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Egmond Codfried
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GOETHE (1741-1832)



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(2) by Franz Jander

http://libweb5.princeton.edu/visual_materials/pulc/pulc_v_4_n_1.pdf

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Cornelia Goethe, sister, by Goethe


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August von Goethe, son: (1789-1830), Gewit, by Josph Schmeller (1823)


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Whitened: Walther Wolfgang von Goethe, grandson, Walther Wolfgang von Goethe, grandson

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Johann Caspar Goethe, Father.; by F.C.Vogel

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http://shakespeare.let.uu.nl/sophie.bmp

Sophie of Sachsen-Weimar



Arthur Schopenhauer

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Marianne von Willemer

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http://www.groene.nl/1997/39/goethe-als-plezierpoot

Was Goethe Gay?

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/09/21/weekinreview/true-romance-goethe-is-outed-and-germany-yawns.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

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Is Mel Gibson Black?

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http://www.jwgoethe.org/node/63

Black portrait of August von Goethe, his son.

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Ludwig van Beethoven: described as The Black Spaniard

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Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

No delusions, I hate delusions
They were Black because there was
Black Superiority (1100-1848)
The whole group was Black,
at least black or brown of skin
self-identified as Black

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Johan de Witt
they might have had other classical african
facial traits we do not know
I'm not identifying them one by one:
that would be silly

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Anthony van Leeuwenhoek

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I stopped coming
for this forum
because
is a waste of time.
Nothing to add.
Just repeat the same thing.
boring

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After collecting portraits and images,
and much reading
I came up with a theory to explain all these images
Why they show people both as white and as black?
what are all these Moors?
why do whites HATE Blacks so much?
What did the Blacks do?
When, why, how.
Now I can explain almost everything.
where eurocentrism says: we do not know...

And I never payd much attention to the
as sholes on this forum

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Why do they hate Blacks?

http://forum.politics.be/showpost.php?p=5776233&postcount=45

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Frederick, Duke of Saxony

[PDF]
Bonnefantenmuseum Maastricht Jaarverslag 2006
www.bonnefanten.nl/pdf/jaarverslag2006.pdf

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Egmond we need to take this discussion to actual photos of people.
Focusing on art all the time lets someone slip into a magical fantasy land too much.
For example Sicilian actor Giuseppe Fiorello:

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Is he

a) Black

b) black

c) unblack

d) blackish

e) pink

f) "black"

g) white

h) high yellow


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quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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quote:
Originally posted by the lioness:
Egmond we need to take this discussion to actual photos of people.
Focusing on art all the time lets someone slip into a magical fantasy land too much.
For example Sicilian actor Giuseppe Fiorello:

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^^^

Is he

a) Black

b) black

c) unblack

d) blackish

e) pink

f) "black"

g) white

h) high yellow


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usZtNmP6S2E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCnw6aW2dDQ

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quote:
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
quote:
Originally posted by malibudusul:
Please.
No delusions.
Let's be serious.
I know that Beethoven was described as black
but the other has no description

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The elite was self-identified as Black. They revered the Moor as their ancestor.
How you call a person with black skin?
A white?

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Filmmaker Olivier Hermanus of 'Skoonheit' fame was recently outed as 'coloured' by South African whites. They do not consider him white.

So the people, the European elite (1100-18480,i'm considering were brown and black of skin, identified as Blacks with images of Moors.

Off course, the all out purpose is to understand racism, and ending white supremacy.

The truly Black portraits we do not get to see.

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