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Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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No delusions, I hate delusions
They were Black because there was
Black Superiority (1100-1848)
The whole group was Black,
at least black or brown of skin
self-identified as Black



Johan de Witt
they might have had other classical african
facial traits we do not know
I'm not identifying them one by one:
that would be silly



Anthony van Leeuwenhoek
 

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Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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Originally posted by the lioness:
Egmond we need to take this discussion to actual photos of people.
Focusing on art all the time lets someone slip into a magical fantasy land too much.
For example Sicilian actor Giuseppe Fiorello:



^^^

Is he

a) Black

b) black

c) unblack

d) blackish

e) pink

f) "black"

g) white

h) high yellow

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Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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The elite was self-identified as Black. They revered the Moor as their ancestor.
How you call a person with black skin?
A white?



Filmmaker Olivier Hermanus of 'Skoonheit' fame was recently outed as 'coloured' by South African whites. They do not consider him white.

So the people, the European elite (1100-18480,i'm considering were brown and black of skin, identified as Blacks with images of Moors.

Off course, the all out purpose is to understand racism, and ending white supremacy.

The truly Black portraits we do not get to see.