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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion a.k.a bi-polar: How did your so called European fabricators make mummies that had Northern Hemisphere features?[/QUOTE]No such mummies exist. And please don't post any pictures of Ramses II; he's been discussed millions of times on here. [/qb][/QUOTE]The mummies all fit in the North African type withere [above the equator], have the same featurh North African features that existed prior to European influence. [/qb][/QUOTE]North Africa isn't a part of the "Northern Hemisphere", and what exactly differentiates North African features from other African features, namely from the horn?? In addition, I'm still confused as to which mummies you're talking about. "Types" don't exist in Africa. You suffer from the same "typological thinking" that Keita warns us against. [/qb][/QUOTE]Huh? Look up Northern Hemisphere! Besides, there is a climatic difference between equatorial africa and northern africa. Indigenous people of either area would adapt differently over time. [/qb][/QUOTE]My mistake, but it seems that the "Northern Hemisphere" as technically defined, includes ALL of west Africa, and parts of central and east Africa, so your so-called "Northern Hemisphere features" comprise that which is seen in those places which would include more than half of the world's diversity, so you still make no sense. And there are climate differences all over Africa. The climate in Northwest Africa is quite different from that in the NorthEast so you can't pigeon hold Africa or attribute features exclusively to one climate, ignoring complex migration patterns and demographic effects in the Nile valley, as well as actual climate/geological changes and recent population divergences. The way you used the term "Northern Hemisphere" [in relation to 'features'] was confusing. The connotation I honestly got was that of Europe and Asia, etc, as opposed to just "north of the equator". Surely you aren't saying the Nigerians, who are firmly and technically within the Northern Hemisphere though, have the same "features" as East Asians, who also reside in the Northern Hemisphere. Besides, you've still yet to show which mummies you're talking about since Sonia Zakrzewski, Robins, Kemp, Keita and others already confirm a body plan in the ancient Egyptians [spanning all locales and time periods] reflective of a tropical [Equatorial] adaptation, and "super-Negroid" limb proportions. [QUOTE]"[i]Another source of skeletal data is limb proportions, which generally vary with different climatic belts. In general, the early Nile Valley remains have the proportions of more tropical populations, [b]which is noteworthy since Egypt is not in the tropics[/b]. This suggests that the Egyptian Nile Valley was not primarily settled by cold-adapted peoples, such as Europeans. [/i]"[/QUOTE]- Keita, S.O.Y., http://www.forumcityusa.com/viewtopic.php?t=318&mforum=africa and: [i]The nature of the body plan was also investigated by comparing the intermembral, brachial, and crural indices for these samples with values obtained from the literature. [b]No significant differences were found in either index through time for either sex. The raw values in Table 6 suggest that Egyptians had the “super-Negroid” body plan described by Robins (1983)[/b]. The values for the brachial and crural indices show that the distal segments of each limb are longer relative to the proximal segments than in many “African” populations (data from Aiello and Dean, 1990). This pattern is supported by Figure 7 a plot of population mean femoral and tibial lengths; (data from Ruff, 1994), which indicates that [b]the Egyptians generally have tropical body plans[/b]. Of the Egyptian samples, only the Badarian and Early Dynastic period populations have shorter tibiae than predicted from femoral length. Despite these differences, [b]all samples lie relatively clustered together as compared to the other populations[/b].[/i] - Sonia Zakrzewski (2003) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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