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[QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by typeZeiss: [qb] Do you understand how these statements of yours make you seem as if your ability to approach a subject in an intelligent/rational manner is deficient? Everything is context my man.[/qb][/QUOTE]Please show me one argument I made above that is not in context "my man", or is this rant your attempt to avoid the fact that you have no intelligent response to me. [QUOTE]As I said, at least half of Iran to this very day is still black or mulatto. So blacks have always been there since the very beginning, and your two pictures doesn’t prove otherwise.[/QUOTE]Strawman fallacy.. Show me where I said anywhere that Persia did not have native black peoples from the beginning. Provide direct quotes. [QUOTE]Nor does it disprove the fact that blacks played a major role in that society. Were they the kings and queens? I have no idea,[/QUOTE]Of course you have no idea because your interest with Persia only stems from some black washing Afrocentric agenda. Anything that does not mention blacks in Persia would not interest you. [QUOTE]haven’t really looked into that bit, and from the looks of it, outside of you going to flickr and google, you haven’t either.[/QUOTE]Actually I have, try not to put words in your opponents mouth, it makes you look ignorant. I'm even willing to bet you have no clue where the Achaemenids kings came from, nor about the Sythians and Sassinids?? I mean we have coins of the Sassinids, Images of the Safavid Dynasty and What about what Sextus Empiricus descibing the Persians as whites and Al-Jahiz?? (Are they google and Flickr??) Whats even more devastating for you is that the Greek Images of the Achaemenids look no different than that of the Sassinids and Saffafids but were made before them. [QUOTE]But from the writings of Diop and Rawlinson (the only two who I have read on the subject)[/QUOTE]Obviously. [QUOTE]they did play major roles; otherwise they wouldn’t have been depicted.[/QUOTE]Where did I argue otherwise?? [QUOTE]When you want to prove your point, flickr pictures and pictures picked up off of Google isn’t going to help your case.[/QUOTE]You do realize your sole source was from [b]Google[/b]books?? Further other contrary your ranting nothing I provided came "Google" other than an Image I found to refute Mike's image he found off google. Al-Jahiz, Sextus empericus are not google.. [QUOTE]Try doing real research, read these hard cover things with paper in between them called books. They are generally housed in these huge buildings, with few people inside them, called libraries. You should find your way to one and actually read a book, it never killed anyone.[/QUOTE]This coming from a man who does'nt even know sqat about the Achaemenids not anything about Persia that does not go along his Agenda. You should take your own advice and read book outside your afrocentrist paradigm. [QUOTE]Your approach is as juvenile as the other people who pick pictures of Greeks and romans from Lower Egypt and say (see, these pictures dating to 200bc show that the ancient Egyptians were white) it’s rather sophomoric and shows that you/them have an inability to approach a subject in an intellectual manner.[/QUOTE]Actually, unfortuantely for you its not the same. People who post images of Egyptians from the Greco Roman period(Im guessing you mean the Faiyum Portraits) fail to mention that 9 times of of ten the people depicted are Greeks and Romans or people who had their portraits made to look like a Greek or Roman. My images however are labeled and identified as Darius of Persia and a Persian soldier. You understand the difference..?? Sadly for you the truth is devastating to your case, your best option is to claim they are fake like Clyde and Mike do. Bury your head in the sand. [QUOTE]As I said before, it really is about context, without understanding the history as well as the peopling of these areas, your pictures mean nothing.[/b] The only person who does'nt understand history, from my estimation here seems to be you. [quote]The best way to put a subject to bed is with hard facts. Bring studies, and ancient accounts of people who were actually there. You can do that, and then no one can argue with you.[/QUOTE]I did just that and I have you and your feeble attempts to "Argue", you seem to live in an alternate world. [QUOTE]Well, they could, but they would make themselves seem rather silly. You posting pictures of supposed people of that ancient kingdom, with your dim witted assessment of what they mean, will not win the argument. Also, when speaking of “Persians” as you quoted in one of your subsequent post, do you mean the Fars people? That is a totally different subject all together. Again, context, context, context. You don’t know enough about this subject to have a well-informed/intelligent conversations. You should convene, research (that’s more than a day of googling half assed information to prove your point), THEN come and argue your case. [/QB][/QUOTE]After all this long winded Spam and fallacy arguments you have yet to provide evidence that refutes what I said. Thanks for the waste of time. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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