Ludwig van Beethoven: described as The Black Spaniard
malibudusul Member # 19346
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Please. No delusions. Let's be serious. I know that Beethoven was described as black but the other has no description
Egmond Codfried Member # 15683
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quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Please. No delusions. Let's be serious. I know that Beethoven was described as black but the other has no description
No delusions, I hate delusions They were Black because there was Black Superiority (1100-1848) The whole group was Black, at least black or brown of skin self-identified as Black
Johan de Witt they might have had other classical african facial traits we do not know I'm not identifying them one by one: that would be silly
Anthony van Leeuwenhoek
malibudusul Member # 19346
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I stopped coming for this forum because is a waste of time. Nothing to add. Just repeat the same thing. boring
Egmond Codfried Member # 15683
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After collecting portraits and images, and much reading I came up with a theory to explain all these images Why they show people both as white and as black? what are all these Moors? why do whites HATE Blacks so much? What did the Blacks do? When, why, how. Now I can explain almost everything. where eurocentrism says: we do not know...
And I never payd much attention to the as sholes on this forum
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Egmond we need to take this discussion to actual photos of people. Focusing on art all the time lets someone slip into a magical fantasy land too much. For example Sicilian actor Giuseppe Fiorello:
^^^
Is he
a) Black
b) black
c) unblack
d) blackish
e) pink
f) "black"
g) white
h) high yellow
Egmond Codfried Member # 15683
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Egmond Codfried Member # 15683
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quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Please. No delusions. Let's be serious. I know that Beethoven was described as black but the other has no description
Troll Patrol Member # 18264
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: Egmond we need to take this discussion to actual photos of people. Focusing on art all the time lets someone slip into a magical fantasy land too much. For example Sicilian actor Giuseppe Fiorello:
quote:Originally posted by malibudusul: Please. No delusions. Let's be serious. I know that Beethoven was described as black but the other has no description
The elite was self-identified as Black. They revered the Moor as their ancestor. How you call a person with black skin? A white?
Filmmaker Olivier Hermanus of 'Skoonheit' fame was recently outed as 'coloured' by South African whites. They do not consider him white.
So the people, the European elite (1100-18480,i'm considering were brown and black of skin, identified as Blacks with images of Moors.
Off course, the all out purpose is to understand racism, and ending white supremacy.