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[QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] [QUOTE]This had nothing to do with the Muslim expansion first of all and second of all, Morocco pulled out after 20 years and the ruling Arma class who remained in Timbuktu only exerted their authority as far south as Djenne (the Songhai had since moved their capital to Dendi). What does this have to do with any "conquest of West Africa"? In fact, one of the Pasha's from Timbuktu was killed in an early raid by one of the Askiya's from Dendi who severed the head of the Pasha for it to be on display in Kebbi for the kinfolk in Hausaland (where many of the Askiyas were originally from). How's that for a "conquest of West Africa"? [/QUOTE]This is True. Further the Moroccan Invasion was more than just an attempt to control the Gold mines as Lioness et al. try to portray. There were also Political reasons. Al Mansur was trying to unite the whole of Western African Islam to counter the encroaching Ottoman Turkish Empire. If Al-Mansur simply invaded the primitive Sudanis for gold and nothing else(A usual Euroclown tactic is to try to portray Early Non European who went into "SSA" as "Colonizers" in the same category as 19th century European powers) why did Al-Mansur send letters to Both the King of Songhai as well as Borneu asking for their support in creating a West African version of a "Caliphate"... [QUOTE]Ahmad al-Mansur had similar ambitions as his father, but he was enough of a political realistic to recognize that he lacked the strength to challenge the Ottomans directly. And yet, it was under al-Mansur that the theory of sharifian supremacy was developed to its fullest extent. [/QUOTE]Al Manusur's idea of "Supremacy" had nothing to do with color but with the fact that he claimed to be from the Bloodline of Muhammed.. [QUOTE]It was in his role as the rightful caliph over the Islamic world [b]that al-Mansur made his approach to the Islamic rulers of the kingdoms bordering the Sahara on the south[/b]. In [b]letters written to the rulers of Bornu, Kebbi, and Songhay, al-Mansur asserted his caliphal supremacy and maintained that he was only attempting to restore Islamic unity as God intended it, under the rightful leadership of the family of the Prophet.[/b] The sultan's letters to the sub-Saharan monarchs emphasized that he needed their support in order to stem the progress of the unbelieving Europeans, and to fulfill his role as leader of holy war to advance the expansion of Islam. [b]Nowhere in his letters did al-Mansur ever indicate that he viewed the sub-Saharan lands as a different region from his own territory.[/b] Instead, the clear implication of his message was that, as members of Dar al-Islam (the House of Islam), the sub-Saharan Africans should willingly submit to al-Mansur as the rightful caliph over all Muslims. [/QUOTE] http://www.historycooperative.org/proceedings/interactions/cory.html When did Europeans ever send letters to Rulers of African nations and people..People keep trying to push the European invented and European taught [b]LIE[/b] of a Sub-Sahran Africa aka a Primitive Negro land. We have the evidence that soundly debunks this myth. 1) The first people to take control of the Trade routes of the Sahrah were Sonnike and other Africans as well as Berbers who had a Mutual and rescpected relationship. 2) Even after Rivalry with Sanhadja the non Berber sudanis were still able to Ally with Berbers and Megrebis as can be seen by the amount of Taureg and others in Timbucktu and who fought for Songhai. 3) Architecture unique to Jenne and Morocco are clear Africa derived styles that have been influenced both ways, proving Sudanis and Megrebis were learning from each other. 4) The Role of the Megreb and Sudan is similar to other African Empires such as Nubia and Egypt where Mutual respect, Rivalry and Influences was essential to both empires greatness. Heck Europeans were the "Dominating/Colonizers" if one compares Ireland and England to Sudan and the Megreb. Yet Europeans and Eurocentrics rarely talk about that. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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