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Hey guys I was just wondering if there was porn in ancient Egypt. I know prostitution is the oldest profession and will always be around. What do you guys know about Ancient Egypt and prostitution as sell as pornography?
ausar Member # 1797
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quote:What do you guys know about Ancient Egypt and prostitution as sell as pornography?
I don't think the Kemetians had pornography the way we do in America. We definatley see some sort of pornography on the ''Turin Ppayrus'' which shows various sexual positions around the 19th dyansty.
The Kemetians also wrote various love poems that have a erotic context about them.
Seeing someone naked in Ancient Kmt would not be a rare sight,since most Kemetians went around naked. Sex to the Kemetians was not seen as a sheap thing,but as a sacred experiance.
As far as position is concerned, I am sure that it did exist. .
Memp400Kng Member # 2091
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: Seeing someone naked in Ancient Kmt would not be a rare sight,since most Kemetians went around naked.
WHA???...This is new to me...what do you mean?...naked like various other African tribes that are shown on Discovery Channel or something???...
...please enlighten me more on this...intersting...
ausar Member # 1797
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quote:WHA???...This is new to me...what do you mean?...naked like various other African tribes that are shown on Discovery Channel or something???...
That is correct. Most of the Kemetians went around naked. The children of the Kemetians also went around naked.
By the way,most of the so called African tribes shown naked on Discovery channel are from Papua New Guinea.
Kem-Au Member # 1820
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there's a book out called sacred sexuality in ancient egypt that goes into this subject. i don't know if porn would be the right word back then because they seemed to be more open with their sexuality. so i don't think it was as bad as the word porn implies is today.
but the attitude around sex seems to be pretty much the same as it is today. couples were expected to be manogamous, with the obvious exception of the royalty and possibly a few other wealthy people.
and btw Memp, the reason Kemites going around naked surprises you is because the African has been conveniently removed from their culture. you'd be surprised at how much of their culture still survives today.
Marcus Member # 3035
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We mustn't forget that murals depicting AE sexuality focussed on the life of the pharaoh - not on the average Egyptian.
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Ozzy Member # 2664
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quote:Originally posted by ausar: By the way,most of the so called African trtibes shown naked on Discovery channel are from Papua New Guinea.
How ca anyone get PAPUA NEW Guineans mixeddupp with Africans? Are you talking about the Highlanders?' as not many tribes were totaay naked, they wore penis sheaths.
Ozzy
Keino
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quote:Originally posted by Ozzy: How ca anyone get PAPUA NEW Guineans mixeddupp with Africans? Are you talking about the Highlanders?' as not many tribes were totaay naked, they wore penis sheaths.
Ozzy
I have seen the sex acts depicted but I'm not sure their intentions were for sexual gratification. I have seen depictions of penises and men having sex with animals. If anyone comes across any sources that talks AE pornography as well as sexuality please feel free to post it. I am just curious to know how they viewed the sexual relationship between men-and-women as well as men-and-men as well as pornography. Were they similar to the Greeks?
Artemi Member # 3176
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The Turin Papyrus:
ausar Member # 1797
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Becareful with the Turin papyrus because some believe it came from the Hykos not Egyptians. The Turin papyrus dates to the 19th dyansty.
Keino
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Interesting! I have never seen egyptian art that looks like that. So Ausar are you saying that this is not egyptian and that its Hykos?
ausar Member # 1797
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Most likley the Turin erotic papyrus is either Ramesesside or Hykos. Many papyri was copied and compiled during the Hykos era,and some stories like ''Khufu and the Magicians'' have Hykos origins.
neo*geo Member # 3466
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The male in the papyrus isn't depicted in the typical way. Egyptians were rarely depicted with any facial hair or baldness. Only Asiatics and Libyans are depicted with facial hair in ancient Egyptian art. It could be a fake or it ould have been created by some foriegn dynasty like the Hyksos or a Libyan dynasty. As for it being dated to the 19th dynasty, the Ramessides came from Avaris and may have had Hyksos ancestors.
Keino
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quote:Originally posted by neo*geo: The male in the papyrus isn't depicted in the typical way. Egyptians were rarely depicted with any facial hair or baldness. Only Asiatics and Libyans are depicted with facial hair in ancient Egyptian art. It could be a fake or it ould have been created by some foriegn dynasty like the Hyksos or a Libyan dynasty. As for it being dated to the 19th dynasty, the Ramessides came from Avaris and may have had Hyksos ancestors.
I was thinking the same too b/c I never saw any depiction of AE in that form as well as on that type of material. Its probably from a foreign dynasty.
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