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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: [QB] Carifax,I am an Egyptain,and I can assure you most common Egyptains donot feel like pelyas,or egyptmed. I am skpetical that he is even Egyptain,and I have my doubts. He reminds of some white supremist who used to post on the soc.culture.egypt newsgroup name Toms hslley the white god. Masri wrote: > > Osirica, > > I'm not going to try to answer every single line in your post; I do want to > clarify a few points : > > o The second most common language in Ethiopia is NOT Coptic, and Arabic is > not the most common. > - The most common language of Ethiopia in order are : Amharic, Tigrinya, > Orominga, Guaraginga, Somali, Arabic > - The alphabet of those languages is not even close to the Coptic > alphabet. > > o I think nobody can deny that Ancient - and most current day - Egyptians > have black genes in them; I have the impression that in fact many would. Not so long ago a Lebanese woman on this ng asked a question about the origin of the Egyptians, presupposing that they had come out of some group in Asia Minor and wanting to know exactly which. No Egyptian with the possible exception of the Hab came forward to disabuse her of this notion. You will still find books and publications around which strate that Egyptian civilisation was an outgrowth of those of the Middle East that predated it, rather than a largely indigenous one. An Egyptian woman I knew went out of her way to mention that Sadat was not a "typical" Egyptian. Does anyone say the same of King Farouk? The unholy fuss made by Egyptians when the black (American) actor Gossett jr. was chosen to play him in a tv series underscores the degree to which many Egyptians desire to dissociate themselves from African origins or links. When a very Middle eastern person played the role of Sadat in a tv version of Golda Mayeer's life no such fuss was made. Sadat himself was not very proud of his distinctly African/Sudanese origin. In his autobiograhy he simply refers to himself as a dark Egyptian. By the way, how come it's so difficult to ever see a photo of general Naguib? I suppose he was another "untypical" Egyptian. So in a sense you are almost breaking new ground when you speak of Egyptians having "black genes" in them. When I also raised the question of whether the civilisation started in the delta or in Upper Egypt, there was a stony silence on this ng. When I spoke of the Afro-Asiatic group of languages having seen the light of day on the African continent and not somewhere in the Middle East as many tend to believe, our mutual friend Red Sea immediately suspected me of being an "Afrocentrist". With the "Arab identity" being of utmost importance in modern Egypt it is not surprising that the real Egyptian past in terms of cultural affiliations is downplayed. I don't speak for anyone else but I think that that is what Osirica is getting at. As far as I am concerned, and let me say right away that I am black, the truth is what matters. The facts about exactly how black or white the early Egyptian civilisation was will only come out over time. Godfrey There is some different opinions from a egyptain. The problerm is carifax,most of the egyptains posting here are either city dwellers,or elite class. You hardly get any fellahin from around aswan,luxor and Upper egypt to post in places like these. [URL=http://members.blackplanet.com/PReTti_EGyPt/]http://members.blackplanet.com/PReTti_EGyPt/[/URL] Here are egyptains totoally different than pelyas. I have a friend that is half palestinean,and half egypptain,but she is gone doiung relief work in iraq. I wsih she was here. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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