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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [qb] When I say Asian looking I mean with features similar to other populations found in Asia who are light skinned. The point being that some people believe that certain features associated with asians developed AFTER the arrival of the Negrito populations, with the later features being associated with light skin. My argument is that Negrito populations are just ONE TYPE of the darker skinned aboriginal populations that have been in Asia for the last 30,000 years and the remains of the aboriginal black non negrito Asian types can be found in some of the more remote pacific Islands not decimated by foreign contact.[/qb][/QUOTE]That depends on what features you mean. There are many features that were possessed by blacks first and foremost before lighter-skinned types evolved. However, I hope you aren't making a division between fair-skinned East Asians and darker ones such as myself to differences in overall ancestry as such differences are just as much due to simple variance as differences in complexion between black populations. [QUOTE][qb]But indeed this is off topic and dare I say maybe we should re-create that pacific/asian ancestry thread? [/qb][/QUOTE]You might as well, because not only do I find it annoying that we are getting off-topic again about the same Pacific ancestry mess involving ME, but even more infuriated that it stemmed from the remarks of a troll. :rolleyes: By the way, strangely I've noticed some of the deleted threads can still be viewed on google. Maybe you can find it there. [/qb][/QUOTE]I pretty much meant what I said. ALL features found in Asian populations started out FIRST among blacks. Slanted eyes, straight hair, high cheeks, thin lips and so forth were found first among black populations even prior to the development of white skin. White skin is 20,000 years old. Humans have been in Asia for 90,000. It stands to reason that those black populations certainly began to develop natural variations in features in various parts of Asia between 90,000 and 20,000 years ago. It isn't like these populations stayed homogenous for 70,000 years and then suddenly started developing a large amount of varied traits within the last 20,000 years. The range of diversity seen in early populations in Asia can best be seen between Australia and New Guinea and the Islands therebouts. The Solomon islands have been said to have the highest amount of diversity genetically and in features of almost any place on earth. They are ALL black. Remember, as you go back towards Africa in the time line of humanity, the MORE diversity you will find. [QUOTE] Human genetic diversity in the Pacific has not been adequately sampled, particularly in Melanesia. As a result, population relationships there have been open to debate. A genome scan of autosomal markers (687 microsatellites and 203 insertions/deletions) on 952 individuals from 41 Pacific populations now provides the basis for understanding the remarkable nature of Melanesian variation, and for a more accurate comparison of these Pacific populations with previously studied groups from other regions. It also shows how textured human population variation can be in particular circumstances. Genetic diversity within individual Pacific populations is shown to be very low, while differentiation among Melanesian groups is high. Melanesian differentiation varies not only between islands, but also by island size and topographical complexity. The greatest distinctions are among the isolated groups in large island interiors, which are also the most internally homogeneous. The pattern loosely tracks language distinctions. Papuan-speaking groups are the most differentiated, and Austronesian or Oceanic-speaking groups, which tend to live along the coastlines, are more intermixed. A small “Austronesian” genetic signature (always <20%) was detected in less than half the Melanesian groups that speak Austronesian languages, and is entirely lacking in Papuan-speaking groups. Although the Polynesians are also distinctive, they tend to cluster with Micronesians, Taiwan Aborigines, and East Asians, and not Melanesians. These findings contribute to a resolution to the debates over Polynesian origins and their past interactions with Melanesians. With regard to genetics, the earlier studies had heavily relied on the evidence from single locus mitochondrial DNA or Y chromosome variation. Neither of these provided an unequivocal signal of phylogenetic relations or population intermixture proportions in the Pacific. Our analysis indicates the ancestors of Polynesians moved through Melanesia relatively rapidly and only intermixed to a very modest degree with the indigenous populations there. [/QUOTE]From: http://genetics.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.0040019&ct=1 These are the same people claiming that Pacific Islanders are different genetically from Melanesians. However, on the basis of what I have seen, the similarity in culture, custom and features from between Papua New Guinea and the pacific islands, makes the idea that these people are the result of a DIFFERENT migration from Asia that WENT AROUND the aboriginal populations of Melanesia, Australia and New Guinea more and more ridiculous every day. It sounds like they are trying to pull another Egypt versus Nubia trick in the pacific. In fact I know they are with all the white mainland Asian looking women European producers keep promoting as Miss Polynesia and Miss South Pacific and what not in . Vintage images of Polynesia: http://www.oceania-ethnographica.com/polynesia.html [IMG]http://www.janeresture.com/tahiti_postcards18/Old%20Tahiti%20postcard%20-%20Concert%20Tahitien.jpg[/IMG] From: http://www.janeresture.com/tahiti_postcards18/index.htm Interesting videos about Tahitian culture: http://dl.filmaust.com.au/module/236/ http://dl.filmaust.com.au/module/235/ [/QB][/QUOTE]
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