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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TruthAndRights: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by DHDoxies: [qb] Funny Cass where I come from a mutt is a mix of two different BREEDS/ie Races. Like my two dogs are mutts one a Dachshund X Scottie & the other GSD X Collie or GSD X Golden. This is a mutt, now it wouldn't be a mutt if you lets say bred Smooth Dachshund X Longhaired Dachshund as they are the same breed but different coat types. Same wit humans a mutt would be a mixture of two different races such as Black X White or Amerindian X White, however one like Scottish X Swede would not be a mutt because both are the same race. Let it be up to the individual White American what they wish to identity as. Truth I will check out those books you suggested. However I'm more interested in the history of my own people. BTW, just because a person is White doesn't mean that they can't be Afro-Centric & Anti-White. [/qb][/QUOTE]smh :rolleyes: so if a yte man in the 1800s is an anti-slavery advocate does that make him afrocentric and anti-yte? um yeaaaaahhh okkkk DHDoxies...you see, with all due respect, I've had the benefit of reading these books to already know what you don't- which is what I've already described in my initial comment to you above. [IMG]http://hd.housedivided.dickinson.edu/files/images/HD_giddingsJRc.jpg[/IMG] Joshua Giddings was an anti-slavery congressman who became a hero to the abolitionist movement when he resigned his seat in Congress in 1842 following a censure for his role in the Creole case, an incident concerning a slave uprising at sea, only to win back the seat through a special election. Giddings was a Whig who befriended fellow Whig Abraham Lincoln when they served together in Congress during the late 1840s. Giddings later became a leading Republican during the 1850s and served as a minor diplomat for the Lincoln Administration during the Civil War. (By Matthew Pinsker) GIDDINGS, JOSHUA REED - The Encyclopedia of Cleveland History GIDDINGS, JOSHUA REED (6 Oct. 1795-27 May 1864) represented Cleveland for about half of his 20-year tenure as one of the most renowned antislavery leaders in the U.S. Congress. Born in Tioga Point (later Athens), Pa., he was moved in infancy by his parents, Joshua and Elizabeth Pease Giddings, to Canandaigua, N.Y. In 1805 the family moved again to Ashtabula County, O., where Giddings completed his common-school education and saw service in the WAR OF 1812. In 1819 he married the former Laura Waters and 2 years later, after reading law with Elisha Whittlesey of Canfield, O., he was admitted to the bar. He opened a law office in the Ashtabula County seat of Jefferson, taking Benjamin F. Wade as a partner and serving a term (1826) in the Ohio House of Representatives. Not long after his conversion to the antislavery movement, Giddings was elected as a Whig in 1838 to succeed Whittlesey in the U.S. House of Representatives. He joined a small group of like-minded Congressmen in the Washington boarding house of Mrs. Spriggs and in 1842 was censured by the House for offering a series of resolutions in support of the slave mutineers on the coastwise slaving vessel Creole. Immediately resigning his seat, Giddings returned to the WESTERN RESERVE and was vindicated by an overwhelming re-election. Congressional redistricting brought Cleveland and Cuyahoga County into his district from 1844-53. During that period Giddings left the Whigs for the Free Soil party and sponsored national Free Soil conventions in Cleveland to formulate policy and strategy in 1849 and 1851. Following the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, he helped draft the "Appeal of the Independent Democrats" and assisted in the formation of the Republican party. Although denied renomination in 1858, Giddings secured the affirmation of the principles of the Declaration of Independence in the 1860 Republican national platform by threatening a one-man bolt of the convention. In 1858 he published The Exiles of Florida, which was followed in 1864 by History of the Rebellion: Its Authors and Causes. Appointed U.S. Consul General to Canada by President Lincoln in 1861, Giddings died in Montreal. He was survived by his wife and 5 children: Comfort, Joseph, Lura Maria, Grotius, and Laura Ann. GIDDINGS, Joshua Reed, a Representative from Ohio; born in Tioga Point (later Athens), Bradford County, Pa., October 6, 1795; moved with his parents to Canandaigua, N.Y., in 1795; received a common-school education; again moved with his parents to Ashtabula County, Ohio, in 1806; completed preparatory studies; served in the War of 1812; taught school; studied law; was admitted to the bar in February 1821 and commenced practice in Jefferson, Ohio; member of the State house of representatives in 1826; elected as a Whig to the Twenty-fifth Congress to fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Elisha Whittlesey; reelected to the Twenty-sixth and Twenty-seventh Congresses and served from December 3, 1838, until March 22, 1842, when he resigned, after a vote of censure had been passed upon him by the House in response to his motion in defense of the slave mutineers in the Creole case; subsequently elected to the Twenty-seventh Congress to fill the vacancy caused by his own resignation; reelected as a Whig to the Twenty-eighth through Thirtieth Congresses, as a Free-Soil candidate to the Thirty-first through Thirty-third Congresses, elected as an Opposition Party candidate to the Thirty-fourth Congress, and reelected as a Republican to the Thirty-fifth Congress; and served from December 5, 1842, until March 3, 1859; chairman, Committee on Claims (Twenty-seventh and Thirty-fourth Congresses); declined to be a candidate for reelection; appointed consul general to the British North American Provinces by President Lincoln on March 25, 1861, and served until his death; died in Montreal, Canada, May 27, 1864; interment in Oakdale Cemetery, Jefferson, Ohio. Anyway, 'their history' is so intertwined with your own as an American, that it is a part of your own history here (U.S.) as well.... I do overstand that most people (people PERIOD) don't too want to learn about the unpleasant Truths/Facts...keep it sugarcoated...let's just talk about the good stuff....but that helps no one in overstanding why things are the way they are now so that things can change for All in the future...you see, one thing about Truth: it's final, and it doesn't change according to what someone wishes it to be, wants it to be or needs it to be, it is what it is..it's impartial and unbiased because it remains the same: TRUTH.... "Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that work AGAINST that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief..."~~Frantz Fanon [/QB][/QUOTE]
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