I will most likely live alone, but I can rent a two bedroom apartment.
Walking distance to Metro mart, or 26th of July Street, would be great.
If you are a simsar, I will only consider your services if you take commission from the apartment owner.
Chrisderfer@hotmail.com
[This message has been edited by Chrisderfer (edited 12 May 2004).]
quote:Amy (Lynn Johnson) wife of Ayman Mohamed and mother of maria
Originally posted by Sonomod_me:
I will post some of her materials from this website, then post a snippet from a book, which will be very useful for African Americans looking into relocating to Cairo.
The mission of AMERA Egypt is to promote the legal protection of asylum seekers and refugees through increasing
access to administrative justice in international and local institutions; providing legal advice on
matters relating to asylum determination, re-settlement, family reunification, and other matters relating to
the enjoyment of the fundamental rights; and educating members of the legal profession in matters relating
to the law affecting refugees in Africa and the Middle East.
http://www.amera-uk.org/files/AnnualReport2004.pdf
quote:
Originally posted by Organized Crime:
Now this is the juicy snippet I found this weekend.
Somehow I feel the refugee situation has exasperated the
color/race issue in Cairo.
This is long and difficult to digest, but its best to start
chewing on it now. Its like petrified red meat.
From the book Cairo: City of Sand by Maria Golia
pg.127
called Caucasian type generally associated with foreigners
and upper-crust Egyptians. Some Cairenes may recall that
several centuries of their city's history belonged to the
original Caucasians, the ones from the Caucasus (Circassian
Mamlucks and Turks of Circassian extraction), whose features
include light skin and light-colored eyes. Whether
associated consciously or not wih the old ruling class, there
is a marked preference for so-called Causcasian attributes.
Many young brunettes lighten their hair; a larger number
regularly endure the ordeal of straightening it. Middle and
upper-class girls can purchase disposable coloured contact
lenses at any number of pharmacies.
portray, it is unlikely that an inferiority complex is the
cause for them. As a theory explaining social ills, the
khawagaa complex merely substitutes psychological
barriers for quantifiable, and actionable, constriants.
The term 'imperialist oppressor' (which barely had time to
fall into disuse before its unfortunate post 9/11 revival),
however vehementally employed, nearly always hides a grudging
esteem. No matter how hypocritical or manacing first world
nations maybe, htye have cities with proper schools and
parks, and governments who serve the people at least once in
a while. Likewise with regards to the strangers in their
midst, the wealthy Egyptians, no matter how pretentious, the
fact that they travel and that their children are healthy and
well-educated does not escape the average Cairene's notice.
Interest in the perennial other, whether foreign by birth or
lifestyle, is a mtter of self-appraisal and definition, a
weighing of pros and cons, a granting of concessions to
reality. The Cairene conceit, arrived at through comparison,
is a practical one. 'We're better people, but they're
better off.'
The official attitude is less frank. However avid for the
percieved benefits of capitalism, accommodating to foreign
interests on economic issues, or suspectible to foreign
models of so-called modern life, the line of demarcation
between 'us' and 'them' is conspicuously drawn in laws
relating to marriage. Women who eschew teir compatriots as
spouses were once obliged to relinquish their nationality.
While that is no longer the case, they still cannot pass
Egyptian citizenship onto their children. Although born and
raised in Egypt, children of foreign fathers will always be
treated as outsiders by a vindictive bureaucracy as
punishment for their mothers' lack of discriminiation.
By contrast, when an Egyptian man marries a foreign women,
the latter is typically granted an Egyptian passport (having
supplied the requisite ream of paperwork) within a year or
two of request, suggesting tht feelings for foreigners cut
both ways. Many Egyptians describe local feelings towards
foreigners as envy's admixiture of lvoe and hate, and the
contigent desire to emulate and absorb the other. We'll
absorb you gladly, is the message sent to the foreign lady,
because you've shown such fine judgement in choosing us.
The impulse to emulate foreigners is evident in popular
perceptions of beauty. Far from idealizing the attractions
of the dark-eyed and honey-hued, favour attaches to the so-
called Caucasian type generally associated with foreigners
and upper-crust Egyptians. Some Cairenes may recall that
several centuries of their city's history belonged to the
original Caucasians, the ones from the Caucasus (Circassian
Mamlucks and Turks of Circassian extraction), whose features
include light skin and light-colored eyes. Whether
associated consciously or not wih the old ruling class, there
is a marked preference for so-called Causcasian attributes.
Many young brunettes lighten their hair; a larger number
regularly endure the ordeal of straightening it. Middle and
upper-class girls can purchase disposable coloured contact
lenses at any number of pharmacies.
Light skin is unabashedly marketed; billboards for Fair
and Lovely, The World's Number One Fairness Cream dot the
city. Television commercials for the same product feature
high school girls about to audition for the play Kais and
Leila, a romance from classical Arab literature. The
class vedette wants to the lead role, but her schoolmates
warn her that Leila was 'beautiful' whereas she is 'dark'.
The girl hastens to buy bleaching cream and, several
timelapsed shades paler, gets teh aprt and appreciative looks
from her make classmates.
quote:
Originally posted by Organized Crime:
Now this is the juicy snippet I found this weekend.
Somehow I feel the refugee situation has exasperated the
color/race issue in Cairo.
This is long and difficult to digest, but its best to start
chewing on it now. Its like petrified red meat.
From the book Cairo: City of Sand by Maria Golia
pg.127
Underlying these interactions, however fleet or superficial,
are sinous currents or feeling, but how mcuh does the average
Cairnene really care about foreigners? Probably
nowhere near as mcuh as foreigners devel on Egyptians'
preceptions of them. It is both foreign residents and upper
-class Egyptians who postulate the khawagaa complex (
foreigner complex) they attribute to Egypt at large. The [i
]khawagaa[/i] complex is theoretically provoked by peoples'
insecurities regarding the west and its intentions, and a
lack of confidence because of substandard education, a slow
economy and rhetorical democracy. The khawagaa
complex is a kind of post-colonial trauma, a side effect of
globalism, that state of everwhelmed resentment at not being
able to 'keep up'. While there is truth in these
observations with regards to the conditions of life they
portray, it is unlikely that an inferiority complex is the
cause for them. As a theory explaining social ills, the
khawagaa complex merely substitutes psychological
barriers for quantifiable, and actionable, constriants.
The term 'imperialist oppressor' (which barely had time to
fall into disuse before its unfortunate post 9/11 revival),
however vehementally employed, nearly always hides a grudging
esteem. No matter how hypocritical or manacing first world
nations maybe, htye have cities with proper schools and
parks, and governments who serve the people at least once in
a while. Likewise with regards to the strangers in their
midst, the wealthy Egyptians, no matter how pretentious, the
fact that they travel and that their children are healthy and
well-educated does not escape the average Cairene's notice.
Interest in the perennial other, whether foreign by birth or
lifestyle, is a mtter of self-appraisal and definition, a
weighing of pros and cons, a granting of concessions to
reality. The Cairene conceit, arrived at through comparison,
is a practical one. 'We're better people, but they're
better off.'
The official attitude is less frank. However avid for the
percieved benefits of capitalism, accommodating to foreign
interests on economic issues, or suspectible to foreign
models of so-called modern life, the line of demarcation
between 'us' and 'them' is conspicuously drawn in laws
relating to marriage. Women who eschew teir compatriots as
spouses were once obliged to relinquish their nationality.
While that is no longer the case, they still cannot pass
Egyptian citizenship onto their children. Although born and
raised in Egypt, children of foreign fathers will always be
treated as outsiders by a vindictive bureaucracy as
punishment for their mothers' lack of discriminiation.
By contrast, when an Egyptian man marries a foreign women,
the latter is typically granted an Egyptian passport (having
supplied the requisite ream of paperwork) within a year or
two of request, suggesting tht feelings for foreigners cut
both ways. Many Egyptians describe local feelings towards
foreigners as envy's admixiture of lvoe and hate, and the
contigent desire to emulate and absorb the other. We'll
absorb you gladly, is the message sent to the foreign lady,
because you've shown such fine judgement in choosing us.
The impulse to emulate foreigners is evident in popular
perceptions of beauty. Far from idealizing the attractions
of the dark-eyed and honey-hued, favour attaches to the so-
called Caucasian type generally associated with foreigners
and upper-crust Egyptians. Some Cairenes may recall that
several centuries of their city's history belonged to the
original Caucasians, the ones from the Caucasus (Circassian
Mamlucks and Turks of Circassian extraction), whose features
include light skin and light-colored eyes. Whether
associated consciously or not wih the old ruling class, there
is a marked preference for so-called Causcasian attributes.
Many young brunettes lighten their hair; a larger number
regularly endure the ordeal of straightening it. Middle and
upper-class girls can purchase disposable coloured contact
lenses at any number of pharmacies.
Light skin is unabashedly marketed; billboards for Fair
and Lovely, The World's Number One Fairness Cream dot the
city. Television commercials for the same product feature
high school girls about to audition for the play Kais and
Leila, a romance from classical Arab literature. The
class vedette wants to the lead role, but her schoolmates
warn her that Leila was 'beautiful' whereas she is 'dark'.
The girl hastens to buy bleaching cream and, several
timelapsed shades paler, gets teh aprt and appreciative looks
from her make classmates.
quote:More garbage, crap crap and more fucking crap
Originally posted by Organized Crime:
Now this is the juicy snippet I found this weekend.
Somehow I feel the refugee situation has exasperated the
color/race issue in Cairo.
This is long and difficult to digest, but its best to start
chewing on it now. Its like petrified red meat.
From the book Cairo: City of Sand by Maria Golia
pg.127
Underlying these interactions, however fleet or superficial,
are sinous currents or feeling, but how mcuh does the average
Cairnene really care about foreigners? Probably
nowhere near as mcuh as foreigners devel on Egyptians'
preceptions of them. It is both foreign residents and upper
-class Egyptians who postulate the khawagaa complex (
foreigner complex) they attribute to Egypt at large. The [i
]khawagaa[/i] complex is theoretically provoked by peoples'
insecurities regarding the west and its intentions, and a
lack of confidence because of substandard education, a slow
economy and rhetorical democracy. The khawagaa
complex is a kind of post-colonial trauma, a side effect of
globalism, that state of everwhelmed resentment at not being
able to 'keep up'. While there is truth in these
observations with regards to the conditions of life they
portray, it is unlikely that an inferiority complex is the
cause for them. As a theory explaining social ills, the
khawagaa complex merely substitutes psychological
barriers for quantifiable, and actionable, constriants.
The term 'imperialist oppressor' (which barely had time to
fall into disuse before its unfortunate post 9/11 revival),
however vehementally employed, nearly always hides a grudging
esteem. No matter how hypocritical or manacing first world
nations maybe, htye have cities with proper schools and
parks, and governments who serve the people at least once in
a while. Likewise with regards to the strangers in their
midst, the wealthy Egyptians, no matter how pretentious, the
fact that they travel and that their children are healthy and
well-educated does not escape the average Cairene's notice.
Interest in the perennial other, whether foreign by birth or
lifestyle, is a mtter of self-appraisal and definition, a
weighing of pros and cons, a granting of concessions to
reality. The Cairene conceit, arrived at through comparison,
is a practical one. 'We're better people, but they're
better off.'
The official attitude is less frank. However avid for the
percieved benefits of capitalism, accommodating to foreign
interests on economic issues, or suspectible to foreign
models of so-called modern life, the line of demarcation
between 'us' and 'them' is conspicuously drawn in laws
relating to marriage. Women who eschew teir compatriots as
spouses were once obliged to relinquish their nationality.
While that is no longer the case, they still cannot pass
Egyptian citizenship onto their children. Although born and
raised in Egypt, children of foreign fathers will always be
treated as outsiders by a vindictive bureaucracy as
punishment for their mothers' lack of discriminiation.
By contrast, when an Egyptian man marries a foreign women,
the latter is typically granted an Egyptian passport (having
supplied the requisite ream of paperwork) within a year or
two of request, suggesting tht feelings for foreigners cut
both ways. Many Egyptians describe local feelings towards
foreigners as envy's admixiture of lvoe and hate, and the
contigent desire to emulate and absorb the other. We'll
absorb you gladly, is the message sent to the foreign lady,
because you've shown such fine judgement in choosing us.
The impulse to emulate foreigners is evident in popular
perceptions of beauty. Far from idealizing the attractions
of the dark-eyed and honey-hued, favour attaches to the so-
called Caucasian type generally associated with foreigners
and upper-crust Egyptians. Some Cairenes may recall that
several centuries of their city's history belonged to the
original Caucasians, the ones from the Caucasus (Circassian
Mamlucks and Turks of Circassian extraction), whose features
include light skin and light-colored eyes. Whether
associated consciously or not wih the old ruling class, there
is a marked preference for so-called Causcasian attributes.
Many young brunettes lighten their hair; a larger number
regularly endure the ordeal of straightening it. Middle and
upper-class girls can purchase disposable coloured contact
lenses at any number of pharmacies.
Light skin is unabashedly marketed; billboards for Fair
and Lovely, The World's Number One Fairness Cream dot the
city. Television commercials for the same product feature
high school girls about to audition for the play Kais and
Leila, a romance from classical Arab literature. The
class vedette wants to the lead role, but her schoolmates
warn her that Leila was 'beautiful' whereas she is 'dark'.
The girl hastens to buy bleaching cream and, several
timelapsed shades paler, gets teh aprt and appreciative looks
from her make classmates.
quote:
Originally posted by Chrisderfer:
Hello all,
I need an apartment to rent for one or two years in Zamalek, starting in August.I will most likely live alone, but I can rent a two bedroom apartment.
Walking distance to Metro mart, or 26th of July Street, would be great.
If you are a simsar, I will only consider your services if you take commission from the apartment owner.
Chrisderfer@hotmail.com
[This message has been edited by Chrisderfer (edited 12 May 2004).]
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giovanna
quote:
Originally posted by hany rafik:
hi,
my name is hany and we are real estate brokers (simsar). we have great apartements in all around cairo including zamalek we will take our commission from the apartement owner only. our prices ranges from 500-1000$ per month and this is according to the the area where the apartement is. concerning the area that you described this will start at 750$ per month. if you have any problems concerning moving from the airport. we can pick u up from the airport to the flat for only 40$.
for more details you can email me at hany_rafik@hotmail.com
quote:
Originally posted by Mokoo:
40 dollars ride from the airport to the apartment oh boy.........you make me laugh...
40 dollars=280 pounds ride from the airport... while taxis charge 50 pounds top...good start to do business with the guy....
quote:
Originally posted by hany rafik:
hey guys you sure got me very very wrong, i didn't mean 40$ dollars for ataxi drive!!!!! i meant picking him from the airport to the all available flats he may see to rent and any other place he may want to go which means being with him all the day and not with a taxi. it's a 2004 model air conditioned car with a cheffeur. you just ask any company for renting cars about the prices of a 2004 model car. and please don't insult before understanding.
(B S) Mr.
cost of B class Appartment here in Zamalek is for 1500 EGP max = 190euro , a luxorious one= 350euro max
A taxi ride from the airport to zamalek= 20- 25EGP and I offer a free BMW ride for Italians, I m serious.(Egyptians love u guys).
quote:
Originally posted by amgadamir:
"Help me in ur country, help u when u r alone in mine"
what's up with u guyscost of B class Appartment here in Zamalek is for 1500 EGP max = 190euro , a luxorious one= 350euro max
A taxi ride from the airport to zamalek= 20- 25EGP and I offer a free BMW ride for Italians, I m serious.(Egyptians love u guys).