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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fathima: [QB] A letter from CIRCUMCISED British muslim nurse ------------------------------------------------- I am a 30 year old British born nurse. I met and married an Egyptian doctor several years ago, lived in Egypt for several years and converted to Islam and underwent female circumcision. I have no regrets. Firstly I want to dispel any myths about what it is. It is NOT infibulation - that's something which occurs only in Sub-Saharan Africa and is strictly forbidden by Islam. Where female circumcision is practiced (and that is in Muslim countries from North Africa, through the Middle East to the Far East) female circumcision can be described as either of two forms - partial circumcision, where part or all of the clitoris and inner labia are removed or full circumcision where the labia majora are also removed. The only stitches put in are to surture the cuts made during the circumcision - and definitely NOT for the purpose of narrowing the vaginal opening. Secondly, under Islam, all operations (including circumcisions!) must be carried out under medical conditions by qualified personel and using an anaesthetic where appropriate. There is no more reason for somebody in Egypt to go to a "back-street" circumciser than somebody in the West has cause to go to a "back-street" abortionist. Neither is there anything barbaric about female circumcision. The authorities in the West know perfectly well that STRICTLY SPEAKING IN MEDICAL TERMS, partial female circumcision is a more minor procedure than male circumcision. Where the cuts are made, there are fewer nerves or blood vessels cut than in male circumcision. Complications are almost non-existent. Even in the case of full circumcision complications are hardly greater than in male circumcision. This information is widely known in countries that practice female circumcision, but it is deliberately supressed by the West - whether you want to call it cultural imperialism, political correctness or just plain old bigotry against those of different beliefs or religion is up to you. Thirdly, the reasons for female circumcision are also deliberately misrepresented by the West. Female circumcision IS permitted under Islam and since the West has banned it, this is an attack on our religion. In the past female circumcision was considered optional, but many (both ordinary people and religious scholars) now think that it should be mandatory because of the West's anti-Islamic predjudice. The West also deliberately supresses the medical information relating to the benefits of female circumcision. Particularly in the case of Egypt where due to Western pressure its practice was banned for many years - but then permitted again some years ago - substantial comparative data has been gathered. [While female circumcision was banned it nevertheless continued to be practiced, although admittedly under less than perfect conditions - and this was one of the reasons why the Egyptian government lifted the ban]. Within a few years of the ban being lifted, female circumcison rates shot up from 90% in the countryside and 50% in the cities to 97% throughout the country. It could be clearly seen from the data that, in the case of full female circumcision, genito-urinary tract infections were reduced to about 10% of their level in previously uncircumcised women. Even when only partial circumcisions were performed, there was still some preventative benefit. Also, and very importantly, births amongst circumcised women were found to be easier. This is exactly the opposite of what the Western "Feminist" and "Human Rights" groups would have you believe. With external genital tissue already removed, there was far less need for episiotomies. Caesarain births were reduced. Labour is generally shorter and easier in circumcised women and healing of the birth canal and the surrounding region much easier. Fourthly, another of the great myths put about by Western anti-female circumcision groups is that it stops a woman from enjoying sex. Nothing could be further from the truth. Female circumcision does remove unwanted and unintentional arousal, there is no doubt about that, but until you have undergone female circumcision you can't be aware of just how much involuntary (and completely unneeded) arousal occurs because of previously unnoticed rubbing or pressure on your genitals. Many women in Egypt who have been initially partially circumcised have opted for full circumcision because in day-to-day life it brings about a very profound feeling of contentment, calmness and satisfaction. You are completely freed from sexual thoughts, you can have no idea how liberating that feels. It is like removing an itch that you cannot scratch. There is no feeling of loss - specifically because the very thing that caused you to desire sex all the time has been removed. Do not believe the myth that sexual arousal is all in the mind. So if arousal is removed, doesn't that mean sex is less enjoyable? It is exactly the opposite! Intercourse is far more pleasurable because the whole of the sexual act is made spiritual in nature and focuses entirely on intercourse with your husband. Do circumcised women still enjoy orgasms? OF COURSE THEY DO! With no external genital tissue in the way, penetration is deeper and more satisfying and with all sensation coming only from penetration, the resulting vaginal orgasim is deeply intense in a way that an uncircumcised woman could not understand. Fifthly, there is also a great deal of hypocrisy from the West, particularly in regard to plastic surgery. How can it be OK for Western women to have breast surgery, nose jobs or (dangerous) lipo-suction - all in the name of aesthetics, but it's not OK for a Muslim woman to change her body? Sixth, it is well known in countries as far afield as Indonesia and Malasyia to Egypt, that girls who have been circumcised do better in school and university. How can it be that the West claims to champion women's rights but tries to deny Muslim girls the right to a better education, something that is closely correlated with the practice of female circumcision in Muslim countries? And finally what of the myth that female circumcision is dying out. Well the West can stick its head in the sand if it likes. It certianly suits us. Of course, if the various "feminist", "human rights" and anti-female circumcision groups in the West were forced to confront the actual figures, then it might help expose the rest of their lies about female circumcision to their deceived populations. Even the Western estimates acknowledge that as many as 200 million Muslim women have been circumcised world wide. They know that the number is growing both as the Muslim population grows and as access to better medical facilities allows it to be carried out by a greater proportion of the Muslim population. In some countries like Egypt, Malasia and Indonesia female circumcision is almost 100%. [Just think, if any of you go on holiday to Egypt all the women you pass (including any female doctors and nurses) have undergone either partial or full female circumcision. How is it that they can be happy with their lifes and seek to continue the practice in what is obviously an open, friendly and civilised country if they weren't happy with being circumcised?] Its practice is now also spreading to other Muslims from countries like Pakistan, Northern India and Bangladesh - often it is now being found amongst Muslims who have settled in the West. I ask you this question, if a religious practice of yours was banned, do you think you would be more or less likely to continue with its practice? It is only because of Muslims natural reluctance to talk openly about sex and because of the deliberate suppression of information from Muslim countries - including interviews with medical staff and Muslim women and who have been circumcised who argue strongly for it to continue - that there has been no open debate about the nature and benefits of female circumcision. The West claims to champion freedom of speech, freedom of conscience and a rational approach to life and yet when it comes to female circumcision it couldn't be more irrational and hypocritical - instead it gives voice only to hysterical lies from rabid pro-lesbian "feminist" and anti-Islamic groups. Are we Muslims being told that some are more equal than others? Think how you would feel if the situation was reversed. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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