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Originally posted by the lioness,:

“The Black Land” of Egypt referred to the strip of rich, fertile land along the Nile River. On both sides of the river were the Deshret (Red Lands) the harsh deserts where no one lived and few traveled.

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The Egyptians did not call themselves black people

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KM is compound to many words indicating black color. However KMt is not compound to a words for "people". One might look at as meaning the Black nation and Deshret as the red territory of desert in Egypt

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Clearly tL doesn't know what she's talking about.

Otherwise she'll show where KM is and definitively
demonstrate a breakdown of the scripted word
form of KM in this papyrus. She will do this
without subbing what someone else wrote. She
must support her underlined statement via her
own original thought process or else retract
her statement as a matter of fact vs her
personal opinion. She knows better from the
many many times this was talked about here.




 

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Posted by Oshun (Member # 19740) on :
 
So...can those of us who have no idea what the writing says get a translation?
 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
That will defeat the purpose of this thread.

Please be patient, thx.
 

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Posted by BlessedbyHorus (Member # 22000) on :
 
I wanna see where this thread goes. This should be good.
 

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Posted by Elmaestro (Member # 22566) on :
 
^It won't go anywhere, tL is ducking. lol
Cool this comes up now, I learned most of what remember about mdu ntr from here back in the days when I used to lurk.
One of the things that stuck with me as a younging was how the crocodile skin in conjunction with the symbol for "town" described the nation and the croc skin with something else described the people similar to what the Exploerer said in the other thread.
croc skin (Km) means black, and the suffix describes what ever noun, Apparently equating the "black-soil" definition to Km.t insinuates redundancy when they're actually referring to their Nation. eg. you get something like "Land of people of the black land."

There are much more qualified people on here that broke this down or can break it down soundly... just my 2 cents to bump this.
 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
Lol. Give 'er some time.
Weeze all gotta life offline.
Hahaha, Sekhmet is queen of deshret chaos.
The bloodthirsty Ra Eye who at once makes
genocide and protects. Ergo the confusion.
 

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Posted by Fourty2Tribes (Member # 21799) on :
 
I thought this settled it
http://www.asarimhotep.com/documentdownloads/could_the_kongo_be_modern_kmt.pdf
 

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Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
 
Lionese won't be back anytime soon. It's too busy locking popular threads in AE which have attracted the attention of the newly registered.
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
It doesn't matter what you think insults another group or does not insult another group.
I go by what a particular group has decided to call themselves formally.
So if you start calling a a group of people "Apples" or "Sickle Cells" or "Cancers", the words by themselves may not be offensive but if the group hasn't chosen to call themselves by such words calling them any such name will not be tolerated.
In the real world as opposed to the internet, when people are dealing with each other face to face this basic respect is so obvious it doesn't even have to be stated.
This thread also is somewhat pointless. It is addressed to someone named tL.
I don't go by tL I go by the lioness. The same person who called me that, when they were moderator threatened to delete my post on the basis I mistakenly had one of the vowels in their name wrong.
 

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Posted by Narmerthoth (Member # 20259) on :
 

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Originally posted by Autshumato:

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Originally posted by Narmerthoth:
Lionese won't be back anytime soon. It's too busy locking popular threads in AE which have attracted the attention of the newly registered.

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Yes Narmerthoth, I find this 'locking' of threads very strange. Because firstly​, calling someone albino refers to a clinically​ condition and is not an insult. Secondly, unlike the term negro, albino was never used historically to insult people. Lastly, they are not so much 'locking' threads because of terms like negro etc, but because people now prefer to call modern Europeans by their clinical name - and that frustrates most of the "whites" on this Forum.


BTW; Albino means "white", from Latin 'albus'. So I see no reason why it should be banned or locked.

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We will answer once and for all the real meaning behind the name Km.t (Kemet, Egypt) and the Ankh symbol. Many theories have been proposed, but very few actually engage the primary texts and/or African languages. We aim to settle the debates surrounding this issue by looking into the primary script known as sS-md.w-nTr (hieroglyphs) and utilizing the Bantu languages to confirm what we see in the texts.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUgvpMwOtVo
 

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Posted by capra (Member # 22737) on :
 
So... I'd be interested in seeing what Tukuler has on the subject. From what little I know kmt (ME *Kuumat) means "the Black" and further etymology is hypothetical.
 

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Posted by DD'eDeN (Member # 21966) on :
 
Kuumat/Kemet/KMT
Xyuam(b)uat - sieve.mom.body = sky-filtered mother-hut

Xya - sky/shine/skin/external
Xyua - sieve/through/filtered
Ndula - inside/internal (Mbuti)
Dua - 2, divide in two (Malay)

IMO by the Agricultural era, kmt may have had altered meanings, including skintone or soilshade.
 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
Hmm. Kuumat eh? Wonder upon Wonder. Where'd you learn them corrected vowels ?
 

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Posted by the questioner (Member # 22195) on :
 

^^^ this is the hieroglyph for kemet
 

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Posted by the questioner (Member # 22195) on :
 

^^^ this is the hieroglyph for land

i noticed that this symbol is not in the Kemet hieroglyph


^^^ this is the hieroglyph for town, village, or nation

so Kemet means black town, black nation, and black village
 

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Posted by the questioner (Member # 22195) on :
 

^^^ pharaoh of Egypt


^^^ these two symbols mean land
this was the hieroglyph for Egypt the land
 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
I like to default translate niwt as community.

For me distinction between khast and niwt is that
of unimproved land vs improved land.

Kemet itself just means black.
It takes a determinative like niwt to tell us what's black.

Kemet also means the complete ultimate sum concept.


You might like the STANDARD DICTIONARY ENTRIES FOR
KM_T thread from 2014.
 

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Posted by the questioner (Member # 22195) on :
 
we cannot say that kemet means black soil

in ancient times Egypt was known to have black people and black soil so kemet could be referencing any of these things

if the hieroglyph kemet is displayed with a man as the determinate than the word simply means "black man"
 

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Posted by capra (Member # 22737) on :
 
^^^ Is km.t ever written with just the man determinative? (I know it was sometimes written with man+woman+plural determinative.)
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 

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Originally posted by capra:
^^^ Is km.t ever written with just the man determinative? (I know it was sometimes written with man+woman+plural determinative.)

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quote:

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Originally posted by Fourty2Tribes:
I thought this settled it
http://www.asarimhotep.com/documentdownloads/could_the_kongo_be_modern_kmt.pdf

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quote:

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
Recently moderator tL claims

quote:

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Originally posted by the lioness,:

“The Black Land” of Egypt referred to the strip of rich, fertile land along the Nile River. On both sides of the river were the Deshret (Red Lands) the harsh deserts where no one lived and few traveled.

...


The Egyptians did not call themselves black people

...

KM is compound to many words indicating black color. However KMt is not compound to a words for "people". One might look at as meaning the Black nation and Deshret as the red territory of desert in Egypt

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Clearly tL doesn't know what she's talking about.

Otherwise she'll show where KM is and definitively
demonstrate a breakdown of the scripted word
form of KM in this papyrus. She will do this
without subbing what someone else wrote. She
must support her underlined statement via her
own original thought process or else retract
her statement as a matter of fact vs her
personal opinion. She knows better from the
many many times this was talked about here.

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Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus:

Can we get this thread back on topic people? Its an interesting topic and again I want to see where it goes.


Lioness Tukuler has offered you a civil challenge and to be honest I want to see you two debate.

The reason why I find this topic interesting is because "Authorities" in Egyptology say "Kemet" only means black land. Yet, people like ES who know have to read the word have all said it means black people. I have NOT only seen this on ES but other places and this people used COMPELLING arguments.

So again I wanna see how this plays out.

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
The Rosetta Stone mentions KM as one of 4 names of Egypt. But the Rosetta Stone also showed that "Mistra-im" is a mistranslation and was never a name of Egypt. But that's not all.

Since I've seen and talked with all of you, I've retranslated the underlying text of the Old and New Testaments.


https://www.slideshare.net/LegesseAllyn/amarigna-tigrigna-qal-genesis-volume-i-97564062


https://www.slideshare.net/LegesseAllyn/amarigna-tgrigna-qal-genesis-volume-ii

To accomplish it, I utilized the word matching process I developed for my 2014 Rosetta Stone retranslation, which showed (surprisingly) that the ancient Greeks translated the Greek message into the hieroglyphic language 99.9% accurately.


https://www.slideshare.net/LegesseAllyn/amarigna-tigrigna-qal-rosetta-stone

Also, retranslating from modern "block" Hebrew would not give an accurate retranslation. So I contacted Jeff Benner of the Ancient Hebrew Resource Center (www.ancient-hebrew.org) who gave me written permission to utilize his Torah in the written character style of the Dead Sea scrolls, his "Ancient Hebrew Torah."


http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/bookstore/book_aht.html

So with the process and the Torah in characters of the Dead Sea scrolls, I was able to accomplish the retranslation. Not only of the Torah books and Old Testament in general, but also of the New Testament (Peshitta) in Aramaic (see https://theholyaramaicscriptures.weebly.com).

It turns out that both the Old and New Testaments are actually mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports... not religion. But the mistranslation into religion was intentional, the evidence showing it was likely done by the ancient Romans... but we won't get into that here.

Also, and more importantly, the retranslation shows that so-called ancient Hebrew, Proto-Sinaitic, and ancient written Aramaic are all simply ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs.

Additionally, all the words, the context and the content of both the underlying text of the Old Testament and New Testament is the same -- farm reports. But since the Yafo/Dead Sea region was part of ancient Egypt, it only makes sense they wrote in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, although a limited and simplified form.



For those who do not know, archaeologists have excavated an Egyptian fortress in the Yafo, Tel Aviv harbor and have proof the Yafo/Dead Sea region of Egypt was important for its grain and granaries. This is documented in a paper by UCLA professor Aaron A. Burke and Krystal Lords (link).


The gate into the Yafo Egyptian fortress (Courtesy Aaron Burke)



A digital reconstruction for the Yafo Egyptian fortress (Courtesy Aaron Burke)

That's not all. This KM word repeatedly came up in the retranslations of both the Old and New Testaments. And while I published the word as meaning the qin/"honest", I still am not entirely confident of what the name means.

What I do know is the following...

• The farm reports are of the Middle East Yafo/Dead Sea region of ancient Egypt where it seems that most of ancient Egypt's grain was grown, recorded in the Rosetta Stone as the Egyptian Tisha ("countryside")
• The farm reports discuss merchants coming from what appears to be the Nile Valley and Nile Delta regions of ancient Egypt
• Many times the merchants were referred to as this KM word I translated into qin/"honest"

I don't like doing names because names seem to be so subjective. Suspecting the QN was KM name, I was nervous about being wrong, yet I published it anyways.


 

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Posted by Elmaestro (Member # 22566) on :
 
Yo this is some Interesting shit... how long have you been sitting on this?
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
Elmaestro, thanks. I tried in 2012 to do a retranslation, before I did the Rosetta Stone re-translation in 2014. But nothing made sense, since I was trying to retranslate from modern block Hebrew letters -- and not the hieroglyphs of the Dead Sea region of ancient Egypt represented in the Dead Sea scrolls.

As Jeff Benner explains...

"Throughout the codex Leningrad the vowel sound 'o' is represented by a dot placed over a letter. For instance the Hebrew word for 'no', as it appears in the codex, is לֹא (lo). The dot above the text, called a hholam, represents the vowel sound 'o'. These dots and dashes (called nikkudot, nikkud in the singular) were created by the Masorites during the time the codex Leningrad was written."
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/aht/0_about.html

But not only that...

"From the vast amount of manuscripts unearthed in the Dead Sea Caves it has been discovered that the letters waw and yud (and to a lesser extent the letters hey and aleph) were widely used as vowels. But when and why they were removed from the text and replaced with the nikkudot appears to be a mystery."

The issue turned out to be, Elmaestro, some of the ו that can represent a vowel pronunciation sound can also represent an H sound. And because H is also related to Q/K/G/J/etc., the ו can represent consonants, too.

As Jeff Benner goes on to say...

"From the vast amount of manuscripts unearthed in the Dead Sea Caves it has been discovered that the letters waw and yud (and to a lesser extent the letters hey and aleph) were widely used as vowels."

For example, on th page above the word kea/"and," which uses the ו Dead Sea style hieroglyph as a K, often followed by a vowel. But this is the same in the Rosetta Stone and, in fact, the kea hieroglyph I use in the Bible retranslations is the Rosetta Stone hieroglyph for kea/"and."

Even the name Yafo, which in Numbers uses the word qofo for "granary" (grain storage vault), the Q is represented by the ו Dead Sea style hieroglyph. That means the name Yafo is actually Qofo. You can see this A/H/Y/Q/K/J relationship in the Arab pronunciation of Yafo, pronounced Jaffa.

This is why Jeff Benner's "Ancient Hebrew Bible" was so important to this successful retranslation. Because Jeff changed all the dots (hholam and hhireq nikkud) back to letters in order to attempt to restore the text to its pre-Masoretic state, as in the Dead Sea scrolls.

Because of that, I can now see all the letters to match the words.

Jeff gave me permission to reprint his "Ancient Hebrew Bible" the end of this past November (2017) and it took me until March of this year to do the retranslation of the underlying text of what's become Genesis chapters 1 and 2. The underlying text of chapters 3 and 4 took until May.

It takes so long per "chapter" because the words don't match the traditional translations. Since I couldn't rely on the traditional translations, I had to rely almost entirely on the Morfix Hebrew online translator based in Israel (http://www.morfix.co.il/en/), copying modern block Hebrew words into the translator from the Mechon-Mamre Hebrew-English Bible (http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0101.htm/). Also, I used the Scripture4all mechanical translation to understand division of words and the general idea of the words (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/gen1.pdf).

Then finally, Professor Aaron Burke's details of the Egyptian Yafo fortress and Dead Sea granary excavations helped me know I wasn't going crazy (who would think there is farming in a place with a lake called the "Dead Sea"?). And I only learned about Yafo/Jaffa itself after the Genesis 1 through 2 book was published. I knew nothing about Yafo, the fortress or the ancient granaries in the Dead Sea region.

By contrast, the entire Rosetta Stone in 2014 only took one to two months, since the ancient Greeks accurately translated the Greek message into the hieroglyphic. I could quickly make the word matches without any puzzles to try to figure out.

Because I have done so much of the underlying text of the "Old Testament," when I got to the "New Testament" in Aramaic, it was quick (a sentence every 4 hours) since the words are all the same as in the "Old Testament," as is the context and content (farming/granaries/merchants/grain sales). But I did have to hire an Aramaic/Syriac speaker from Syria (who lives in Germany) to orient me with written and spoken Aramaic. Surprisingly, spoken Aramaic is very similar to Amarigna/Tigrigna. And you can learn written Aramaic characters literally in 20 minutes if you know the Dead Sea scrolls-style Egyptian hieroglyphs (see Matthew 1:18 above).
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:


It turns out that both the Old and New Testaments are actually mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports... not religion. But the mistranslation into religion was intentional, the evidence showing it was likely done by the ancient Romans... but we won't get into that here.

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So how to get all these stories from the bible out of a grain report?
Do you have an example of a paragraph of grain report text?
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
Hello, Lioness. Nice to see you again.

Well, when I began retranslating the underlying text of Genesis, I expected the same word and meaning for each word, as with my retranslation of the Rosetta Stone. I thought I would only be clarifying and showing the Amarigna/Tigrigna word.

That turned out not to be the case.

I saw the words, "production chief," "boats in the harbor" and I saw the word "farm" but didn't know why...



Then I saw riq, one of two Tigrigna words "granary"...



Clearly, after growing up a Christian, reading the Bible since the age of 14, this made no sense. But I also did not know anything about the Yafo fortress or the Dead Sea region granaries (grain storage vaults). Plus, when I did the retranslation of the hieroglyphic portion of the Rosetta Stone, the words and meanings matched... very surprisingly, as the Rosetta Stone was done by the Greeks who somehow managed to translate the Greek message into the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic language (Amarigna and Tigrigna words) 99.9% accurately!

Then as I continued the Genesis 1 retranslation, I saw the words "merchant," loads," "buy" and "sell." So that made a connection to the boats in the harbor of Genesis 1:2.

Then I saw the words "invitation," "invite" and "guest" connected to the merchants/customers and what they were buying, "grain," "seed," "plants," "hay," "staffs," "fabric" and more.

I didn't quite know where in the world all this was taking place, though. Then I saw the word "east" for the farm and "southwest" for the Nile Valley and Nile Delta merchants/customers.

At this point I had to search to see if there were ancient granaries in the Dead Sea region and came across an article by Ian Kujit entitled, "World's Oldest Known Granaries Predate Agriculture." Ian Kujit was part of a research team that discovered a 10,000 year-old granary at the southeastern edge of the Dead Sea.
Article: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623150619.htm
Google maps: Dhra granary location

So that let me know the location of the farming was definitely in the Dead Sea region. But why I didn't know yet. And at this point I thought the "opening of the water" was the Gulf of Aqaba (which turned out not to be the case), where the valley the Dead Sea is located drains into the Red Sea.

I was doing some verses at random from the rest of the Old Testament and came across the Tigrigna word in Numbers 21;14 for "granary," qofo (Amarigna version is keffo)...




Still, I knew this was the Dead Sea region yet had nothing to tie the harbor definitively.

Then I saw the word "fortress" in Genesis 4. That stunned me. I had no idea where it was either.

So I was talking to a friend in Israel and we were asking about each other's weather. When I checked her weather, Tel Aviv, on Google, it returned, "Yafo, Tel Aviv." Knowing the Y hieroglyph can be Q, I connected it to the word I had found in Numbers for granary, qofo. I began yelling with excitement and told her.

I then Googled "Yafo" and the word "granary" together in a search. That's when amazingly I saw the Arabic pronunciation for Yafo, Jaffa (like the Amarigna keffo). And what was there in Yafo/Jaffa? An Egyptian fortress!!!!

I couldn't believe it. That's when I also found UCLA professor Aaron Burke's paper about the Yafo fortress excavation. Unbelievable. Retranslating about farming, granaries, grain sales, merchants and boat, I really almost needed to seek counseling. But reading Aaron Burke's paper I saw the granary missing link...

"After The Capture of Joppa, the next references to Jaffa, found in the Amarna letters (mid-fourteenth century B.C.E.), indicate that the strategic value of Jaffa (identified as Yapu) included its granaries. These pharaonic granaries..."
https://www.academia.edu/233776/Egyptians_in_Jaffa_A_Portrait_of_Egyptian_Presence_in_Jaffa_during_the_Late_Bronze_Age

I began communicating with Ian Kujit and Aaron Burke (through his wife).

Also by this time I had finished a rough of the underlying text of Genesis 1 and 2, publishing it as volume I. Then I began on Genesis 3 and 4 for volume II.

Once I published both volumes, I began communicating with the Egypt Ministry of Antiquities and the Israel Ministry of Antiquities, providing them both digital copies through LinkedIn as well as sending them print copies.

I had seen the actual descriptive name for the region was Tisha, which roughly translates as "countryside." And when looking for hieroglyphs in the Rosetta Stone for words both documents contained, I noticed the ancient Greeks in 196 BC (the dating of the Rosetta Stone) the word I had retranslated in 2014, "Tisha."

So as of 196 BC, the Yafo/Dead Sea region was still part of ancient Egypt...



To show that the words of the "New Testament" are the same, with 110 instances of the word in the underlying text of the "New Testament," here is Tisha in Mathew 1:18...



The fortress in the Yafo harbor was not only a defensive type of fortress, irdi. But since the merchants/customers arrived at the harbor in boats from the Nile Valley/Nile Delta, the fortress was a convenient meeting place in the underlying text of both the "Old Testament" and "New Testament."

The "source" of the merchant is the chaka/"wilderness" of the Nile Valley/Nile Delta.

But also notice who the customer is... an Egyptian Queen/Empress hatseyti (Tigrigna) atseti (Amarigna). You should recognize this as the ancient Egyptian title of a queen, the Egyptologist Aset and the Greek Isis...



 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 
God is not going to like this, just sayin
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:


It turns out that both the Old and New Testaments are actually mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports... not religion. But the mistranslation into religion was intentional, the evidence showing it was likely done by the ancient Romans... but we won't get into that here.

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The New Testament is 1st century but the Hebrew old testament was started over a thousand years before far prior to the Romans (unless that time period is false and the OT was really written in the first century)

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Scientists have discovered the earliest known Hebrew writing — an inscription dating from the 10th century B.C., during the period of King David's reign.

The breakthrough could mean that portions of the Bible were written centuries earlier than previously thought. (The Bible's Old Testament is thought to have been first written down in an ancient form of Hebrew.)

Until now, many scholars have held that the Hebrew Bible originated in the 6th century B.C., because Hebrew writing was thought to stretch back no further. But the newly deciphered Hebrew text is about four centuries older, scientists announced this month.

"It indicates that the Kingdom of Israel already existed in the 10th century BCE and that at least some of the biblical texts were written hundreds of years before the dates presented in current research," said Gershon Galil, a professor of Biblical Studies at the University of Haifa in Israel, who deciphered the ancient text.

BCE stands for "before common era," and is equivalent to B.C., or before Christ.

The writing was discovered more than a year ago on a pottery shard dug up during excavations at Khirbet Qeiyafa, near Israel's Elah valley. The excavations were carried out by archaeologist Yosef Garfinkel of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. At first, scientists could not tell if the writing was Hebrew or some other local language.

Finally, Galil was able to decipher the text. He identified words particular to the Hebrew language and content specific to Hebrew culture to prove that the writing was, in fact, Hebrew.

"It uses verbs that were characteristic of Hebrew, such as asah ('did') and avad ('worked'), which were rarely used in other regional languages," Galil said. "Particular words that appear in the text, such as almanah ('widow') are specific to Hebrew and are written differently in other local languages."

The ancient text is written in ink on a trapezoid-shaped piece of pottery about 6 inches by 6.5 inches (15 cm by 16.5 cm). It appears to be a social statement about how people should treat slaves, widows and orphans. In English, it reads (by numbered line):

1' you shall not do [it], but worship the [Lord].
2' Judge the sla[ve] and the wid[ow] / Judge the orph[an]
3' [and] the stranger. [Pl]ead for the infant / plead for the po[or and]
4' the widow. Rehabilitate [the poor] at the hands of the king.
5' Protect the po[or and] the slave / [supp]ort the stranger.

The content, which has some missing letters, is similar to some Biblical scriptures, such as Isaiah 1:17, Psalms 72:3, and Exodus 23:3, but does not appear to be copied from any Biblical text.

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• metse/"come" became encoded as lemetse/"smear, anoint" for the fictional Messiah/"the anointed one" who would "come"
• adim/"guest" was encoded as the fictional "Adam"/"human" guest of the garden
• ngus/"king" was encoded as mgus (Moses), a prince who would become king
• riq/"granary, grain storage vault" became encoded as the "vault of heaven"
• merkabat/"boats" in the Yafo harbor of merchants coming to pick up their loads was encoded as the "spirit hovering over the deep"

• A (ܥ) B (ܒ݂ܵ) D(ܕܵ)

• B/F/W and foreign V/P
• TS/T/D

• ܥ [A]
• ܠ [L]

• It is not A B D
• It is L B D/L F T

• lfat (ልፋት) hard work (n.) (Amarigna)

• D W R = do-e-ro
• D W L = δοῦλος (doulos)

• D W L = δουλεὐω

• dawla (ዳውላ) donkey pack (n.) (Amarigna)
  http://amharicdictionary.com/Home/Index/donkey

• sra (ሥራ) work, job, business (n.) (Amarigna)
  http://amharicdictionary.com/Home/Index/%E1%88%A5%E1%88%AB
• sera (ሠራ) work, make, do (v.) (Amarigna)
  http://amharicdictionary.com/Home/Index/%E1%88%A0%E1%88%AB

• bariya (ባሪያ) slave (n.) (Amarigna)
  http://amharicdictionary.com/Home/Index/slave
• bariya (ባርያ) slave (n.) (Tigrigna)
  http://memhr.org/dic/index.php?a=srch&d=3&id_srch=42f335304111e8c1fa4791494c70acb1&il=en&p=1

• frae (ፍሬ) product, result (n.) (Amarigna)
  http://amharicdictionary.com/Home/Index/%E1%8D%8D%E1%88%AC
• fre E'yo (ፍረ ዕዮ) output (n.) (Tigrigna)
  http://memhr.org/dic/index.php?a=srch&d=3&id_srch=9ff6bfd55bfccf03b34a706f52175f2a&il=en&p=1

• Ferew (ፍሬው) "his fruit"

• Fere Senay (ፍሬ ሠናይ) "good fruit"

• B R Y = bariya/"slave"
• B Y R = puer

• bE'ray (ብዕራይ) ox, bull (n.) (Amarigna)

• baE'lu ባዕሉ) oneself (Tigrigna)
• baEla (ባዕላ) herself (Tigrigna)

• bal (ባል) owner (n.) (Amarigna)

• bA'l E'da (ብዓል ዕዳ) (debtor)
• bA'l genzeb (ብዓል ገንዘብ) (proprietor)
• bA'l zna (ብዓል ዝና) (renowned, hero)
• bA'l grma (ብዓል ግርማ) (imposing)
• bA'l dlay (ብዓል ድላይ) (willing)
• bA'l T’rit (ብዓል ጥሪት) (owner)
• bA'l dKH'ʷan (ብዓል ድዃን) (shopkeeper)
• bA'l t’beb (ብዓል ጥበብ) (artist)
• bA'l fereQ’a (ብዓል ፈረቓ) (partner)

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:
Lioness, it makes me crazy now to see such descriptions/explanations when I now know the truth. I don't even know where to start.

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what if you already went crazy but don't realize it yet? I'm not saying you did but it's possible.
What kind of linguistics training do you have?
Maybe this should be a separate thread
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
Yeah, maybe I'm dreaming.

[...]

Just in case I was going crazy, Lioness, to try to make sense of how 3400 year-old farming reports were turned into religion 2000 years ago, I had to hire a number of experts, which included...

• An archaeologist with a Ph.D in Archaeology and Master of Arts degree in History
• A Harvard-trained Biblical Hebrew expert with a Master of Arts degree in Linguistics (specialization in Semitic Languages) and a Masters degree in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School
• A Serbian with a Master of Arts degree in Theology and undergraduate student at Faculty of Orthodox Theology in Classical Philology (Ancient Greek and Latin)
• An Aramaic/Syriac translator from Syria living in Germany
• Three Israeli translators/editors, one in Germany and the other two in Israel
• A professor with a PhD in Comparative Literature

[ 30. July 2018, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: Elmaestro ]
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
Well, this comes back to the KM name. There were maybe a few possible matches to KM, but I came to the conclusion that only QN was likely.

All these explanations are so people could understand my process at arriving at QN (qin/"honest").

To get to a -t plural ending, we need a noun....

qnE'na (ቅንዕና) simplicity, virtue, integrity, sincerity, frankness, honesty (n.) (Tigrigna

Here is a likely match from "An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary"...


The -awi suffix is Amarigna, meaning people of. For example, Gebts ("Egypt") in Amarigna becomes the people of Egypt, Gebtsawi.

As for how the owl can be an N, M/N pronunciations are obviously related. But the owl is not really for the M pronunciation, even it can be used for M...

• gungwa (ጉንጓ) owl (n.) (Tigrigna)

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Originally posted by the lioness,:

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:
Lioness, it makes me crazy now to see such descriptions/explanations when I now know the truth. I don't even know where to start.

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what if you already went crazy but don't realize it yet? I'm not saying you did but it's possible.
What kind of linguistics training do you have?
Maybe this should be a separate thread

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:
Yeah, maybe I'm dreaming.

[...]

Just in case I was going crazy, Lioness, to try to make sense of how 3400 year-old farming reports were turned into religion 2000 years ago, I had to hire a number of experts, which included...

• An archaeologist with a Ph.D in Archaeology and Master of Arts degree in History
• A Harvard-trained Biblical Hebrew expert with a Master of Arts degree in Linguistics (specialization in Semitic Languages) and a Masters degree in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School
• A Serbian with a Master of Arts degree in Theology and undergraduate student at Faculty of Orthodox Theology in Classical Philology (Ancient Greek and Latin)
• An Aramaic/Syriac translator from Syria living in Germany
• Three Israeli translators/editors, one in Germany and the other two in Israel
• A professor with a PhD in Comparative Literature

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• Mitsraim
• Lord/Jehovah/YHWH/Yaweh
• God/Eloh/Elohim

If any of these words exist in any sentence/"verse" then it is a mistranslation. Therefore, I don't need to retranslate it.
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
Deuteronomy 16.9

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/deu16.pdf

ט שִׁבְעָה שָׁבֻעֹת, תִּסְפָּר-לָךְ: מֵהָחֵל חֶרְמֵשׁ, בַּקָּמָה, תָּחֵל לִסְפֹּר, שִׁבְעָה שָׁבֻעוֹת.
Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee; from the time the sickle is first put to the standing corn shalt thou begin to number seven weeks.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0516.htm


שיבעה שבועות תיספר לך מהחל חרמש בקמה תחל ליספור שיבעה שבועות
Jeff Benner's "Ancient Hebrew Torah"
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/bookstore/book_aht.html

(immediately you notice Jeff Benner features additional letters that are dots elsewhere)

STEPS
Step #1: Reverse the direction of the text


Step #2: Apply Yafo/Dead Sea-style ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic font (so-called ancient-Hebrew/Proto-Sinaitic font)


Step #3: Begin matching each word
Copy and paste each word into the Israel-based Morfix Online Hebrew Translator at http://www.morfix.co.il/en

This is, sorry to say, where your brain implodes -- where your psyche melts. You are in no way ready for what the words are going to translate to.

Fortunately for me, many of the words I've already matched and I have a library of those words. The first word literally makes me sick to the stomach, because I have the word from Genesis 4 from the description of the fortress rebuilding.

It makes me sick to the stomach partly because you learn the reality of the use of hieroglyphs -- which hieroglyphic characters were used for which pronunciations.

Luckily, I may even have a chance at correcting what I earlier may have considered a "match." Since I could learn something new, I cannot be afraid of having made a mistake before or even now.

Word #1
This is supposed to be "seven," which the word itself represents division (seven parts). But the Tigrigna number "seven" ends with a T...

• SH'obA'te (ሾብዓተ) seven (adj./n.) (Tigrigna)
• SH'ewAte (ሸውዓተ) seven (Tigrigna)

• satiation
• to be satiated
• to be full (of food)
• to sate
• etc.

• S/SH and therefore (sorry to say) K/CH
• B/F/W
• A (ayni/"eye") and (sorry to say) L/R (raey/"sight, vision")

How do I know this? Because I've matched enough words throughout the "Old Testament" and "New Testament" in both so-called Hebrew and Aramaic.

So since this is preliminary matching, here's the word I already matched from other sentences...


Notice two different Hebrew spellings. That is because, each is from a different sentence, by two different writers. There are Bible experts that recognize there are different writers for different chapter and sentences. You can also see I found a plural version of the same word somewhere between the Old and New Testaments.

So if this is the first word, I want to know what is being divided, which could be the second or third word. But you cannot expect this word with the current translation of the Bible, and this is where your brain gets messed up. You have to ignore that stomach-turning feeling that you might be wrong.

But to prove what appears only as a S/SH can be K, here's a word I matched where I agree with the word....


They say it is "put" and I say it is essentially "put" ("pack"). There are plenty more examples of the Letter being K/Q/G/etc., and plenty more as S/S/SH. And again, we can see different spellings by different writers for the same word.

And for what is supposedly only a vowel, we can see here another example where I basically agree with their word. But here the supposed exclusive vowel is L...



laE'li (ላዕሊ) up, high, above (adv.) (Tigrigna)
lE'li (ልዕሊ) on, above (adv.) (Tigrigna)

By no stretch of the imagination did I simply come to the conclusion of these seemingly odd uses of hieroglyphs. It only came through precise word matching and you end up asking, "How is it possible this is correct." But then you see your word matches their word and the pronunciation must then be accepted by yourself, then you move on to the next word.

It is also an understanding that by limiting the use of characters, then all those pronunciation sounds had to be somehow made applicable to less hieroglyphic characters. This is called the "invention" of the alphabet, but it is not "invention" any more than mispronunciation is a "new language."

Also, these are farm workers. They didn't have time to draw exquisite hieroglyphs. Words such as hije/"right now" indicate they were writing on-the-fly in the moment. So they had to be able to write down quickly the events taking place. The limiting of characters and spreading more pronunciation sounds over these fewer hieroglyphic characters made the on-the-fly documenting more possible.


In this famous scene, look how many writers (8) are necessary to document the actions of only 4 grain workers.


Here in a cattle auction model, from Meketre's tomb, there appear to be 4 writers documenting the action.

Word #2
This word (שָׁבֻעֹת) doesn't even come up in a search at Morfix...
http://www.morfix.co.il/en/%D7%A9%D7%81%D6%B8%D7%91%D6%BB%D7%A2%D6%B9%D7%AA

Notice Jeff Benner's conversion of the dots back to letters provides us with two vowels or two Q/K/G/etc. consonants.

But I can come back to this word when I get a better feel for the context of the sentence. So I'm going to skip to the next word.

Word #3
The other psychological issue at play is your expectation that the same letters in two or more words of the same sentence should be the same. No. That is not necessarily the case.

We know something's being divided, we just don't know what. In this word #3, and I may change it later as I go through the sentence, but I apologize to my brain that it may be a conjugated verb with the te- verb prefix of the first word, either...

• tekafele (ተካፈለ) be shared, split, be segmented, to divide (v.) (Amarigna)
• tekefele (ተከፈለ) be paid, be divided (v.) (Amarigna)

• to cut hair
• to count
• to enumerate

• to be counted, to be accounted for (נִסְפַּר)

• mekfel (መክፈል) pay (v.) (Amarigna)
• makafel (ማካፈል) distribute, share (v.) (Amarigna)
• mekefel (መከፈል) be divided (v.) (Amarigna)
• mekafel (መካፈል) to share (v.) (Amarigna)
• mekafel (መካፈል) to divide (v.) (Amarigna)

Note: I will continually add to this post, so please refresh to see if I've added anything to this retranslation.
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
I exceded the number of allowed images per post, so this is a continuation.

Word #4
For now we will agree that le is the Amarigna "to/for"...


Word #5
For now we will agree that the -ka is the masculine form of the Tigrigna "-to you," although I am not sure -ka can be added to le/"to/for" in this way...



But it is close enough so we can get to what's being divided... grain, or money, pay, etc.

So far all the words are those that I previously matched throughout the "Old Testament" and "New Testament." It is nice not to have to match a completely unexplored word.

Word #6
Again, for now I can basically agree with this word, their "from the start" my "center, medium, middle"...

• makel (ማእከል) middle, medium, center (n.) (Tigrigna)

Note: As in the earlier post, I will continually add to these posts, so please refresh to see if I've added anything to either retranslation.
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:


Just in case I was going crazy, Lioness, to try to make sense of how 3400 year-old farming reports were turned into religion 2000 years ago, I had to hire a number of experts, which included...

• An archaeologist with a Ph.D in Archaeology and Master of Arts degree in History
• A Harvard-trained Biblical Hebrew expert with a Master of Arts degree in Linguistics (specialization in Semitic Languages) and a Masters degree in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School
• A Serbian with a Master of Arts degree in Theology and undergraduate student at Faculty of Orthodox Theology in Classical Philology (Ancient Greek and Latin)
• An Aramaic/Syriac translator from Syria living in Germany
• Three Israeli translators/editors, one in Germany and the other two in Israel
• A professor with a PhD in Comparative Literature

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:


It turns out that both the Old and New Testaments are actually mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports... not religion. But the mistranslation into religion was intentional, the evidence showing it was likely done by the ancient Romans... but we won't get into that here.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
What about the Dead Sea Scrolls?
They were found in a cave in the Judaean Desert of the West Bank in 1947. Those wern't Roman

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• gan (ጋን) large jar (n.) (Amarigna)
• washa (ዋሻ) cave (n.) (Amarigna)/

"A genizah (or geniza; Hebrew: גניזה "storage"; plural: genizot or genizoth or genizahs)[2] is a storage area in a Jewish synagogue or cemetery designated for the temporary storage of worn-out Hebrew-language books and papers on religious topics prior to proper cemetery burial."

"Etymology - The word genizah comes from the Hebrew triconsonantal root g-n-z, which means "hiding", and originally meant "to hide" or "to put away".Later, it became a noun for a place where one put things, and is perhaps best translated as 'archive' or 'repository.'"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genizah

Also...

"Many thousands of written fragments have been discovered in the Dead Sea area. They represent the remnants of larger manuscripts damaged by natural causes or through human interference, with the vast majority only holding small scraps of text. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

So here is my retranslation...


 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
So of the above people do any of them think your theory below might be true?

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It is not our job to believe or disbelieve. We have to leave our biases to the side in order to do this.

But first, the translations of the "Bible" do not match current translations, while the Midrash and Rosetta Stone do match. That has nothing to do with whether we believe or not.

What it does is cause us to ask, why could this have been done and who could have done the mistranslations?
 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
I'm grateful for your in depth treatment on DE16.9.
Will ask a couple more pasuq translations later on, OK?

Not satisfied with available translations of the Gezer Calendar I decided
to do my own back in like 1998. I relied on the paperback of Pritchard The
Ancient Near East: an Anthology of Texts and Pictures for both the calendar
and the pre-Assyrian characters of the Canaanitic aleph-beth the Hebrews
used. For Phoenician-Hebrew-Aramaic word meanings I used Gesenius,
Jastrow, Brown Driver Briggs, and Tomback.




I'm interested in how you'd translate the Gezer Calander as a Hebrew text not an Ethiopic
one, since it like the TN"K is a Canaanitic/Aramaic work not Arabic, Ethiopic, nor any other
later era or distant region Semitic people's product.
 

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Posted by the lioness, (Member # 17353) on :
 

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:


Just in case I was going crazy, Lioness, to try to make sense of how 3400 year-old farming reports were turned into religion 2000 years ago, I had to hire a number of experts, which included...

• An archaeologist with a Ph.D in Archaeology and Master of Arts degree in History
• A Harvard-trained Biblical Hebrew expert with a Master of Arts degree in Linguistics (specialization in Semitic Languages) and a Masters degree in Theological Studies from Harvard Divinity School
• A Serbian with a Master of Arts degree in Theology and undergraduate student at Faculty of Orthodox Theology in Classical Philology (Ancient Greek and Latin)
• An Aramaic/Syriac translator from Syria living in Germany
• Three Israeli translators/editors, one in Germany and the other two in Israel
• A professor with a PhD in Comparative Literature

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
[QUOTE]
When you say "hire" did you pay them money do do some work for you?

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
[QUOTE]
When you say "hire" did you pay them money do do some work for you?

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Yes. They are still working for me.

And as for your second question, I have explained what I've posted on this board, which is only a tiny fraction of the re-translations, information and suspicions I shared with them.

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
I'm interested in how you'd translate the Gezer Calander...

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I cannot retranslate if I don't have a translation, transliteration and transcription of the text in question... In other words, I do not translate.

You have to understand I am having to retranslate documents that may be any particular form of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, including what is referred to as Hebrew, Aramaic, Cuneiform, Greek, Latin (yes all simply hieroglyphs) and other forms of the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic writing system. So it takes me a minute to relate one set of Egyptian hieroglyphs to another, which is easier if I'm dealing with limited text.

Harris Papyrus
For example, when I did the Harris Papyrus so-called, "Capture of Jaffa," (not a "capture") I was able to retranslate from an existing translation.

Source...
http://etheses.dur.ac.uk/3997/1/3997_1514.pdf

Partial retranslation that compares with the Papyrus of Ani...


Complete retranslation...
http://files.ancientgebts.org/HarrisPapyrus/Harris_Papyrus_story_of_Yafo_lines_1.1_through_1.5.pdf

Amarna Ur III catalogue from Nibru (N1)
Source...
etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?text=c.0.1.1&display=Crit&charenc=gcirc#

Retranslation...


Amarna EA104
Source...
EA 104

Retranslation...


Matthew 2:14
Source and retranslation...

 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
... did you say your theory was that both the Old and New Testaments are actually mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports?

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
Or are they working on the translations but don't know your theory?

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
...did they have an opinion on the theory?

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
So if both the Old and New Testaments are actually 1st century mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports, not religious texts and it was likely done by the ancient Romans did the Romans somehow transfer this to Hebrews living in ancient Israel and they had no Torah before the Romans of the 1st century?

Also Jesus was completely fictional?

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
So if both the Old and New Testaments are actually 1st century mistranslations of 3400 year-old ancient Egyptian farming/granary grain sales reports, not religious texts and it was likely done by the ancient Romans did the Romans somehow transfer this to Hebrews living in ancient Israel and they had no Torah before the Romans of the 1st century?

Also Jesus was completely fictional?

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The quick answer is yes and yes. We have conducted an exhaustive amount of research and have written drafts of the details of how it likely happened, why and the precise objective.

There are some serious twists and turns, but that is all I can say for now, since I haven't published the research yet.

But as a teaser, I produced this video...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZL1tliW5pg

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
"Was the Bible a corruption of Egyptian farming texts?"

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
"Was the Bible a corruption of Egyptian farming texts?"

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Wow. I like the title!

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
The video is well produced like an advertising agency might make.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
... however it does not make clear that you think Jesus did not exist at all.

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That was intentional. He also mentions the fictional "Eve."

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
It seems far fetched to me that a farming/grain report would be long enough and be similar enough to resemble the elaborate stories of the bible.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
I'm not sure "mistranslation" is appropriate description.
A mistranslation is where the title and identity of the work remains the same. One version is properly translated another is mistranslated.

But in this case it's meaning and title is entirely transformed.

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That's very technical.
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
"Was the Bible a corruption of Egyptian farming texts?" Or " Was the Bible a Roman Invention?
A linguistic and historical analysis"

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I thought I was being a little radical, but I think you beat me at it. You are much more upfront than me!
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 
The issue I have with being provocative is there are a lot of people who can be hurt if my retranslations are correct. A lot of people will feel betrayed including those associated with...

• The Church
• The Vatican itself and its agencies
• All "Bible" religions
• Pastors and priests
• Research funding agencies such as the US National Science Foundation (NSF) whose linguistic research funding reinforces the mistranslated lies that has led to serious cultural and societal terrorism (including colonialism, slavery and misogyny) caused by the "Bible"

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Originally posted by AncientGebts:
[QB] The issue I have with being provocative is there are a lot of people who can be hurt if my retranslations are correct. A lot of people will feel betrayed including those associated with...

• The Church
• The Vatican itself and its agencies
• All "Bible" religions
• Pastors and priests
• Research funding agencies such as the US National Science Foundation (NSF) whose linguistic research funding reinforces the mistranslated lies that has led to serious cultural and societal terrorism (including colonialism, slavery and misogyny) caused by the "Bible"

So being provocative is not something I'm too much interested in.

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
You just made a video with somebody portraying Jesus and saying "I'm not coming back". That is extremely provoctaive

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hehe
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
how have you rendered Deuteronomy 16.9

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Here is Deuteronomy 16:9...


 

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Posted by Tukuler (Member # 19944) on :
 
Do you use the Samaritan Pentateuch to vouchsafe your ancient Semitic script?
 

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Posted by AncientGebts (Member # 17037) on :
 

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
Do you use the Samaritan Pentateuch to vouchsafe your ancient Semitic script?

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Originally posted by the lioness,:
Ancient Gebts have you posted on any linguistics forums?

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Hello, William:

That is absolutely amazing to hear.

So...

1. The fact that all languages linguistically originate from Ethiopia (the same place as our earliest ancestors 4.4 million and 3.2 million years ago, etc.) has nothing to do with linguistics?

2. The fact that all the world's languages, including native American languages along with the rest as a result of migration out of Africa 50,000 years ago, are simply linguistic mispronunciations of Ethiopian words (they are not separate "languages" but maybe dialects or pidgin), has nothing to do with linguistics?

3. And the fact that Ethiopian language was the hieroglyphic language, with all it's linguistic complexities (that even modern PhD scholars have not yet seemed to figure out), has nothing to do with linguistics?

Wow. Just amazing.

Has NSF ever awarded any grant to the research/study of any ancient written languages? Any spoken so-called languages ever? If so, I would be very interested to know what languages those were.

Because it what I am doing is not linguistics, doesn't deserve funding, isn't important enough to receive funding... with even the very mispronounced words we are typing are not linguistically related to my research, as well as the very characters we are typing that are actually simplified hieroglyphs... then I don't understand what linguistics is.

Is there an available list of past recipients and details of their research work that have received funding that I can receive, without going through a Freedom of Information Act filing to get?

If every one of the world's languages are mispronunciations of Ethiopian words over those 50,000 years since leaving Africa and is not linguistics-related, I'd like to know how any of these descended pidgin versions of Ethiopian language can receive research funding.

And how are pidgin languages of the world's languages are more important than the what appears to be the original or close to it?

And finally, has any research proven that Africans didn't speak before leaving Africa and each of the world's languages were completely developed from scratch since leaving Africa 50,000 years ago?

Africans didn't speak before arriving in Europe? I would like to see the research. My 8 "Roots of Language" books shows with a basic set of 100 words, Tigrigna and Amarigna (written into the hieroglyphic language) are the roots of English, Spanish, German, Hindi, Chinese, Japanese, Hebrew and Russian. But according to your email, that is not linguistics.

Simply amazing.

Thank you.

Legesse Allyn

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So based on my research, much of what the NEH and other agencies, including the NSF, have funded and is funding is flawed research if any of which has drawn conclusions based on ancient texts. Perpetuating results that deepen the local, national and global societal and cultural divide should not be where the NEH is putting it's money. Sorry to say, but doing so is directly funding a type of international societal and cultural terrorism that has been ongoing for the past 2000 years. The unexpected and shocking results of my research proves it.

I would think the NEH and other funding agencies would be interested in proper research that is drawn on proper translations when ancient written texts are involved in any way, that serves the good of society... not destroys it. But those you have funded with research based on flawed ancient written texts are getting funded more because of who they are and/or what institutions they represent, not because their research is accurate or correctly represents societies and cultures it targets.

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Originally posted by Tukuler:
how have you rendered Deuteronomy 16.9

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I'd like to thank Tukuler for asking me this question. And although he didn't ask me to, I did the retranslation.

As I've said before, I never know what I will find in the underlying text of any part of the "Bible." So I enjoy receiving requests (normally private requests) to retranslate parts of the "Bible."

What is interesting is that the underlying texts always seem to relate to farming, in the underlying text of Deuteronomy 16.9 it appears to be dividing land. Afterward, it is interesting to retranslate surrounding sentences to see why the land is being divided.

Some people could hope for there to be religion finally in my retranslations, but the only "religion" I've found in the underlying text is the discussion of the Ancestors in a similar way the Ancestors are discussed in the Rosetta Stone.

Compare the underlying text of Genesis 47:11...


.. to the words in the Rosetta Stone...


The word Ntsl in this case translates to "detached/departed" (from netsele/"detach") from this world, the Ancestors. The hatchet with some linguistic "sound change" is metsrebi, the M the related N and the L the related R...


But notice in the "Bible" it is translated as Mistr/Mitsraim/"Egypt," mistakenly reversing the sound change back to metsre[bi]/"hatchet." Below we can see three metsrebi hieroglyphs from "An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary"...


In this way, Mitsraim anywhere in the "Bible" is not "Egypt," but is the Ancestors in heaven. So the question I ask is, how can anybody go to the "land of" when the word is not a place? Again, the Rosetta Stone is accurate and the "Bible" is not.



You could say the "land of the Ntsl," but still the transliteration into Mitsraim is inaccurate and was not a name of "Egypt," ever. Again, the Rosetta Stone shows the proof.

Below is the actual "Ntsl mehel" source for the mistranslated/mistransliterated Mitsra-im (the -t is plural in hieroglyphs, not -m, which is always "in, there, within")...


The other problem is that the word translated as "land" in the "Bible" is actually "farm."
 

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