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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan: [QB] Originally posted by Zemede: [b]Hi Everyone, First of all, I wish you all a happy new year. I was in Paris to celebrate the beginning of '2011. Anyways... Thank you all so far for your interesting feedbacks. I would like to give each topic a short answer to demonstrate you all that I am with you.[/b] Happy new year. [b]1. regarding the location of punt like ironlion showed us punt is even not written like punt its pwnt or brnt... it is based on a baboon research undertaken by some scientists...it is an exception that they got it right.[/b] Fine, so we have Eritrea as another possible location for Punt to go with Somalia and other spots. [b]2. regarding the spread of afro-asiatic .. We believe that tigrigna is the origin for the arabic hebrew, geez, amarigna ect. Tigrigna is what they call Afro-Asiatic. Tigrigna is the origin of any semitic language.[/b] What credible evidence do you have that shows this is so? We just can’t go by what people believe in terms of rational science. Some believe space aliens built or guided construction of the pyramids. If your belief is a religious one beyond mere human reason, that is a different sphere from the here and now of producing actual evidence. [b]3. other african symbols I knew that in west africa that there were symbols use to communicate but I haven't read that this symbols were used to pronounce something. If they were sorry. Glad to hear that. If they are still used I am more than pleased.[/b] Said scripts Explorer referred to are indeed in place. Keep in mind also that Europeans did not invent the writing and alphabets that they use. They copied those from peoples outside Europe. [b]4. why eritreans are not special but unique I believe that foreigners have damaged the proud habesha people by calling them mixed between native africans and israelis and arabs. in fact arabs are half habeshas and half asians. even though it doesn't matter of they weren't. for western people it has been unbelievable why africans can look like them.[/b] I think you have it backward. It is the Africans who started out with the built-in diversity that gives narrow noses, pale skin, varied hair etc. Everyone else followed the Africans. The 'surprise’ so to speak is that white Europeans look like Africans, rather than the heavy-browed Neanderthals or Cro-Magnons of Europe, as seems to be the desired line Of descent by some Aryan proponents on the web. [b] this does not make them special. habeshas (eritreans) are africans who lived on the continent for more than 80 000 years. they don't look semitic (because semitic is non sense) they just look africans. asians and europeans directly and indirectly are decedent of habeshas east africans.[/b] You still have not shown any evidence as to where these Habesahs came from if they were around 80,000 years ago. Did they spring up from the soil of Eritrea 80,000 years ago? How did they get there? [b]5. west-asians being african interesting evolution map. the world 4000 years ago was totally different from today. we know for example that the people in babylon were speaking tigrigna[/b] What you “know” is false absent credible evidence. Can you give an example of the ancient Babylonian language and why it was Tigrigna? Give some words from ancient Babylonian compared to ancient Tigrana and show why they are similar.. [b] 6. eritrean and ethiopian issue because eritrea is very young as a nation but one of the oldest place in terms of african history all credit in the past and even in the present are given to ethiopia. ethiopian amara have inherited their writing system and their culture in large from ethiopia...but the word thinks its the other way round... [/b] This may well be, but you have to show credible evidence in support. So far, not much is forthcoming. [b]7. how i see this forum i think there are some people who enjoy to argue on facts and some on their own findings but most by referring to other sources. new discoveries don't come from quoting others... [/b] New discoveries come by being familiar with basic existing facts of a matter. The Egyptians were familiar with simple counting and symbol systems before they innovated their writing systems. So far, all you have done is tell us what you “believe”. But what you believe means nothing without supporting evidence. Where is it? [b]regarding the answers i continually get from IronLion it is a waste of time. I think he (like some others) wants to keep egypt a mystery, because this is the only way to be part of a culture that africans have created. if no one knows where the ancient egyptians came from and who they were everyone can keep claiming that they came from his/ her ancestors. [/b] We already know where the ancient Egyptians were from. What is there to “claim”? [b]I am not interested to make egypt mine because I am an african only.[/b] This makes no sense because Ancient Egyptians are indigenous Africans. [b] I make it because I can read the hieroglyphs and because I can discover clear relations to my culture and people. [/b] If you can do all this reading, why haven’t you yet produced much credible evidence to back up what You “believe”? [b]And the end of the day the whole debate, which created about 999 comments on the topic " The Race of the Ancient Egyptians" has been finally answered to me with the simple fact that ramsis and nefretitis name are written in tigrigna and not arabic and not hebrew and not koptic and not greek ect.[/b] What credible evidence can you produce to support your claim? 50th request… :} [b]With my statement and discoveries I am not trying to take away ancient egypt away from africans. I am giving all africans an answer to a difficult question: who were Ancient Egyptians that National Geographic depicted as European? Because Habeshas are Africans I think all Africans can be proud that the Ancient Egyptians came from Eritrea/ North Ethiopia and that they still exist today.[/b] How do we know your claim is correct since you refuse to put credible evidence forward? [b] With my argument I am repairing a destroyed image of Africa that was put in place to keep people small and make them appear useless.[/b] Actually you may be confusing the image of Africa with your “Habesha supreme” notions.. [b]If you want to debate with me on why Habeshas are the ancestors of Ancient Egypts please do it by refering to facts and examples, but not by rejecting it without a reason because it's not yours... [/b] There are plenty of reasons to reject your claims because you have put forward little credible evidence to support them. There is little to “debate” until you do. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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