...
Post A Reply
my profile
|
directory
login
|
register
|
search
|
faq
|
forum home
»
EgyptSearch Forums
»
Deshret
»
Fulani, ancestry and admixture?
» Post A Reply
Post A Reply
Login Name:
Password:
Message Icon:
Message:
HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by NonProphet: Nothing I nor Tishkoff stated or quoted previously contradicts your post. Tishkoff discovered at least 15 distinct AAC groups and Africa has the greatest heterogeneity and admixture of any continent. [/QUOTE]Simple. Africa has got the greatest diversity phylogenetically than those anywhere else. This doesn't make one African group less authentically African than another, as your "admixture" might suggest. It simply means Africans have more contrasts in their gene pools than non-Africans, which goes back to the fact that it is the original home of homo sapiens sapiens. As for this: [i]Reply to Winters: The origins of the Fulani remain unknown Laura B. Scheinfeldt, Sameer Soi, and Sarah A. Tishkoff1 + Author Affiliations University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA 19104 We would like to first point out that [b]we never interpreted any genetic data in our review article to support a Middle Eastern or European origin for the Fulani (1). We agree with Winters that the Fulani do not originate from the Middle East or Europe (2)[/b]. Furthermore, [b]we do not maintain that there is a predominance of Eurasian markers in the Fulani[/b]; we merely point out that there is some evidence of [b]shared[/b] recent ancestry (i.e., gene flow) between the Fulani and Eurasian populations …[/i] There is a difference between saying "shared" recent ancestry, and claiming [i]uni[/i]-directional gene flow. Clearly from the language of Tishkoff et al.'s piece below, the latter more immediately comes to mind. The former can be interpreted to mean "sharing" the [i]same source[/i] population before bifurcation event(s), but not necessarily mean that one living group derives from another living one, and the below will at a quick glance demonstrate why. [i]The Fulani cluster with the Chadic and Central Sudanic speaking populations at K <13>[b]Fulani show low to moderate levels of European/Middle Eastern ancestry (blue)[/b], consistent with mtDNA (S93) and Y chromosome (S89) analyses, as well as the presence at low frequency of the -13910 mutation associated with lactose tolerance in Europeans in this population (S94). Additionally, [b]we observe moderate to high levels of Niger- Kordofanian ancestry[/b] in the Fulani populations (Figs. 3, 4, S13;Tables S8, S9). These results do not enable us to determine the definitive origin of the Fulani, although they indicate shared ancestry with Saharan and Central Sudanic populations and suggest that the Fulani have admixed with local populations, and possibly adopted a Niger-Kordofanian language, during their spread across central and western Africa. The [b]origin of European (possibly via the Iberian peninsula) and/or Middle Eastern ancestry in the Fulani requires further exploration with additional genetic markers[/b].[/i] Elsewhere I noted: ...the Fula uniparental gene pool specifics, whether maternal or paternal, simply do not bear out "moderate" ancestry from "Middle East" or "Europe". It is interesting to note that while the authors carry themselves as very confused individuals about Fulani ancestry, their own tables (see S8) show very little AAC sharing with Europeans; their Nigerian Fulani sample supposedly shared ~5 % or so AACs placed under "European", while the Cameroonian Fula samples shared about 2.5% and 2.6% respectively. Nothing "moderate" about these. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Instant Graemlins
Instant UBB Code™
What is UBB Code™?
Options
Disable Graemlins in this post.
*** Click here to review this topic. ***
Contact Us
|
EgyptSearch!
(c) 2015 EgyptSearch.com
Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3