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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [QB] typeZeiss Off course there were Blacks of African ancestries starting families in Europe that's why I produced the coat of arms with Moor as a sir name in this thread http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=007030;p=3 And there are others with the Moor motif but not the sir name, they may yet be others that don't have either,and I gave the example of Abraham Hannibal,yes it was a very complex picture,also keep in mind the vid on Mexican Blacks posted by Jari although they liked to mix it up they also have this thing called the Limpieza De Sangre of cleansing of the blood [b]"It was the Spaniards who gave the world the notion that an aristocrat's blood is not red but blue. The Spanish nobility started taking shape around the ninth century in classic military fashion, occupying land as warriors on horseback. They were to continue the process for more than five hundred years, clawing back sections of the peninsula from its Moorish occupiers, and a nobleman demonstrated his pedigree by holding up his sword arm to display the filigree of blue-blooded veins beneath his pale skin--proof that his birth had not been contaminated by the dark-skinned enemy." Robert Lacey, Aristocrats. Little, Brown and Company, 1983, p. 6.[/b] [b] Procedure to judge Purity of Blood The earliest known case judging Limpieza de Sangre comes from the Church of Cordoba, that explained the procedure to judge the purity of blood of a candidate as follows: Kneeling, with his right hand placed over the image of a crucifix on a Bible, the candidate confirmed not being either of either Jewish or Moorish extraction. Then the candidate provided the names of the parents and grandparents, as well as places of birth. Two delegates of the council, church or other public place would then research the information to make sure it was truthful. If the investigation had to be carried out of Cordoba, a person, not necessarily a member of the council would be appointed to examine the witnesses appointed by the candidate. This researcher would receive a sum per diem according to the rank of the person, the distance traveled and the time spent. Having collected all the reports, the secretary or the notary must read them all to the council and a vote would decide whether the candidate was approved. A simple majority was sufficient, after which the candidate had to promise to obey all the laws and customs of the Church [/b] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre#Procedure_to_judge_Purity_of_Blood So it was a reaction to the domination by Africans/Arabs that the above came about to make sure that they did not find their way back into power and to get their lands back,see the vid posted over at ESR. http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=pav&action=display&thread=907 But like I explained in another thread all coat of arms have to be looked at individually for sure some are not family founders but captives or on the losing side, enemies of those families encountered in battle. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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