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[QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by osirion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]Trayvon defended himself from an attacker[/QUOTE]Not to break away from the groupthink here but how do we know who started the fight? [/qb][/QUOTE]The evidence is in the phone call between Trayvon and his girlfriend. We know that Zimmerman approached Trayvon. Trayvon was concerned that he was being followed. The phone call immediately ends when Zimmerman questions Trayvon. We also know that Zimmerman incited the situation by calling Trayvon a Goon or a Coon. Trayvon defended himself what what appeared to be a racially motivated attack. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes it could certainly be said Zimmerman went looking for "trouble". But who started the [b]physical[/b] fight, the phone call doesn't prove anything either way. Martin could've jumped Zimmerman thinking [b]he[/b] was the thief, or Zimmerman could have tried to apprehend Martin. To use the phone call as evidence for who started the fight (threw the first blow) is as lunatic as Afrolunacy, hence his name. [/qb][/QUOTE]You just qualified "fight". Fights do not have to be physical to be started. The rudeness of Zimmerman started the fight. That evidence is in the phone call. What business did Zimmerman have following or questioning Trayvon? It is this disrespect that caused the fight. However, it was just a fight from the point of view of a teenager. Teenagers get into fight all the time. If we allow Zimmerman to be free on this then it means our laws allow for the Wild West type lunacy of whoever gets to their gun first in a fight. Think of a road rage analogy. Do you get to shot a person because they punched after a road rage incident? Is that the meaning of self defense? You run into the back of someone and they get out and deck you. Do you get to shot them? I have seen a lot of street fights and been in quite a few and I cannot believe the law allows you to shot people in those situations. If that is the case then our gangs should be allowed to shot each other all the time! This is plain stupid. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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