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[QUOTE]Originally posted by akoben08: [QB] No not a English major. So I would see [i]grudge:[URL=http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861615612/grudge.html]2. envy something: to be envious or resentful of somebody for something[/URL].[/i] [Encarta World English Dictionary] though different from jealousy as not "completely divergent concepts". Whatever nuance you want to debate is fine, but like I said, I fully understand why you insist on this one. [QUOTE] Your hatred for any civility towards Jews notwithstanding, I watched that meeting live and Sen. Obama compromised nothing by way of his long held plans to help change Washington. This is just bitter rhetoric with no basis n reality, as usual. No substance behind your charges, just bitter rants and racially charged diatribes. You must truly hate yourself.[/QUOTE]What didn't compromise his values? your faith that it was only rhetoric or what he actually said? [QUOTE] Like I said, A citizenry can only depend on its government concerning foreign and domestic policy. Not cultural and individual progress or self-determination. Keep trying to spin out of that isolated quotation what you will, but the meaning is the same.[/QUOTE]No isolation, no spin. Only quote what you said at the time. Too late now for the edit button. LOL [QUOTE] You strongly advocate separatism which is evident from your rhetoric. The "separate island nation" comment was obviously hyperbole.[/QUOTE]Give me f**king break, don't put words in my mouth because you dont have an argument. [QUOTE] This is NOT an alternative, nor a strategic plan to get out of bondage. It is a cultural statement of pride that does little to solve the political issues that directly affect minorities on a daily basis. It offers no means of co-existing while working to change government. It looks to isolate a group of people based on sub-culture, while ignoring the mainstream culture that we're a part of and need to evolve into. Democrat, republican, they are just labels. The ideas is what makes this country great. I think Obama has the best ideas out of any candidate. My position of course being that Obama is our best choice for president. You on the other hand, approach that view as if we don't need a president at all, being that you are opposed to my position, but can't seem to justify your opposition by naming a "better candidate" and why. In other words, you're either just trolling or are confused.[/QUOTE]Wow! Talk about incoherent scatter brained garbage! Now you see us as being in "bondage" yet you liked America just fine!?!?! YOU SLAVE! HAHAHAH You now concede [i]"Democrat, republican, they are just labels."[/i] What happened to savior Obama???? Oh my, you really are a Dubois! But contrary to your view, assimilation ([i]"the mainstream culture that we're a part of and need to evolve into."[/i]) will NEVER take place; years of "bondage" despite America being a "good idea" should have convinced you by now. But you are a dreamer, I give you that. LOL [QUOTE] If this is a cheap way to undermine the study, keep in mind that it's from last year, not "at the end of a Democratic presidency and a republican congress".. Your attention deficit disorder is definitely a hindrance.[/QUOTE]Not "undermining it" just showing how you shot yourself in the foot. And I thought it was [i]a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data[/i], but if you are going to argue that they succeed even under Bush then you have just [b]killed yourself![/b] LMAO! [QUOTE] You had no argument, you didn't even believe me when I told you and your point was about in group solidarity. This actually undermines whatever point you had since Africans (unlike African Americans) don't put much emphasis on in group, ethnic identity politics. Their success has more to do with OTHER cultural habits.[/QUOTE]I knew of that study was looking for it for the longest while, and baited you to post it, knowing it will undermine your "best candidate" thesis. Don't cry on me now that you are a sucker. And African immigrants by and large, like other immigrant "model minorities", are in-group oriented which is why there is such a thing as an "African immigrant community" i.e. they aren't assimilated. Your problem is you mistake simply wearing black pride t-shirts and saying Eeeguupttt is black like rasolowitz etc with my concept of "in-group" orientation. LOL [QUOTE] Ok, well if it's all about "doing for self" then what is it about America and its policies that allows them to more easily "do for self" than back home, where according to you, government doesn't affect lives since it's all about "doing for one's self"? Obviously you're confused and are [b]changing your argument[/b] every other reply only to be trapped in your own contradictions. [/QUOTE]You wish white nord. Your confusion stems from you building straws and them not working. Never used your term "all about" doing for self, I shy away from such absolute alternatives like you. I am not saying America doesn't provide opportunities (even as she destroys other countries) for success, [b]just that we don't need an Obama to take advantage of them.[/b] Clearly African immigrants made good of the opportunities (without Obama and under a republican congress, under the same "culture of Washington" he now wants to change), so should other blacks. You have no argument. [QUOTE]Which is the "false dichotomy"? What is the object of comparison and how are they being illogically distinguished? What are you talking about? Please, make some sense.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] never advocated separatism! [/QUOTE] [QUOTE][b]Yes you have.. If you haven't,[/b] then you sure speak the language and I would honestly have no idea what your point would then be. Stop wasting my time. You have in one day, flip flopped more than anybody I've ever engaged on this forum. 680 posts in one month (20+ posts a day) about nothing.[/QUOTE]No "flip flopping" you're just a [b]liar[/b]. You can't even make up your mind if I said it [i]"Yes you have.. ..If you haven't,"[/i]. HAHA Can't have your cake and eat it liar-liar. [QUOTE] As well as isolation, radicalism, overthrowing government, revolutionary warfare, and intra-ethnic intolerance, according to your strange ideas.[/QUOTE]More lies, show where I say all that! [QUOTE] Filler. Point that you sly away from being that you claimed these were not conspiracy theories. I've clearly refuted that assertion. Therefore, I am not obligated to refute every google seach that you make since google wars are perpetual ones. The easiest way to refute claims made from google searches is through another google search. Why waste my time. I'm not you (a google scholar).[/QUOTE]You little insect, you know damn well ad hominem is the oldest trick in the book. You pull this s**t now for obvious reasons. But if you think they are all "conspiracy theories", then demonstrate. But be careful, you might end up looking as stupid [URL=http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/03/10/images/Alan_Dershowitz-450.jpg]as this critic.[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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