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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BlessedbyHorus: [QB] Aye... I don't know why I did not see this post. [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: I dont think and high doubt Bantu people came from the Nile Valley but they probably share common Ancestry in the Green Sahara phase... [/QUOTE]Indeed. I always say that the Green Sahara was the incubator for MOST African cultures/civilizations. I hear the ancestors of Niger-Congo speakers who some claim were a different branch of Nilo-Saharans occupied the Green Sahara along with other African groups like proto-Afro-Asiatic speakers and other Nilo-Saharans. Those ancestors of Niger-Congo people went westward and even eastward after the drying of the desert. So we can say that is where the common ancestry comes from. But what is your thoughts on E-M2 found in Egypt pre "Arab slave trade?" [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: We know that the oldest stone settlement in West Africa, Oulata/Walata dates to the B.C era and you can find Similarities in West/North African Saharan Communities and the Nile Valley as well as East Africa(Ethiopia, Somalia etc)... I discussed some of this on my past thread.. http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/thread/1074/north-south-relationship-mahgreb-sudan [b]For instance the Housing Styles among the Berbers and the West Africans in places like Mali are similar to those found in Egypt and Nubia..etc.[/b] [/QUOTE]I actually made a thread about Tichit Walata on another site. [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/2ujh91z.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i41.tinypic.com/23w6woy.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i39.tinypic.com/nnw8ev.jpg[/IMG] And VERY good point with the bolded. I have a belief that the African traditions of building in mud from West and even East Africa(like you mentioned) can be traced back to the Green Sahara! And speaking of Mali, interesting that you mention that area, because as far as I can remember Neolithic Mali was said to be apart of the Green Sahara culture and contributed to it. Second it should be noted that Mali has the oldest pottery in Africa. "A Swiss-led team of archaeologists has discovered pieces of the oldest African pottery in central Mali, dating back to at least 9,400BC" http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-archaeologist-digs-up-west-africa-s-past/5675736 Finally and most importantly... I have read that the jackal mask(and other animal head mask) and associated ritual in Ancient Egypt were found in the Sahara, but predates Ancient Egypt. It gets more interesting, because this is STILL found in Mali today. Especially by the Dogon. I don't like using Wikipedia, but... [QUOTE]It was the problem of "twin births" versus "single births," or androgyny versus single-sexed beings, that contributed to a disorder at the beginning of time. This theme became a significant basis of the Dogon religion. "The jackal was alone from birth," said Ogotemmêli, "and because of this he did more things than can be told."[19] Dogon males were primarily associated with the single-sexed male Jackal and the Sigui festival, which was associated with death on the Earth. It was held once every sixty years and celebrated the white dwarf star Sirius B. The colour white was a symbol of males. The ritual language, "Sigi so," or "language of the Sigui," which was taught to male dignitaries of the Society of the Masks, ("awa"), was considered a poor language, and only contained about a quarter of the vocabulary of "Dogo so," the Dogon word language. The "Sigi so" was used to tell the story of creation of the universe, of human life, and the advent of death on the Earth, during funeral ceremonies and the rites of the "end of mourning" ("dama").[20] It was because of the birth of the single-sexed male Jackal, who was born without a soul, that all humans eventually had to be turned into single-sexed beings. This was to prevent a being like the Jackal from ever being born on Earth again. "The Nummo foresaw that the original rule of twin births was bound to disappear, and that errors might result comparable to those of the jackal, whose birth was single. For it was because of his solitary state that the first son of God acted as he did."[19] The removal of the second sex and soul from humans is what the ritual of circumcision represents in the Dogon religion. "The dual soul is a danger; a man should be male, and a woman female. Circumcision and excision are once again the remedy."[21][/QUOTE] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people ^^All of this from the Green Sahara predates Anubis in Ancient Egypt. And also this is why paying attention and understanding cultural concepts in various of African ethnic groups can properly explain these connections more easily.  Which is what Eurocentrics ignore and throw away as "Afrocentric." When it would IN FACT make sense of Ancient Egyptian culture and not make it look "taboo" to the point of thinking Ancient Egyptians were "aliens." Anyways this is why I believe Africans outside of Egypt whether they be from the area of Nubia or the Green Sahara influenced Egypt before its formation than Ancient Egypt influencing the rest of Africa. PS: I read that thread you linked a long time ago. Good thread. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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