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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: In later Muslim conquest periods West Africa is conquered [/QUOTE]When and where did this occur? Unless you're referring to the Fulani Jihads, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. [QUOTE]Mali was once part of three famed West African empires which controlled trans-Saharan trade in gold, salt, slaves, and other precious commodities.These Sahelian kingdoms had neither rigid geopolitical boundaries nor rigid ethnic identities.The earliest of these empires was the Ghana Empire, which was dominated by the Soninke, a Mande-speaking people. The nation expanded throughout West Africa from the 8th century until 1078, when it was conquered by the Almoravids.[/QUOTE]This has been proven as untrue in recent decades (see Conrad and Fisher, Insoll, Lange, etc.). All that is is regurgitated medieval Arab mythology. Refer to the Egyptsearch archives for previous discussions. [QUOTE] The Songhai had long been a major power in West Africa subject to the Mali Empire's rule. In the late 14th century, the Songhai gradually gained independence from the Mali Empire and expanded, ultimately subsuming the entire eastern portion of the Mali Empire. The Songhai Empire's eventual collapse was largely the result of a Moroccan invasion in 1591, under the command of Judar Pasha. [/QUOTE]This had nothing to do with the Muslim expansion first of all and second of all, Morocco pulled out after 20 years and the ruling Arma class who remained in Timbuktu only exerted their authority as far south as Djenne (the Songhai had since moved their capital to Dendi). What does this have to do with any "conquest of West Africa"? In fact, one of the Pasha's from Timbuktu was killed in an early raid by one of the Askiya's from Dendi who severed the head of the Pasha for it to be on display in Kebbi for the kinfolk in Hausaland (where many of the Askiyas were originally from). How's that for a "conquest of [b]West Africa[/b]"? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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