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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [QB] I use to look at this argument as pseudo-Afrocentric nonsense and dismissed it as so until I had a number of good discussions with a good YouTuber in keep in touch with. I want to make it clear that I am not using this argument to say that we of the diaspora "descend from de kingz!" Its a true possibility that I don't even have Bantu ancestry, especially from these groups that claim that they come from Nile, Egypt or Nubia. Nor am I some Bantu supremacist saying Ancient Egypt was created by Bantus because it was NOT. I have not really seen any thread on here discuss this in depth(and yes I google searched topics for this on ES) and so wanted to make this thread where we discuss it in depth. Anyhow, I feel this discussion has not been touched upon a lot, hell it seems to be neglected. I've been doing a lot of research on this theory to see how "true" it is. As far as most of the Bantu homeland being Cameroon, Southeast Nigeria or Gabon there really no true consensus on this and the archaeological data to support the Cameroon region is lacking. And its said that the person who came up with the Bantu migration from Cameroon/Gabon did not "dedicate" himself to it. Going on.. I know many of us seen these maps from Ferg Somo. [IMG]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt_files/image008.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt_files/image010.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt_files/image012.jpg[/IMG] Like Ferg Somo I now believe Bantu people most likely migrated from out of the Sudanic region and not Egypt itself. For one Bantus migrating directly out of Egypt does not really work well, because the Ancient Egyptians never recorded such large scale migration from out of Egypt going south. Second I feel the Sudanic region is the best fit, because not only has the Sudanic region always been a melting pot of different Africans(and hell it still is), but such migration would explain why E-M2 is in Upper Egypt but absent in Sudan. [IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kGXHd6pkZlQ/TCypwCI857I/AAAAAAAAABo/ewmS-uTm_ws/s1600/Haplogroup+E1b1a+Migration+Map.jpg[/IMG] E-M2n to me is interesting because it is already present in Upper Egypt. people merely can not simply dismiss it as it being from the Bantu migration because one it came from the Green Sahara before there was any Bantu speakers. Can all of this explain the high STR score of the 18th dynasty in South Africa DNA tribes database for South Africa? Can it explain Ramses the third E1b1a? Who knows? To me that's a discussion for another time. But getting to a more important part I find it amazing that all these many Bantu groups and I just ONE or TWO, but MANY claim a migration from the Nile Valley or Egypt(again most likely the Sudan). These people being the Bamileke, Zulus, Luhya, Baganda, Nyarwanda, Rundi of Burindi, Kikuyu, groups of Bantu speakers from Tanzania, Mozambique, Congo, Zambia and Malawi all claim a migration from near Egypt. Also one poster(don't want to name drop him without his permission) has noted to me that Bantu language shares some similarities with Egyptian hieroglyphics. Why isn't any of this taken into account? Why are these oral traditions by these MANY Bantu groups ignored? I'm just curious thats all.. But I will admit that this theory does run into some trouble. Some people claim there were two migrations one from Cameroon and one form the Nile Valley. If that's the case then why do they all speak the same Bantu language? Like I said MANY Bantu groups make this claim, but oral traditions can be a bit slippery... Finally is there any cultural similarities between groups from the Nile Valley and Bantu people today? Whatever the case may be I feel more autosomal DNA tests on the Ancient Egyptians can open up this puzzle. But I will say IF repeat IF this theory is true it will spell a doomsday for Eurocentrics. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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