunt. Women make little chirps, sighs, and bird noises, along with having marvelous inflections in their speech. I have about four inflections - Churchill, Hitler, Roosevelt, and Cletus. The average woman, in contrast, is an opera singer. They also do all these little things with their head and posture that I totally miss. Where'd they ever learn this stuff?
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adoula777@yahoo.com
When a man and a woman get together the outcome can be very funny, whether they are married or not.
And remeber: in the beginning, God created earth and rested. Then God created man and rested. Then God created woman. Since then, neither God nor man has rested.
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OK, so why on earth do you want my opinion my friend? khallass - over- you are convinced already; and why should I speak incessantly (he he he that is sooo evil by the way!) and sound like a beeeeeee...bzzzzbzzzbz in your angelic ear, and of course totally lose your attention at one point...
Khaleena esshab ahssan ( better to keep this friendship )
Wala eih???? ( or what?)
In all good (evelish) spirit ;-))
your friend,
Monica
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Monica,
If U will give me a real life stories, I can give U hundreads.When a man and a woman get together the outcome can be very funny, whether they are married or not.
And remeber: in the beginning, God created earth and rested. Then God created man and rested. Then God created woman. Since then, neither God nor man has rested.
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 21 November 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
From the most ancient times, men have insisted that women were responsible for male failure. Eve, after all, tempted Adam.
"I always found it funny when someone said women are worse because it was their sin that people has to leave the Garden of Eden because it was Eve who made Adam eat the forbidden fruit. Now think of it, it took Satan himself to make the woman doing something wrong, and it took only a woman to make the man commit this sin... so who is better?" -- originally posted by me at EgyptTalk (it is interesting that the same topics come up on all three boards -- it is clear that most of us visit all of them
quote:
Women distract men from higher things. Women must be robed or segregated from men at prayer.
Women distract men while men do not disctract women = men have a dirty mind while women can concentrate on other things than sex even if a male is near.
quote:
In recent years, Hollywood has suddenly become preoccupied with evil women.
I don't see how does it prove that women are evil. You know not everything you see in movies is true. (well... who knows, maybe we are living in the Matrix after all?)
quote:
Is there, after all, a male anywhere in the world as bad as Madonna?
Bush. Bin Laden. Hitler. Stalin. Nero. Charles Manson. Jack the Ripper. I think these guys have done worse things than making some awful songs and music videos.
quote:
Mary Magdalene, the whore who was befriended by Christ, the street woman who becomes the first evangelist.
I guess that was more than friendship
BTW Adoula I'm not attacking you, I just enjoy quarrelling in a civilized manner which is a refreshing change after the things that happen on ET in these days.
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Jen,
Ok, I will agree with U that women are not evils, so do U think they are angels????Yes, angels we are!
So far as per my information from the Bible, I can’t think of a single angel who is a woman. The biblical angels have male names--Gabriel and Michael and Raphael.
I think you'll find them on earth and not in heaven
I have to admit that I have always preferred the company of women to men (probably because I don't like football)....lol
If you are a male, you will find that there are many wonderful and unexpected advantages in having a colleague or a friend who is a woman.
So, what I like about women.
Hmmm... I'll just list stuff at random.
1- Different way of seeing the world. Without getting into the whole logical thing, it is true that women (or at least the ones I know) just see things differently than men. They notice different angles or aspects of a situation that most men will miss, and having women involved on projects (work, planning a camping trip, whatever) helps broaden my view.
2- Most women are really beautiful, for starters. But beauty isn't the issue. Beauty doesn't necessarily make a great companion or a great friend. Indeed, sometimes beauty can twist a woman's personality. But most of them seem to be able to deal with it.
3- Most women are givers, too, and seem to have a natural consideration. They also know how to understand the language spoken by children, which is an enormously useful skill.
4- I like the grace with which many woman walk and move. They simply float on air at times.
And mostly, I love the way a woman smiles. No matter how beautiful or not she is, when a woman sincerely smiles, it's brighter than a star!
5- I like the noises they make. Guys only talk, yell, or grunt. Women make little chirps, sighs, and bird noises, along with having marvelous inflections in their speech. I have about four inflections - Churchill, Hitler, Roosevelt, and Cletus. The average woman, in contrast, is an opera singer. They also do all these little things with their head and posture that I totally miss. Where'd they ever learn this stuff?
How lovely Adoula, you just made up for those remarks earlier on. This reminds me of another goodie in women: we forget and forgive quickly
But I'm sure this are not our only advantages??? Please keep them coming 
oh and by the way it is ok to exaggerate slightly
well ok to be honest men have some advantages, too. as many women would agree, it is sometimes easier for women to have male friends than to have female friends. the reasons are:
1 - they have this rational way of thinking
2 - you have an argument but once you have reached a compomise the heated argument is FORGOTTEN
3 - you can just 'hang out' without actually having to do anything, apart from playing backgammon of course
4 - if you're upset about something (eg work) you can go for a booze-up with a aman and after that the whole thing is forgotten and you move on (sorry to all muslims, please fo not be offended by the fact that alcohol is mentioned, however, it does belong to our culture)
5 - they are not pretentious, i.e you can say what you mean AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN and they won't be offended
6 - but if they are offended they will tell you without making a big fuss...
ok, Adoula, of course I would agree with you that women are wonderful and that men do have some nice characteristics, too!
gute nacht,
msjen
Let me post a short text. I 'borrowed' it from a 12 years old (daughter of a dear friend).
"We once lived in a great land, a land of happy people with happy stories. But then to our horror, a group of hideous creatures invaded our lands...All they did was bully us and boss us around... Until one day we got very mad and decided to stand up for our happy land, and we started a fight for our right, and that led to a war, that led to injuries and death, and many tears from mothers and fathers and children.... Evil caught up with all of us. Can we ever defeat our troubles? There is not much time, but I have hope!"
"Neveen"
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Monica,
If U will give me a real life stories, I can give U hundreads.When a man and a woman get together the outcome can be very funny, whether they are married or not.
And remeber: in the beginning, God created earth and rested. Then God created man and rested. Then God created woman. Since then, neither God nor man has rested.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by msjen:
[B] How lovely Adoula, you just made up for those remarks earlier on. This reminds me of another goodie in women: we forget and forgive quickly
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 21 November 2003).]
JAWOHL, devilishshshshshhhhh
OK, so why on earth do you want my opinion my friend? khallass - over- you are convinced already; and why should I speak incessantly (he he he that is sooo evil by the way!) and sound like a beeeeeee...bzzzzbzzzbz in your angelic ear, and of course totally lose your attention at one point...
Khaleena esshab ahssan ( better to keep this friendship )
Wala eih???? ( or what?)
In all good (evelish) spirit ;-))
your friend,
Monica
one point i forgot to mention: men are sometimes self-destructive ... ever seen the movie 'Fight Club' ???
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Originally posted by Monica:
Seriously, my opinion has not changed much...I truly believe that it depends on our own experiences with both genders. In some cases, more men are evil in certain aspects, and the opposite is also true.Let me post a short text. I 'borrowed' it from a 12 years old (daughter of a dear friend).
"We once lived in a great land, a land of happy people with happy stories. But then to our horror, a group of hideous creatures invaded our lands...All they did was bully us and boss us around... Until one day we got very mad and decided to stand up for our happy land, and we started a fight for our right, and that led to a war, that led to injuries and death, and many tears from mothers and fathers and children.... Evil caught up with all of us. Can we ever defeat our troubles? There is not much time, but I have hope!"
"Neveen"
[QUOTE]Originally posted by msjen:
[B] How lovely Adoula, you just made up for those remarks earlier on. This reminds me of another goodie in women: we forget and forgive quickly
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 21 November 2003).]
WOW impressive that this is from a 12-year old. Which country does she live in? But charming, Monica, this is a nice new direction of this thread
ms jen jen xxx
) She has so much talent that anyone who has actually listen to her lyrics and/or seen her perform cannot deny it.But REALLY PEOPLE COME ON... A BATTLE OF THE SEXES Isn't it just a little passé ???
Lizbeth
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Egyptian 5 years old girl: I'm the beautiful princess and you are the prince.
Egyptian 5 years old boy: No. I'm the King.
Egyptian 5 years old girl: Ok. I'm the beautiful princess and you're the beautiful king, and you have to rescue me.
Egyptian 5 years old boy: Yes. You are locked in an awful big castle, and you cry all the time because your father locked you up.
Egyptian 5 years old girl: No. A dangerous creature locked me up, not my father.
Egyptian 5 years old boy: And it's all tall and bad and you look out of the window, and see me riding on my white horse, to rescue you.
Egyptian 5 years old girl: Booooo booooo, rescue me, my king.
Egyptian 5 years old boy: But say first that I'm the handsomest, and the bravest, and the wonderfulest king you ever saw, and that you will love me forever:
Egyptian 5 years old girl: OKAY OKAY, but rescue me please!
In all good spirit, as usual...
Monica
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Monica,
If U will give me a real life stories, I can give U hundreads.When a man and a woman get together the outcome can be very funny, whether they are married or not.
And remeber: in the beginning, God created earth and rested. Then God created man and rested. Then God created woman. Since then, neither God nor man has rested.
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 22 November 2003).]
quote:
Originally posted by Monica:
Adoula, I feel like sharing a very short 'Egyptian' little story - that could also be considered universal -
Monica, so what are we to lean from that?
a) boy and girl find common ground ealisy, OR
b) boy and girl only want to play if the other accepts their 'rules', ie the boy will only play IF the girls tells him how great he is and the girl will only play IF the boy play according to her rules, OR
c) boy and girl have their pre-concptions as to how they are to socially interact with one another (ie boy strong rescuer and girl weak princess)..., OR
d) ...
any suggestions?
personally i think the boy was more evil than the girl, as he wanted to put her through horror before rescuing her and becoming her hero ...
Adoula would you agree with me on this point?
In traditional stories, folk or fairy, boys get the active roles.
It does not matter where the stories originate.
Girls either get support roles or they are princesses, often becoming ‘princessified’ during the story. Of course, this doesn’t happen if they are ugly or have large feet.....lol
Anyway, to be to the point, I think this girl was more evil than the boy....lol
The girl wanted the boy to rescue her, without knowing if he is ready for that or not, she wanted him to fight the big creature to rescue her, and do not want to tell him the he is the best king to encourage him....
U see she was an evil even in the story...lol
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1- Power trips, deranged minds, crucial circumstances, survival, and finally weakness, play a role in activating the evil in people
And...
2- The weaker gender -at time of evil action- is probably the most evil!
Also, at time of evil action, the weaker gender could be:
a) the one that needs to control to feel powerful, but is in reality weak and shallow and will probably win the battle over an ignorant, naive other... until that other wakes up and takes action...probably evil too.
b)the one that manipulates by pretending to be weak, giving the egotistic one a field trip, but reaching the goal by machination and manipulation, therefore, winning the battle, until the other one wakes up etc...etc...
And my friends, I'm convinced that both genders take those roles at some point and time.
Solution:
1)When you sense that you're about to be attacked by a VERY evil one, if diplomacy doesn't work - which could also be considered evil -then...ruuuuuuuuuuun ...move out, change name, change game, change all. Fight back only if, you are capable of as much evil .......before it's too late that is!
2) When in turn YOU sense the urge of BEING evil attacking you, if you still have some sense, seek professional help.
Some will say that prayers calm the bad spirits, others say yoga, exercice, work, good deeds, travel, education etc..etc..etc... the options are all there, if you really want to get the evil out of you, whoever you are! Try them all and adopt what suits you.
If you are a survivor of evil actions, you could write a book and make some cash in compensation if and only if, you get hold of an evilish publisher.
Adoula , msjen and all the contributors on this thread:
Peace....
Salam!
Monica
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Originally posted by msjen:
Monica, so what are we to lean from that?a) boy and girl find common ground ealisy, OR
b) boy and girl only want to play if the other accepts their 'rules', ie the boy will only play IF the girls tells him how great he is and the girl will only play IF the boy play according to her rules, OR
c) boy and girl have their pre-concptions as to how they are to socially interact with one another (ie boy strong rescuer and girl weak princess)..., OR
d) ...any suggestions?
personally i think the boy was more evil than the girl, as he wanted to put her through horror before rescuing her and becoming her hero ...
Adoula would you agree with me on this point?
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Originally posted by Aaliyah:
I guess that was more than friendship
BTW Adoula I'm not attacking you, I just enjoy quarrelling in a civilized manner which is a refreshing change after the things that happen on ET in these days.
Hi Aaliyah,
No matter what women might achieve in the world, the message of Genesis warns men not to trust them, and women not to trust themselves or each other. Whoever she might be and whatever her accomplishments, no woman can escape being identified with Eve, or being identified as her.
Attempts have also been made to correct the popular belief that Eve was a temptress who tempted Adam into eating the fruit despite the fact that according to Genesis 3:6, after she ate the fruit herself, she then "gave some to her husband and he ate."
Eve "tempted, beguiled, lured, corrupted, persuaded, taught, counseled, suggested, urged, used wicked persuasion, led into wrongdoing, proved herself an enemy, used guile and cozening, tears and lamentations, to prevail upon Adam."
So what do U think now??
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Ok, as I said before I just posted this to check others opinions.
Both good & evil in the hearts of men and women.
We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people still have these old fashioned thoughts. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!
And if someone proved that women are evil:
Women = Time x Money
Time = Money
Women = Money x Money
Money = Route of Evil
Women = Route of Evil x Route of Evil
Women = Evil
Honestly , I am not to proud to ruin this equation, but I should remind this man that from a properly algebrical point of view , he is WRONG.
Here is the reason:
General stuff: sqrt(sqr(x))=abs(x) and here is an exemple: sqrt(sqr(-2))=sqrt(4)=2=abs(-2)
So sqrt(sqr(evil))=abs(evil) and from a methaphorical point of view , the term evil is a negative value.
Therefore , abs(evil)=not evil=good
So , WOMEN ARE GOOD
I have the proof that men are even worst than Evil. http://www.anvari.org/fun/Gender/Proof_That_Men_Are_Even_Worse_Then_Evil.html
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adoula777@yahoo.com
Great sense of humour, Adoula!!!
Monica
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Dear Monica,Ok, as I said before I just posted this to check others opinions.
Both good & evil in the hearts of men and women.
We do not need more million dollar church buildings built while people still have these old fashioned thoughts. We do need a change of heart and a humble acknowledgment that this nation was founded on the principle of simple trust in God!
And if someone proved that women are evil:
Women = Time x Money
Time = Money
Women = Money x Money
Money = Route of Evil
Women = Route of Evil x Route of Evil
Women = EvilHonestly , I am not to proud to ruin this equation, but I should remind this man that from a properly algebrical point of view , he is WRONG.
Here is the reason:
General stuff: sqrt(sqr(x))=abs(x) and here is an exemple: sqrt(sqr(-2))=sqrt(4)=2=abs(-2)
So sqrt(sqr(evil))=abs(evil) and from a methaphorical point of view , the term evil is a negative value.
Therefore , abs(evil)=not evil=good
So , WOMEN ARE GOODI have the proof that men are even worst than Evil. http://www.anvari.org/fun/Gender/Proof_That_Men_Are_Even_Worse_Then_Evil.html
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 23 November 2003).]
happy jen
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Originally posted by Monica:
Wallahy!?Great sense of humour, Adoula!!!
Monica
To Wiccans, evil is a relative term, not an absolute. But Moslems and Christians have a conception of evil as something absolute.
What bothers me is that it is NOT to build a good society which is defining women as an evil.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaah, but wait
As a woman I would like to ask U: Have you ever noticed that the number of Evil women are much more higher than the number of Evil men??..lol
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adoula777@yahoo.com
This is just a strategy to let Monica talk more................lol
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adoula777@yahoo.com
Your 'competition' question got me talking for sure...check it out!
And by the way, when a woman is evil...she is really really really really evil...beware! he he he...
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Originally posted by Adoula:
To Wiccans, evil is a relative term, not an absolute. But Moslems and Christians have a conception of evil as something absolute.What bothers me is that it is NOT to build a good society which is defining women as an evil.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaah, but wait
As a woman I would like to ask U: Have you ever noticed that the number of Evil women are much more higher than the number of Evil men??..lol
Beleive me, talk of what evil men can do. It is beyond reason.
Where is evil Jen??
Just kidding
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adoula777@yahoo.com
Men (as in men and women) are contradictory creatures. They need to eat, drink, sleep and mate like any other animal. On the other hand, they also exhibit some traits no other creature has in terms of organization of human society, the ability to think and feel emotions far beyond animal instincts.
Also, human children require the longest and most careful period of loving care from their parents in order to develop properly. No animal requires this much time to mature.
(not to mention that despite this great care some of us do not really mature after all )
... but, imperfect as men are, no two people are endowed with the same degree of spirituality and "animality" - is this word correct?
The long years of development are meant to prepare the individual to negotiate his duality in his own mind. The same person can spend hours listening to Beethoven in concert or making love. Is one of the two more "evil" than the other? The answer is no. As Gandalf put it in "The Lord of the Rings", all we can do in our life is decide what to do with our time that is left to us.
So in the time left to us, shall we nurture our animal or our spiritual side? The answer to this question is the reason behind many religions. And yet the answer is simple: BOTH
We are naturally drawn to one side more than the other. A few people are more connected with the spiritual side. Some reach extremes. Einstein was a genius. However he looked like someone with other things on his mind than women.
The worse, I think, is for a person not to know her own limits, not accept hersef for who she is and not discipline herself in order to become what she wishes to become.
Most people, I think, are lazy and drawn to the animal life. If allowed, they will spend all day eating, drinking, smoking perhaps making sex (and perhaps shopping - I know a few people like that) and generally pampering the animal inside. These activities, however, do not bring money and the necessary things to live. So the lazy person must discipline herself in order to survive, and must limit or postpone some activities in favor of others. This is an act of spirituality because this decision comes from the brain, not the animal side. And it is a decision many people are not happy with.
If someone is adult, they will understand and assume responsability for themselves. If not, so they try to blame someone.
Since traditionally women were at home with the children, the man had to work. He had to discipline himself. So he blames the woman for "distracting him from his work" SUCH BULLSHIT.
So what do men say - you distract me from my work? It is actually the other way around. Work distracts men from more pleasureble passing of time.
Dear men, for once in your life admit it.
Lori
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By the way Lori, did you get the email I sent today? if not I will send it again!
But we have a nice issue on the 'competition thread page 7 and 8. Please take a look if you'd like, and join the discussion.
Monica
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Originally posted by Lori:
Well my two cents in all this "evil" stuff:Men (as in men and women) are contradictory creatures. They need to eat, drink, sleep and mate like any other animal. On the other hand, they also exhibit some traits no other creature has in terms of organization of human society, the ability to think and feel emotions far beyond animal instincts.
Also, human children require the longest and most careful period of loving care from their parents in order to develop properly. No animal requires this much time to mature.
(not to mention that despite this great care some of us do not really mature after all
... but, imperfect as men are, no two people are endowed with the same degree of spirituality and "animality" - is this word correct?
The long years of development are meant to prepare the individual to negotiate his duality in his own mind. The same person can spend hours listening to Beethoven in concert or making love. Is one of the two more "evil" than the other? The answer is no. As Gandalf put it in "The Lord of the Rings", all we can do in our life is decide what to do with our time that is left to us.
So in the time left to us, shall we nurture our animal or our spiritual side? The answer to this question is the reason behind many religions. And yet the answer is simple: BOTH
We are naturally drawn to one side more than the other. A few people are more connected with the spiritual side. Some reach extremes. Einstein was a genius. However he looked like someone with other things on his mind than women.
The worse, I think, is for a person not to know her own limits, not accept hersef for who she is and not discipline herself in order to become what she wishes to become.
Most people, I think, are lazy and drawn to the animal life. If allowed, they will spend all day eating, drinking, smoking perhaps making sex (and perhaps shopping - I know a few people like that) and generally pampering the animal inside. These activities, however, do not bring money and the necessary things to live. So the lazy person must discipline herself in order to survive, and must limit or postpone some activities in favor of others. This is an act of spirituality because this decision comes from the brain, not the animal side. And it is a decision many people are not happy with.
If someone is adult, they will understand and assume responsability for themselves. If not, so they try to blame someone.
Since traditionally women were at home with the children, the man had to work. He had to discipline himself. So he blames the woman for "distracting him from his work" SUCH BULLSHIT.
So what do men say - you distract me from my work? It is actually the other way around. Work distracts men from more pleasureble passing of time.
Dear men, for once in your life admit it.
Lori
You probably know some of Robert Burns poetic lines:
Robert Burns wasn’t the first—nor will he be the last—to draw upon analogies to describe the opposite sex.
Women are gorgeous, sensual, wonderfully contradictory creatures that drive men absolutely batty. If women didn’t exist… men would never bathe and would be drinking beer, watching ESPN around the clock, never accomplishing anything worthwhile.
He said: Women are like… onions. They make you cry, even when you peel their wrappings off.
But wait, on the other hand, it is often said (usually by women :-) that men are inconsiderate, lack perception and sensitivity, and are not particularly observant.
Women remain more personal in their interests and less concerned with abstractions than men on the same level of intelligence and culture.
While men are happily generalizing, making judgments on this and that, and forgetting for the time being themselves and all their concerns, women are brooding over the particular and personal application and are wondering what hidden motive, what secret desire, what stifled memory of joy or hurt, are there prompting our thought.
But this habit of mind in women does not spoil talk; on the contrary it improves it, restoring the balance. . . . It is the habit of men to be overconfident in their impartiality, to believe that they are god-like intellects, detached from desires and hopes and fears and disturbing memories, generalizing and delivering judgment in a serene mid-air.
Granted, we are as different as Mars versus Venus, apples and oranges, or night and day. But think about it: planets are planets, fruit are fruit, and time is time. Are we really so different after all?
Now to the Evil point:
Shall we nurture our animal or our spiritual side?
I believe that every human has their own unique path to knowing God, to remembering God and the Divine in all beings, and within themselves. I also believe we each have a unique path to learning how to love and be loved. For some of us, this path is lined with animals--being with them, near them, exchanging love with them, being guided and inspired by them, at times just looking at them.
To become truly human we need to understand that we are one with all things.
There is an interesting quote;
The function of Theosophists is to open men's hearts and understandings to charity, justice, and generosity, attributes which belong specifically to the human kingdom and are natural to man when he has developed the qualities of a human being. Theosophy teaches the animal-man to be a human-man; and when people have learned to think and feel as truly human beings should feel and think, they will act humanely, and works of charity, justice, and generosity will be done spontaneously by all.
A wonderful vision this. If we act from our true nature, the higher part of our nature, then we will truly function as human beings and develop an undying love for all things. The true Path lies in widening the sphere of our Love.
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adoula777@yahoo.com
The wise man knows the Self,
And he plays the game of life,
But the fool lives in the world
Like a beast of burden.
This means that he who has realized that the Self is everything and has attuned himself to the permanent part of his nature, sees life as a game which has to be played by its rules, while the "fool," which is another name for the ignorant, lives in the world like a beast of burden, getting stressed out about every little thing that he or she regards as being of importance.
I know it well, one who lives a life of material wealth or intellectual glory, though they may be lauded in this life, are spiritually bankrupt, whereas one who lives a quiet, anonymous life—studying spiritual literature, meditating and trying his or her best to help and inspire others, is gaining the true wealth. Such people are becoming "human" and finding that the real heaven is in the human heart and in the beauty and understanding gained from breaking down the barriers mentioned on my other message.
These are qualities that may seem a long way from our lives, but they are the principles that make us human.
But to all my Evil Wise friends:
Of course these are all ideals to be worked towards.
So what can we do in this crazy life to reach such wisdom?
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adoula777@yahoo.com
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Originally posted by msjen:
Can't believe you Adoula, you finally admitted that men are more evil than women !!!happy jen
ALMOST got back in myself...lol
They are Evil, but the point is who is better, GOOD OR EVIL?
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[This message has been edited by Adoula (edited 24 November 2003).]
Neither men nor women are evil. Men and women need each other for companionship, comfort, and just plainly to prove we are human and live in a society.
Yet many people seem to think other people are evil. If you don't have any friends, you spend time in chat rooms and bingo! you've got "friends". You can turn them off at the push of a button and there are no dirty coffee cups to wash when they leave. Do you think women are evil but want some sex? There is a wide choice of substitutes from videos to inflatable dolls and possibly other stuff too, I am not a specialist. And here same thing, no emotional baggage, no need for cuddling afterwards and no breakfast in the morning.
WHAT A SHITTY WAY TO LIVE
My point is that this kind of thinking and behaving stems from a deep fear of people. If we go out and meet people, our friendship may be rejected, and we fear that. If the opposite sex rejects us, the pain is double because we feel it twice as deep.
But if we don't accept people as they are and we don't go out there and make friends and fall in love and take a risk and discover ourselves in the process, what else is there?
Personally I think that hiding behind pre-conception and avoiding the company of real live people of whatever gender for whatever reason is a pathetic way to live. People are as they are. Good AND evil. This is what makes them interesting and this is what makes life worth living.
Ashkar said something along the line of not wanting a perfect man for fear she would then have to be perfect as well. I coulnd't agree more.
There is a saying that it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
The great William Wallace, as quoted by Mel Gibson in Braveheart, said: "ALL PEOPLE DIE, BUT NOT ALL PEOPLE LIVE".
Go out there and meet people and fall in love and LIVE for God's sake! Enjoy the company of people, with the good and evil they have in them. Although the ancient Egyptians thought otherwise, we can only be sure to live ONCE. So live!
Lori
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Monica (waiting to see the reaction!)
quote:
Originally posted by Lori:
Robert Burns, a lovely poet, lived two hundred or so years ago. Mentalities change.Neither men nor women are evil. Men and women need each other for companionship, comfort, and just plainly to prove we are human and live in a society.
Yet many people seem to think other people are evil. If you don't have any friends, you spend time in chat rooms and bingo! you've got "friends". You can turn them off at the push of a button and there are no dirty coffee cups to wash when they leave. Do you think women are evil but want some sex? There is a wide choice of substitutes from videos to inflatable dolls and possibly other stuff too, I am not a specialist. And here same thing, no emotional baggage, no need for cuddling afterwards and no breakfast in the morning.
WHAT A SHITTY WAY TO LIVE
My point is that this kind of thinking and behaving stems from a deep fear of people. If we go out and meet people, our friendship may be rejected, and we fear that. If the opposite sex rejects us, the pain is double because we feel it twice as deep.
But if we don't accept people as they are and we don't go out there and make friends and fall in love and take a risk and discover ourselves in the process, what else is there?
Personally I think that hiding behind pre-conception and avoiding the company of real live people of whatever gender for whatever reason is a pathetic way to live. People are as they are. Good AND evil. This is what makes them interesting and this is what makes life worth living.
Ashkar said something along the line of not wanting a perfect man for fear she would then have to be perfect as well. I coulnd't agree more.
There is a saying that it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
The great William Wallace, as quoted by Mel Gibson in Braveheart, said: "ALL PEOPLE DIE, BUT NOT ALL PEOPLE LIVE".
Go out there and meet people and fall in love and LIVE for God's sake! Enjoy the company of people, with the good and evil they have in them. Although the ancient Egyptians thought otherwise, we can only be sure to live ONCE. So live!
Lori
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Where is evil Jen??
EVIL??? MOI???? 
nb it wasn't mentioned yet that evil women fight with tears
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Originally posted by Adoula:
So what can we do in this crazy life to reach such wisdom?
If you ask me I would check with some guy who calls himself Adoula, he normally knows everything
cold jen in the horrible weather 
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Originally posted by msjen:
If you ask me I would check with some guy who calls himself Adoula, he normally knows everythingcold jen in the horrible weather
Yes, William Wallace said: "ALL PEOPLE DIE, BUT NOT ALL PEOPLE LIVE".
And I would like to say: so what do U think if people try to live?
I will assure U, they will be disappointed....
Well, that's one lesson you gotta learn in this life: don't expect anything to turn out the way you think it is. Your expectations could get shot down.
So it is better to put this quote on its other form: Live Free or Die Trying
To live free of such ties, or die trying to reach an answer.
Now to the other point, U asked if men think that women are Evil, and want to make sex with them?
The answer is yes..let me explain
Do U know, Why do women fall in love? We know why us men fall in love. We fall in love with the great sex that women provides.
It isn't brain surgery. We all know that to be a fact. When you fall in love with a woman it isn't about how well diverse she is in Roman history, it is because she can do a good sex. There is a reason why God made it so that women can get pregnant.
Same for women, U think that a woman wants a man who is caring and sweet.
Let me say that this was 200 yrs ago, when girls were girls, men were men, and "power to the people" was more than a cutesy catchphrase for the young and pointlessly restless. I'm talking about a time when your family raised you instead of your school, a time when dad worked for one company for 30 or 40 years and got a gold pocket watch when he retired.
But now.....huh
We all want what we don't have. We see the rich people on television and we want to be like them. We see famous people who act in movies and we pretend to be like them. We see men slam dunking a basketball and we wish we could do it.
The same is true with a woman. She wants what she doesn't have. She is already emotional, she doesn't need more of that. She is already loving and kind, she doesn't want to get more of that. Have you ever looked at the big burley biker guy who has a hot chick next to him and wonder how he got her? I mean the guy looks like he hasn't bathed in a year and probably couldn't write a complete sentence if he was forced to. Women like the big macho guys. Men who strut their stuff and act like they don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Guys who act like this bang more women than you can count. Why? Why you ask that these guys get laid all the time? It is two reasons really.
One is that women are looking for something to fill the void. They have a gap inside them and they need someone to fill it. They don't need another woman, they need a real man who can take care of them. They want a man to protect them. After all, people are just animals. She wants a man who can take charge and protect her from the evil inside her and from the world. She wants to be a helpless damsel in distress. Some women like a man who has been around sexually. That drives them wild. If they think you are a stud, then you will be able to please them in bed.
I think this goes back to the animal qualities in people. If you have had sex with lots of women, then you have passed on your genes to a lot of women. If this is the case, then you are a superior male. Only a superior male would get laid so many times in the animal world.
And U still asks if a man don't have friends, so why he go to chat rooms or bingo and not to go to women.
The answer is simple, because they are evil creatures, so it is better to men if they live free and not to die trying.
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[This message has been edited by Adoula (edited 24 November 2003).]
i think that adoula has sussed it out, so please find below some advice on how to find a suitable partner:
* check out that he hasn't been near a bath or any other form of running water for at least a month. you can do this if by getting approximately 10 metres close to him, if you don't sense a pungent smell, forget him
* make sure that he's "been around" quite a bit. you can sense that he can handle a woman well if he moves around in a kind of aprupt and un-coordinated manner and if he sometimes trips over his own feet. if he acts brutally whilst handling things such as doorknobs, cups, whatever he touches, then that is even better (it means that he has leant from experience that 'things' (including women) like that kind of touch.
* check out that he can't read or write: ask him to write down his name and telephone number.
if he doesn't want to do that, write down your own name and number for him . ONLY IF HE DOESN'T CALL, run aftr him and get on your knees for him to shag you. if he calls, however, forget him as that means that he can read.
* if he simply ignores you, that is also a good sign.
so girls, get your whip out 
this was for all the evil ones amongst us, thank you adoula for inspiring me to help them.
and now for all the good ones:
monica, lori, jamilah, fanta, aaliyah, lisbeth and all others
would you join my keep fit campaign so we can run FAST as soon as we spot one of them??? 
and now to all non-evil and charming men out there: just hang on for a few weeks from now as the evil type will soon be extinct! (their level of intelligence does not allow them to use a whip in a co-ordinated manner ... hehe)
adoula by the way i have never heard the expression 'to be a good sex' before ... i always thought that it takes TWO (!) to tango ... but i'm meeting some friends tonight so i'll test them on their english vocabulary skills
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Originally posted by Jamilah:
I just want to state this:
"If there is no a woman in a man's life he would be deprived of help at the beginning, pleasure - in the middle , and consolations -at the end "
Ok Jamilah,
I'm thankful that the Creator made male and female. I will not get into who came first, such as the jokes that go, "God didn't quite get it right with men, and tried again and made females." Wouldn't this world be less interesting if there were only one gender?
Aaaaaah, but back to myself, if there were no men in the world, the wheel probably never would have been invented, and then where would U be? (Stuck at home!)
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adoula777@yahoo.com
In order to be safe, I decided to lighten this thread a little bit.
U have the right to choose, either U R Evils with Angels wings, or Angels with Evils minds??
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adoula777@yahoo.com
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Now to all Evil women out there...In order to be safe, I decided to lighten this thread a little bit.
U have the right to choose, either U R Evils with Angels wings, or Angels with Evils minds??
check this one out, you won't know what's evil and wot's good if you look at it for more than 20 seconds ... hehe 
quote:
Originally posted by Adoula:
Now to all Evil women out there...In order to be safe, I decided to lighten this thread a little bit.
U have the right to choose, either U R Evils with Angels wings, or Angels with Evils minds??
As for me ... how about and Angel with a flaming pitchfork
Reserved for only the most deserving of course. But hey, some of those evil men might LIKE it-hehehaha. It takes all kinds they say.
And what's wrong with a little a stab in the ass if it's done out of LOVE
Gotta keep them on their toes!!!!
a mild fire hazard ,
Lizbeth
This is an evil then but.. mau be not 'cause there is no another choice then...
I don't no where i could be i never thought about it may be there wouldn't be me at all, and you and other members of this board..
Adoula,
i stated that if there is no women in men's life like he refuses the woman's presence in his life not like the whole female gender in the world
As for evil with angel's wings or angel with evil mind, i can't define what i am may be sometimes with evil mind like an angel
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jamilah,
I'm thankful that the Creator made male and female. I will not get into who came first, such as the jokes that go, "God didn't quite get it right with men, and tried again and made females." Wouldn't this world be less interesting if there were only one gender?Aaaaaah, but back to myself, if there were no men in the world, the wheel probably never would have been invented, and then where would U be? (Stuck at home!)
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Originally posted by Adoula:
no men in the world, the wheel probably never would have been invented, and then where would U be? (Stuck at home!)
Okay, so now I'm waiting for the historical evidence which proves wheel was invented by men
As for Adam and Eve, it's easy to blame her but didn't Adam have a mind on his own? He had the choice to whether eat that damn fruit or not...
Exactly, this is the way I would like to portray them.
While we think of spiritual height and moral purity of females, their minds are full of material wealth.
Huh, and they say: Women are the "weaker sex?" Yeah right. Bite me…..lol
To Lizbeth and Jamilah:
Despite their physical weakness, they wield enough power to affect the surrounding people.
And they use this power to realize their insane whims and fancies, which we men usually tend to ignore as weird but intrinsic features of female psychology.
In general I see no remarkable source of the moral evil other than that within women.
It's significant that just the first woman, Eve, has been portrayed as the culprit of all the troubles of humankind, in the crucial myth of the Bible.
The analogous Greek myth indicates the woman named Pandora in a similar role.
Practically any vice of human nature, such as spite, irascibility, jealousy, greed, materialism, power lust, arrogance, vanity, conceit, immodesty, intolerance, ingratitude, tactlessness, insidiousness, hypocrisy, captiousness etc. should be acknowledged as a typical feature of female psychology but women's real nature is implicit because of their weakness.
And only in women these vices have physiological basis.
But we usually tend to wink at women's vices because we need them. Besides, we likely view a woman's vices as only her individual ones because they disagree to the proper female nature.
We only wish to see kind fairies in women, while according to their common notion men ought to be severe ruffians.
So, who are really kind and who are really severe? It's clear that everyone tends to assign their own qualities to the other people! Also each sex only try to play the role expected by the other, and compel the other to meet its own character.
To Aaliyah,
Eve agreed that perhaps The Almighty God was not as omnipotent as He liked to think and wouldn't it be a great improvement to have power over Man. She felt sure she would be better at being in charge. U see how much she have a materialistic view of things.
In fact, Adam and Eve were not the most successful of God creations so far. In fact He hadn't had a moments rest ever since he made them. He couldn't have come up with a worse pair. Adam was arrogant and lazy, Eve manipulative.
God knows why but Adam had struggled to understand why He needed to create another person in the first place and his whining had only stopped when God explained that He had created Woman in order to help do all the things Man couldn't. He gave up all hope of improvement when Adam barely listened to His big speech on which fruits they could and couldn't eat, only having eyes for the naked Woman standing in front of him.
U see, naked Eve gave the fruit to Adam, that is why he didn’t have a thought about anything rather than the kiss will be coming next to that…….
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That's not very hard to figure out.
If Adam was alone in the garden, what do he usually do in such circumstances?
Curiosity gets the best of him.
While he may fear God enough not to actually pop the forbidden fruit into his mouths, he might find himself wandering by the forbidden tree more often than usual.
Think of all the ways he could enjoy this tree without actually eating from it.
He could sniff it; that wouldn't be eating it. He could lick it. Technically, that wouldn't be eating it, either. He could break it open and use its juice as a perfume or an air freshener. He could play catch with the fruit.
He could make wreaths out of the leaves. He could actually spend a lot of time fiddling around with this tree without actually eating any of the fruit.
Poor kind father (Adam), the Evil Eve was there, that is why U R out of the garden now....
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok,
I like my Evil mother (Eve)
Put yourself in her place for a moment. God has placed you in a garden and given you permission to eat freely of every tree in the garden but one. Now you're alone in the garden. No one's watching. What do you do?
personally, i can think of a million better things to do than to eat an apple
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Originally posted by msjen:
personally, i can think of a million better things to do than to eat an apple
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Originally posted by Monica:
Like:
????
Monica
wot do you think of me!!!
but good one, made me laugh ...
But U see Evil Eve left Adam alone and went to socialize with the snake...lol
Didn't tried to cook for him and just thought of getting some junk food.
To all Adam sons in this world, pls. know your enemy.......lol
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok jen,
It was a nice one from Monica.But U see Evil Eve left Adam alone and went to socialize with the snake...lol
Didn't tried to cook for him and just thought of getting some junk food.
To all Adam sons in this world, pls. know your enemy.......lol
JUNK FOOD??? SNAKES??? don't tell the chinese ... lol
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Originally posted by msjen:
JUNK FOOD??? SNAKES??? don't tell the chinese ... lol
Funny Jen,
May be the reason that Evil Eve convinced Angel Adam to eat from the forbidden fruit from the tree of the knowledge that she didn't wanted to cook to him. So she went to home delivery, but it was a bad home delivery by a snake.
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Funny Jen,
May be the reason that Evil Eve convinced Angel Adam to eat from the forbidden fruit from the tree of the knowledge that she didn't wanted to cook to him. So she went to home delivery, but it was a bad home delivery by a snake.
Funny Adoula
got another version, adam wanted THAT apple and no other; he took it and he eat it and then blamed it on Eve and the snake
now wot do you make of that ...
eves know your enemy ... lol ...
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Originally posted by Adoula:
May be he got it because he was very hungry, and no food in the firdge.
So it was Eve fault.
Evil Eve!!
Maybe that was because Adam took away all her money to do the shopping as he thought that she was too materialistic!!!
Un-clever Adam!
... and this makes it his fault!!!
But she who was crazy about everything, so she spent all her money then got also the food money.
Poor Adam, your woman finished all your money.
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Maybe that eve was not a 'natural' beauty after all...she needed to buy too many 'things', to make her 'pwetty' and go the coiffeur way, instead of the wash and wear way, he he he...
Wow, I don't remember anymore on which side I was on this thread. Oh yes, with the circumstances...
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Originally posted by Adoula:
No
Adam was not greedy, he gave her money for her shopping, go to coiffeur and beauty salon.But she who was crazy about everything, so she spent all her money then got also the food money.
Poor Adam, your woman finished all your money.
He must be in the garden till now.....
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your arguments are flawed - there was no coiffeur and beauty salon in those days ... lol
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No self-control ...cheeky msjen
Adam was angry, spoiled (by Mama,) and terribly confused. And you can’t blame him.
He can not wait for three hours waiting for Eve to serve dinner.
She wants help with housework. He wants his dinner on time.
U know what was the dinner, rice with apples from the forbidden tree. And msjen still blame Adam not Eve.
Now what are we doing:
The years passed. Thousands of them. But things didn’t change much. Men still cut down trees, built concrete buildings, invented electricity, aeroplanes, plastic, conquered their natural environment.
They brought home the meat and potatoes and fed and clothed and protected generations of women.
The women cooked and had babies.
The years passed.Thousands of them. Men were the undisputed kings of castles, masters of homes. The strange thing is that women helped them maintain this position of power by in-fighting and competing over who could produce the most spoilt male.
But all these thousands of years, unknown to men, a slow revolution was brewing among the women folk. They began to ask questions. In England they asked why they couldn’t attend Cambridge. In India they fought to be educated. In Africa they refused to be circumcised. In Arabia they created schools for girls. In America they demanded the vote. They began to gather in groups in public places, and fight openly for their rights.
The men, seeing their power threatened, grew frightened. They kicked and fought to keep it. They called women who wanted simply to be respected as a human being or be given equal opportunities bad names, feminists, man haters, frustrated women.
Or let me say they called them Evil women.
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Sorry I was away till more than a week time but I used the chance of being public holiday and go to a quite place with friends without any communications with real world. I see I have lots to follow up and will be back soon. Missed u all,
Take care
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After all these years, and after the 'feminist' phase and the abuse of that term 'feminist' by other groups - with hidden agendas - faded somehow, where do Egyptian women stand presently, in your opinion? Are they still considered evil by the other gender? Is it an excuse for men to justify their unhappiness in the institution of marriage, where they don't 'really' feel comfortable anymore?
I see that behind the mask of education, intelligence, progress, modernism in some cases, most Egyptian women still need to be more self confident, I still see a problem of low self esteem there.
On the other side, I see that men are also suffering from a low self esteem and that tends to generate the super machoism, most of the time.
An infusion of self confidence is certainly needed. That's for starters.
Would you please add?
Monica
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Eve depended on Adam to bring home the meat, cut down trees for firewood.Adam was angry, spoiled (by Mama,) and terribly confused. And you can’t blame him.
He can not wait for three hours waiting for Eve to serve dinner.
She wants help with housework. He wants his dinner on time.
U know what was the dinner, rice with apples from the forbidden tree. And msjen still blame Adam not Eve.
Now what are we doing:
The years passed. Thousands of them. But things didn’t change much. Men still cut down trees, built concrete buildings, invented electricity, aeroplanes, plastic, conquered their natural environment.
They brought home the meat and potatoes and fed and clothed and protected generations of women.
The women cooked and had babies.
The years passed.Thousands of them. Men were the undisputed kings of castles, masters of homes. The strange thing is that women helped them maintain this position of power by in-fighting and competing over who could produce the most spoilt male.
But all these thousands of years, unknown to men, a slow revolution was brewing among the women folk. They began to ask questions. In England they asked why they couldn’t attend Cambridge. In India they fought to be educated. In Africa they refused to be circumcised. In Arabia they created schools for girls. In America they demanded the vote. They began to gather in groups in public places, and fight openly for their rights.
The men, seeing their power threatened, grew frightened. They kicked and fought to keep it. They called women who wanted simply to be respected as a human being or be given equal opportunities bad names, feminists, man haters, frustrated women.
Or let me say they called them Evil women.
[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 30 November 2003).]
The chief justice in ancient Egypt was a goddess named Maat, Egypt gave birth to the women's movement in the Middle East back in 1924 when feminist Hoda Sharaawi tore off her veil.
But modern Egyptian women haven't fared so well. Finally there was a push by First Lady Suzanne Mubarak, the unofficial cultural capital of the Middle East may soon appoint its first female justices, according to the National Council of Women, established by the president in 2000.
Women now work, vote and speak their minds to a much greater degree. But when it comes to self confidence, they fail.
Women now may have the choice to go out, but do you think all of their male counterparts would let them go out? It's their husbands and brothers and fathers that won't let them go out. The government gives more power to women than the culture.
It will take work, time and turmoil to change a culture that is dominated by men. And for now, it is not about the acting, speaking or even writing out of thoughts and desires, but rather, of acknowledging, embracing and giving worth to what is within.
Egypt's most famous feminist, Nawal el Saadawi argues that Muslim women are in a crisis, caught in a trench between the pressures of modernization and the power of the fundamentalists.
I am not convinced that women are going forward in Egypt; we are going backward," says el Saadawi, who once fled the country after Islamists declared her an apostate, attempted to dissolve her marriage, and threatened to kill her.
This isn't the end of the struggle for women's rights in Egypt, they still have far to go.
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Women now may have the choice to go out, but do you think all of their male counterparts would let them go out? It's their husbands and brothers and fathers that won't let them go out. The government gives more power to women than the culture.QUOTE
In this case it's good that men are used to eating apples. It frees the women from slaving in the kitchen.
Men, enjoy your apples, we are all going out to the beauty salon ... or wherever...
Lori the Free Woman
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People think their purpose is to please their bodies, when in fact it is to please their soul.
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Originally posted by Adoula:
when in fact it is to please their soul.
think most women know that ... it just helps to be happy with their body, tooo ...
diplomatic jen
May be everything wasn't like this how do you know?!?!?!?!? this is just what people tell nobody knows what is the TRUE!!!!!!
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Originally posted by msjen:
think most women know that ... it just helps to be happy with their body, tooo ...diplomatic jen
Ok diplomatic jen.
Women must make list of things they would do if they really love their body. Go one by one and start doing it.
But the most important thing is to be patient with themselves and not to leave Adam without food and go to the beauty salon...lol
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According to the Bible, Adam and Eve were the first man and the first woman. God created them already grown up and put them in a place called the Garden of Eden, where they could find everything they needed to live and where they could enjoy life.
The problem I have with this story the way it's written in the Bible is that it leaves out a lot of the stuff about how Adam and Eve learned how to live in the garden and how to treat each other and how to take care of things around them. In other words, Adam and Eve may have had grown-up bodies, but surely they were like babies when they were first made and they must have had a lot to learn.
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok Jamilah:According to the Bible, Adam and Eve were the first man and the first woman. God created them already grown up and put them in a place called the Garden of Eden, where they could find everything they needed to live and where they could enjoy life.
The problem I have with this story the way it's written in the Bible is that it leaves out a lot of the stuff about how Adam and Eve learned how to live in the garden and how to treat each other and how to take care of things around them. In other words, Adam and Eve may have had grown-up bodies, but surely they were like babies when they were first made and they must have had a lot to learn.
"Adam," she said, "open your eyes. Look around you. Can U see all this beautiness around.
Adam just laughed. "Don't be ridiculous, Eve."
I'm stronger than you," he said, "and I'm going to prove it."
"Oh Adam," she sighed, "you're not stronger than me, only bigger and made fierce by your obsession with this One thing."
Eve left him, she felt there is no hope with such relationship becuse there is no romance.
She met the snake, "Dear one," she asked, "what should I do about Adam and his obsession?"
"Show Adam something new." the snake answered.
Now, U know the rest of the story, the apple was this something new....
So Adam was an Evil coz he didn't responded to the romantic Eve.
Eve was an Evil coz she didn't respected Adam.
Certainly the snake was Evil also as it who recommended the solution.
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Originally posted by Jamilah:
You know why it's written like this because people should always and are tend to learn something new and find new decisions and ways of doing this or that, otherwise there wasn't interests to the life 'cause everybody could know their destiny (according to Adam and Eve).
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok, I will tell U the stroy as it happened."Adam," she said, "open your eyes. Look around you. Can U see all this beautiness around.
Adam just laughed. "Don't be ridiculous, Eve."
I'm stronger than you," he said, "and I'm going to prove it."
"Oh Adam," she sighed, "you're not stronger than me, only bigger and made fierce by your obsession with this One thing."
Eve left him, she felt there is no hope with such relationship becuse there is no romance.
She met the snake, "Dear one," she asked, "what should I do about Adam and his obsession?"
"Show Adam something new." the snake answered.
Now, U know the rest of the story, the apple was this something new....
So Adam was an Evil coz he didn't responded to the romantic Eve.
Eve was an Evil coz she didn't respected Adam.
Certainly the snake was Evil also as it who recommended the solution.
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok diplomatic jen.
Women must make list of things they would do if they really love their body. Go one by one and start doing it.But the most important thing is to be patient with themselves and not to leave Adam without food and go to the beauty salon...lol
please re-read un-diplomatic adoula!
'love their body' is different from 'being happy with it'
if you love your body too much it can easily become an obsession ... if you're happy with it your mind is free for other things in life !!!
unhappy jen
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok, I will tell U the stroy as it happened."Adam," she said, "open your eyes. Look around you. Can U see all this beautiness around.
Adam just laughed. "Don't be ridiculous, Eve."
I'm stronger than you," he said, "and I'm going to prove it."
"Oh Adam," she sighed, "you're not stronger than me, only bigger and made fierce by your obsession with this One thing."
Eve left him, she felt there is no hope with such relationship becuse there is no romance.
She met the snake, "Dear one," she asked, "what should I do about Adam and his obsession?"
"Show Adam something new." the snake answered.
Now, U know the rest of the story, the apple was this something new....
So Adam was an Evil coz he didn't responded to the romantic Eve.
Eve was an Evil coz she didn't respected Adam.
Certainly the snake was Evil also as it who recommended the solution.
i would like to contend that adam scored an additional evil point for haveing an obsession!!!
Ok now, come on, I got
it, let me share your thoughts who leaves you all the time hungry, without a dinner and go to a beauty salon?!?!?!?!:-)
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Ok, I will tell U the stroy as it happened."Adam," she said, "open your eyes. Look around you. Can U see all this beautiness around.
Adam just laughed. "Don't be ridiculous, Eve."
I'm stronger than you," he said, "and I'm going to prove it."
"Oh Adam," she sighed, "you're not stronger than me, only bigger and made fierce by your obsession with this One thing."
Eve left him, she felt there is no hope with such relationship becuse there is no romance.
She met the snake, "Dear one," she asked, "what should I do about Adam and his obsession?"
"Show Adam something new." the snake answered.
Now, U know the rest of the story, the apple was this something new....
So Adam was an Evil coz he didn't responded to the romantic Eve.
Eve was an Evil coz she didn't respected Adam.
Certainly the snake was Evil also as it who recommended the solution.
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Originally posted by Jamilah:
Dear friend Adoula,Ok now, come on, I got
it, let me share your thoughts who leaves you all the time hungry, without a dinner and go to a beauty salon?!?!?!?!:-)
hey jamilah
as the hungry man hasn't responded yet ... i think someone's fed him now what do you think?
I already took my dinner, went out with friends.
And hope all Evil women will enjoy their time in the beauty salons.
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I guess it was a diiner of reconciliation with your "EVIL WOMAN" ('cause we didn't hear from you for all time already )
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi Jamilah and Jen,I already took my dinner, went out with friends.
And hope all Evil women will enjoy their time in the beauty salons.
yet! I have a question, why U sit in one place for long periods of time and letting something blow extremely hot air on you?
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Hi I have a question, why U sit in one place for long periods of time and letting something blow extremely hot air on you?
hahaha this one I couldn't resist...Adoula every married women does it daily..but we have another name for it...."listening to your husband!" hahahaha
I think U must accept, as U who pushed....lol
So do U know what men say about listening to their wifes.....lol
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Originally posted by Adoula:
So do U know what men say about listening to their wifes.....lol
hey Adoula
... still waiting for an answer to this one ... lol
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I missed this thread, so let me add a little 'devilish' touch to it!
Surely, an evil person can be arrested and imprisoned, but can evil be arrested and imprisoned? No. Then, evil is in fact an absence.
We all know that the remedy for an absence is a presence, thus, if evil is an absence, it can't be healed with an absence.
And, hatred of evil will not diminish it, but increase it because it affects the one who hates, and it makes that person a hateful one.
So, if you strike against the darkness without compassion, you yourself will enter that circle of darkness. Therefore, a compassionate heart can fight evil directly and it can bring light, where there was darkness.
In all honesty, I seriously believe that the place where we have to begin eliminating evil, is within ourselves, humans.
Conclusion: Kindness and love, are obviously the appropriate response to evil!
Which means dear Adoula, that if you are sincerely convinced that all women are indeed evil, your only solution is to love them all!
Quite a punishment right?
Monica
QUOTE]Originally posted by Adoula:
Those are the Evil women.
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[This message has been edited by Monica (edited 07 December 2003).]
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Originally posted by msjen:
hey Adoula... still waiting for an answer to this one ... lol
[This message has been edited by msjen (edited 07 December 2003).]
Well Jen,
Women say, "I can't get him to open up! He just doesn't listen! I know there is something inside but, I can't get it out of him."
There may be a ring of truth in the female complaint that men never seem to listen to a word they say.
When men and women come together in conversation, problems may arise - because the two genders are, in effect, speaking in different styles.
Men often don't understand what women "really" mean when they speak. Many a joke has been made about the fact.
Do U know:
A Man’s Guide to the Scoring System...
When she wants to talk, you listen, displaying a concerned expression: +20
When she wants to talk, you listen, for over 30 minutes: +5
You listen for more than 30 minutes, without looking at the television: +10
She realizes this is because you’ve fallen asleep: -10
NOW:
Here is the answer U R waiting:
Listening to wifes is very relaxing and make men fall a sleep quickly.....lol
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Im a simple man. All I want is enough sleep for two normal men, enough Turkish coffee for three, and enough women for four.
But to love them all is impossible.....lol
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Or is this a dead thread, forever? but we can revive it ....or is it not so cool anymore...only kidding! pulling your leg...
Take care!
Monica
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Monica,
Do U know that: man is a natural polygamist. He always has one woman leading him by the nose and another hanging on to his coattails.
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?That could start an exciting conversation...[maybe]!!
In all good spirit always!
Monica
PS: BTW, do you know what would be the Arabization of the expression:'Wooooow' in Egypt??
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Show me a woman who isn't an Evil and I'll show you a real man.
I think real men must control evil women............lol
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So what do U prefer: to be smart and live alone, or to be an evil and have the guy who knows how to cook, who sends flowers, and who is so romantic and loving?
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let's have a party he he he!!!The evil women conspiracy vs the perfect catch! Hey it sounds right somehow!
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Originally posted by Adoula:
Msjen,
Smart women take the attitude that if this is the best men can do, so they'll just go to the dance alone, the movie without a date, and the rest of their lives without the true companion just hearing the FM radio.So what do U prefer: to be smart and live alone, or to be an evil and have the guy who knows how to cook, who sends flowers, and who is so romantic and loving?
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Originally posted by Adoula:
So what do U prefer: to be smart and live alone, or to be an evil and have the guy who knows how to cook, who sends flowers, and who is so romantic and loving?
Look, this is not about skin color, hair texture, or a certain nationality.
Americans must know that they have not been rightly civilized. No one can enslave another who has equal education (knowledge).
Civilization results from a collective effort to better a group or society through management of behavior and resrouces.
Although some species of animals exhibit behavior that can be characterized as some sort of civilized behavior, some men has lowered civilization to such a rude level.
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"So what do U prefer: to be smart and live alone, or to be an evil and have the guy who knows how to cook, who sends flowers, and who is so romantic and loving? "
does this mean i have to be 'evil' to get a loving relationship?
Thanks for letting me know what i have been doing wrong all these years!!
take this in the spirit it was writen
much love
kay
guys, life is sooooooooooooooo simple , don't complicate it more and more
kay , stick to what u r , it is much better, sometimes when minds interfer it ruins everything.
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Some of us were just having a fun challenge here, for discussion and entertainment purposes only. Nothing serious.
All in good spirit!
Monica
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Originally posted by BoBBoSS:
i guess i am always late, it is a nice thread adoula, i am a man, but i think that men can be more evil , because in our society it i hard to find a man forced to do something , and the man is always the final good manners keeper, and he must be stronger regarding his emotional temptations, opposite to women , whch sometimes emotions and feelings may affect them much,
but i guess evilness is much more a man's responsibility than a woman's one.
monica: to be evil and gain a helping man , what a concept, it is a risky plan , beside for myself and may be others thinks like me , i don't like evil thoughts, nor too smart plans, i don't feel relax whn i see complex plans .guys, life is sooooooooooooooo simple , don't complicate it more and more
kay , stick to what u r , it is much better, sometimes when minds interfer it ruins everything.
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In today?s society, evil does exist but there is no reason to glorify.
I believe that without evil you do not know the nature of good because you have no knowledge of what the other is.
Although I agree that some people are prone to evil, I think their minds do convince them that things are okay, because as long as they are having fun then nothing else matters. But that's a second side just like anything else.
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i dont think some people are prone to evil i think it has alot to do with upbringing and life situations.
the one thing we must never forget is
WE HAVE A CHOICE
we choose to act in the ways we do. we never loose the right to choose bettween good and bad!
gosh - got a bit heated there for a moment. but this is what i think.
as you say adoula there are two sides to everything i happen to think this is part of the fun and challenge of being alive. if there were not two sides to everything then just think how short this forum would be!
much love
kay X