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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MysterySolver: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [i]Recently, it has been proposed that [b]E3b originated in sub-Saharan Africa[/b] and expanded into the Near East and northern Africa at the end of the Pleistocene (Underhill et al. 2001).[/i] - Cruciani et al. 2004, Phylogeographic analysis of haplogroup E3b. ^ This is correct. [/QUOTE]...which would therefore render this incorrect: [i]sahara/sahel corridor as and area where E3 split to E3a and E3b?[/i] - rasol [QUOTE]rasol: Can mystery solver explain *why* he thinks the above is in contradiction to... [i]sahara/sahel corridor as and area where E3 split to E3a and E3b?[/i] [/QUOTE]Simple: Because of the glaring fact that the Sahara is not "sub-Saharan", duh. It is simple geography not even your kindergarten sibling will fail, like you're doing, I can guarantee you that. Btw, ever read the Cruciani et al. 2004 publication in question? Doesn't sound like you have. [QUOTE]rasol: (???) Notwithstanding that the sahel is also sub-saharan, understanding the area of the split actually requires us to know the range of underived E3.[/QUOTE]*Spinning* yourself to dizziness, huh!...by first treating the Sahara and Sahel as though they were one and same as evidenced by "sahara/sahel", and now, trying to transition into saying that the Sahel is "sub-Saharan"...the hallmark of crack-.science. So it will be 'sahel/sub-Saharan' next, right? [QUOTE]rasol: Underived E3 is found in Ethiopia and Senegal. Ethiopia also has underived E3b, whereas Senegal has underived E3a.[/QUOTE]This has got be so stupid that it will likely read off a 'barometer' measuring stupidity. If you bothered to do simple reading, you'd have learnt that not only is E3 rare in Sahara, which you keep bragging about being the place of origin, but that it has the highest frequencies in Ethiopia. It has *much* lower frequencies in Senegal. Do yourself a favor; read! [QUOTE]rasol: How Mystery solver thinks E3 got to Ethiopia and Senegal without crossing the sahara/sahel he doesn't say.[/QUOTE]You would avoid a strange lie like this, if only you were energetic enough or intellectually powerful enough to bother reading, like every normal being does. Already posted above, but ignored by rasol: [i]Both phylogeography and microsatellite variance suggest that [b]E-P2 and its derivative, E-M35, probably originated in eastern Africa.[/b] This inference is further supported by the presence of additional Hg E lineal diversification and by the highest frequency of E-P2* and E-M35* in the same region. The distribution of E-P2* appears limited to eastern African peoples. The E-M35* lineage shows its highest frequency (19.2%) in the Ethiopian Oromo but with a wider distribution range than E-P2*.[/i] - Semino et al., [b]Origin, diffusion, and differentiation of Y-chromosome haplogroups E and J.[/b] [QUOTE]rasol: It remains a [b]mystery[/b].[/QUOTE]^Petty smokescreen. The real mystery here, is the whereabouts of your 'evidence' contrary to what's been presented. Where is your "evidence to the contrary" or even evidence pointing to specified origins in the Sahara? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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