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early art depicting 12th cent The Almohad Dynasty, BERBERS /MOORS
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by typeZeiss: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by melchior7: [qb] [b]How many times do i have to mention what white means in Africa. White Africans refers to people like the Haratin, Fulani, along with Tuareg, Hassan, Trarza Moor,etc. Some Somali still calls them white men in Africa just as certain Chinese texts refer to the white faces of Somalis. [/b] Did you not read that it was the Portuguse who called them White??? Did they defer to your African definitions too. Adn as far as I'm concerned your claims are mostly bunk. Ibn Batutta was a Berber who defintely looked caucasian. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/IbnBattatuEffendi.jpg[/IMG] When he went to Africa and talked about where the land of the Blacks began and White men shouldn't eat certain African foods, that was clearly a racial reference and there is very little you can do, to spin or lie your way around it. [b]Stop spreading lies about Africans. The Almohad dynasty was founded by the Masmuda still mostly dark brown in color and the Sanhaja still mostly dark brown in color though the smith castes among this group is blacker. All of the castes of the Sanhaja were teh bulk of the Almuhade and AlMurabid'un dynasties.[/b] If you notice when ever you see pictures of these Black masmuda they often look like West Africans which they have asorbed. And though some are still light with straight or wavy hair which reveals their original Eurasian phenotype. [IMG]http://members.fortunecity.com/jrmoore1959/berberwomen.jpg[/IMG] [b]There were no other Berber people involved but these people whom the Spaniards called black - as witnessed in Primera Cronica where Nugaymath the Tuareg leader of the Almoravid seige of Valencia "star of the Targiyat (Tuareg) archers" and her followers are called black Amazons. [/b] The Almoravids brought Blacks from Senegal and Mali. "Yusef had crossed over into al-Andalus and also achieved victory at the Battle of az-Zallaqah, also known as the Battle of Sagrajas in the west. He came to al-Andalus with a force of 15,000 men, armed with javelins, daggers, most of his soldiers carried two swords, shields, cuirass of the finest leather and animal hide, as well as drummers for psychological combat. Yusef's cavalry was said to have included 6,000 shock troops from Senegal mounted on white Arabian horses." See it's all documented. Blacks were from Sub Sahara and most were not Berbers, [/qb][/QUOTE]THe Lamtuna were the modern Kel Aulamidden Tuareg of NIGER. Those were the Almoravids whether or not they brought other blacks with them or not. And whether you like it or not. You are talking about Yusef the Tuareg who is either of noble or vassal stock. Tuareg are what they are and if you want to think of them as not East African in origin that is your prerogative. Yes, Yusef - a dark brown skinned kinky haired African went with 15,000 of HIS PEOPLE and other black Africans into Andalusia. Now you can tell me which tribe Battuta was from. :p [/qb][/QUOTE]I forgot to mention that true islamic peoples other than Central Asians (TurkoPersians) never would have represented themselves in human form. it was against Islam. I doubt the many so-called depictions of Ibn Battuta were even done by people who saw him. I have seen many on line depictions none of which look alike.lol! [/qb][/QUOTE]This isn't entirely true. Shi'a can have human forms in their art. Sunnis can not. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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