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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [QB] Good post Nodnarb. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Nodnarb: I do believe the ancestors of the Bantu, and other Niger-Congo-speaking Africans, would have intermingled with those of ancient Egyptians and Nubians in the Green Sahara. And this probably would have resulted in admixture and cultural exchanges between all these populations.[/QUOTE]I have this same agreement too. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Nodnarb: If you look at this graph Swenet posted in the other thread, there [i]is[/i] a Yoruba-like ancestry present in Egypt and the adjacent Fertile Crescent. Some of this might be attributable to the slave trade, but who's to say the Green Sahara couldn't have been a factor as well? [IMG]https://snag.gy/UZsD3Q.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]Interesting map! But according to the slave trades and historic texts, there seems to be no evidence of slaves from West Africa ever being in Egypt. No slaves from the Arab world were ever linked from the Trans-Sahara trade. [i]"Except for the Zandj (black slaves) from lower Iraq, [b]no large body of blacks historically linked to the trans-Saharan slave trade existed anywhere in the Arab world ... The high costs of slaves, because of the risks inherent in the desert crossing, which would have not permitted such a massive exodus...[/b] In this connection, it is significant that in the Arabic iconography of the period, the slave merchant was often depicted as a man with a hole in his purse. Until the Crusades the Muslim world drew its slaves from two main sources: Eastern and Central Europe (Slavs) and Turkestan. The Sudan only came third. "[/i] - [URL=https://books.google.com/books?id=tw0Q0tg0QLoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Africa+from+the+seventh+to+the+eleventh+century&hl=en&ei=PJiCTrX2MJS2tge0opDyAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false]web page[/URL] Africa from the Seventh to Eleventh Century, UNESCO, 1988 If it was due to slavery it most likely came from East Africa and not West Africa as that was where most of the Arab slave trade was taking place, but even so I doubt the lineage you talk of is even due to that. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Nodnarb: At the same time, I would take some of the oral traditions with a grain of salt since Egypt is a very prestigious civilization and many Bantu people today probably want to claim it as part of "their" heritage. [/QB][/QUOTE]True, but Ferg Somo mostly talks of a Sudanic origin and not Egypt. And I kinda doubt Bantu groups who live in rural villages would know in depth of the "greatness" of Egypt. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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