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Blacks in secret sociaties,help or hinderance?Black FreeMasons help maintain the under ground rail road during slavery,slave rebellions sometimes got started by African inspiried secret sociaties.but on the other hand secrecey often inspire corruption and nephewtism.they are by their very nature suspect of habouring ill will to sociaty at large. then there is this guy Strokly Coke? who charge that black secret sociaties hinders the developement of blacks etc: sabotaging Marcus Garvey and having ties to some notorious white secret sociaties such as Skull and Bones,so the question help or hinder?
ackee Member # 16371
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Sorry the guys name is Steve Cokely.check him out on youtube.
Lord Sauron Member # 6729
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quote:Originally posted by ackee: but on the other hand secrecey often inspire corruption and nephewtism.
WTF is nephewtism.
ackee Member # 16371
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nepotism. knew it was wrong couldent go back and fix it,plus moms dident give birth to a spelling champ
Lord Sauron Member # 6729
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^ she sure didn't, ..
ackee Member # 16371
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ok ok enough with the water boarding already, did you check out the youtube video with Steve Cokely?
akoben Member # 15244
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Why are you so interested in Cokely and his video? Didn't you say you didn't want to know who controlled Obama?
Lord Sauron Member # 6729
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The Steve Cokely video has been on rotation for at least a couple years now.
The problem is he doesn't back up what he says with evidence. And since these societies are so "secret" he doesn't reveal any secret that can lead you to any solid ideas about what these societies are really all about.
ackee Member # 16371
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Well sometimes i want the blue pill,comfortable life not disrupted.but deep down i need the red pill. yes Sauron i tried to find more my self but came up empty.but is it a good or bad thing over all,these sociaties?
Lord Sauron Member # 6729
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It really depends. Nothing is "good" or "bad" in the purest sense. But there are always consequences to our actions.
It's like how we're known here for denouncing racism. We say it's bad because white people in power use it to their advantage, and to our detriment. However, from the point of view of the white elites (or the idiot whites who they use to maintain the system), racism is obviously a good thing.
So I wouldn't say secret societies are bad, but that it depends on what their secrecy is all about (i.e. its ramifications). Clearly, secrecy in government will have some negative consequences for some people and positive consequences for others (especially those who are "in" on the secret).
Now, imagine there is a secret society, sort of like the Jedi in the Star Wars fiction. Imagine that the purpose of their secrecy is to keep a certain powerful knowledge from wealthy & wicked carnal people who happen to be in power, then to me these are "good guys" despite their secrecy in operation.
It all depends on the observer.
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ackee Member # 16371
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But i'snt that what most secret sociaties claims that they are really the good guys and we should trust them?IE;Bildaburgers,C.f.R and the Trilateral commission.well the last two arn't realy seceret sociaties but they are at least elitist.and the Bilderburgers are quite tight liped.the problem i have is when people makes decisions on my behalf without informing me first.
Lord Sauron Member # 6729
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quote:Originally posted by ackee: the problem i have is when people makes decisions on my behalf without informing me first.
Can you expand on this.
I wonder if it's possible for anyone to avoid this problem. Example: if you were having an ice-cream and some jealous hater decides to knock down your ice-cream (the last one in the vicinity) so that you couldn't have it anymore. Was it your decision to not have an ice-cream or was that decision made on your behalf?
ackee Member # 16371
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Well that was clearly mr.Hater's decision to mess with my...hemmm vanilla ice cream with rosted almond sprinkles N chocolet syrup: the bastered". ,but for real thu,the point of freedom/democracy is to have a choice, lets say you have a grand idea would'nt it be better to share it before hand,to make sure everyone is on the same page.
quote:Originally posted by ackee: lets say you have a grand idea would'nt it be better to share it before hand,to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Agreed. But what if the idea man was so excited about the idea he went ahead and implemented it being so sure the team would love the idea. But then maybe the team hates the idea. Spontaneity is a two-edged sword I guess. Fyi, I wouldn't recommend this behaviour for Jedi.
ackee Member # 16371
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Me too the darkside an all, thanks Meninarmer that's the video, but like Sauron said it is difficult to confirm or deny his claims, i have also tried to find out more but got stuck.
ANTIBODY{herukhuti} Member # 11484
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Friend of mine is in one of those fraternities Cockly listed among the 8 in the video. There's not much mystery to these organisations.
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