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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] @ lion I will try to answer you questions. 1) During the last Ice Age, Cro-Magnon man was unable to exit the caves because of the Ice. As a result, these Blacks were in the caves for thousands of years. During this extended period of time the Blacks were depigmented. 2-3,6) The Chinese also claim they originated in a mountainous area: Huang Shang mountain range. Huangshan mountains [IMG]http://www.chinahighlights.com/image/attraction/yellow-mountain/huangshan-scenic-area/huangshan-scenic-area-121.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.walkopedia.net/magazineone/icon-huangshan.jpg[/IMG] Here we also find many caves. [IMG]http://www.easytourchina.com/china-photos/Huangshan/Huashan-Mysterious-Caves/images/Stone%20Column%20At%20Huashan%20Caves.jpg[/IMG] If there were blacks in these caves during the last Ice Age they would have been the Australian or Aborigine Blacks who left Africa 60kya. [b] Australians[/b] [IMG]http://lovebug25.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/278607big1.jpg[/IMG] [b]Chinese[/b] [IMG]http://tomwolters.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/children_poem_recital.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/Archive/view-assets/Feb-17-2006/page_1_archaology.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://english.people.com.cn/200704/17/images/xin_3304041616509812060976.jpg[/IMG] [b]Aborigines[/b] [IMG]http://www.science-facts.com/aborigines.jpg[/IMG] This would explain the links between Australians and Chinese in relation to hair texture and the red hair of both populations. 4) People could not enter Europe before the last Ice Age from Egypt because the Neanderthal people dominated the Levant. 5) The spread of Cro-Magnon from Spain to Eastern Europe is supported by the spread of Aurignacian artifacts. 7) It is clear from the linguistic evidence that the first Indo-Europeans migrated eastward and westward from Anatolia into Europe and India. Light skinned people could not have originated in North Africa. Craniometrics and examination of pelvis bones indicate that whites only recently entered North Africa. I hope this has answered your questions. [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lion: [qb] @Clyde Winters Please consolidate some of your info as per which areas they came into first these areas: 1. Turkey 2. Persia 3. Africa 4. Greece 5. Caucasus, Russia + Eastern Europe 6. Western Europe 7. Spain 8. Italy 9. Nordic countries 10.Middle East Like I said at the beginning I'm not saying Caucasians where the first people in these areas. I'm asking in which areas from earliest to last did they first come from? 1)You are saying Caucasians came from Cro-Magnon black people probably the San who spread the Aurignacian from Spain to the Caucasus mountains. And you are saying they lost their pigmentation from living in caves. Of course they couldn't have stayed in the caves all day long because you need fire wood and to go out and hunt all day long outside to find animals and kill them for food and also forage for some leaves and berries which take time to gather. You can see on pre-historic cave walls in France that they were always showing hunting scenes. There are also people who lived in caves in South Africa. But the whole North of the Equator has less sun. I don't see how it has to do with the shelter itself. These other white cave creatures never go out of the cave so you can't compare. You hunt and gather in the day and sleep in a cave or a wood shelter at night it makes no difference. It takes all day to hunt and even if your outside all day long you are wearing clothes that protect you from the cold and the same time prevents you from getting Vitamin D. Therefore if your head is going to be exposed you would need to have lighter skin to absorb as much of the lesser sun in those areas. 2) The Chinese, some are medium toned skin and many millions are as pale as white people. How did this occur? Are they also from Cro-Magnon black people who spread the Aurignacian? If you look at Asian facial features they have much smaller noses than the San people. The eye shape is different and their hair is straight. 3) How did Asian people's hair get straight? 4) You mentioned Spain as the entry point. What about coming from Egypt, going into the Middle East and spreading into Asia. That's also closer to China. And closer to the Caucasus. 5) If you look at the whole top quarter of the world, the whole area above Africa there's less sunlight there. If Caucasian people were formally black because of less sunlight that must mean there are people who settled not as far north who are an in between skin color due to a medium amount of sun. That's simple logic. Therefore while some medium toned people could be the result of the extremes of a light skinned person having a child with a dark skinned person there would be many more who never mixed, they just didn't go as far North as the people who would became Caucasian. You said from Spain to the Caucasus. There is a lot of territory between Spain and the Caucasus. Northern China is also farther North than the Caucus. 6) If you say that people were migrating out of Africa from Spain what about migrating out of Egypt? That's a much closer distance to the Caucasus. You have Iran on the way and those people look Caucasian. Yes the original people who first came there where black. But as they stayed there their skin must have lightened. 7) Is it possible that the origin of all light skinned people including many Chinese all came from North West Africa and moved from there into Spain and then parts of Asia? Maybe. If you look on a map if people were migrating into Spain it goes straight into Western Europe then you have to go a lot more East to get to the Caucuses. If this is where these Cro Magnon black people changed into Caucasians that means that they would then have to double back in migration and go back West and populate Western Europe as Caucasians and also Nordic countries like Norway and Finland. It doesn't seem to make sense. It doesn't seem logical that Caucasians would only originate in the Caucus mountains just because there are mountains there. There are also caves in Western Europe, in South Africa, South America and all over the world. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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