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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Roy_2k5: [b]Yemenis Arabs and even Saudi Arabs are mainly dark/black skinned, with Dravidian-like features. However, the elite Arabs or those from Hijaz are white. This means that the term Moor could be applied to the Arabs too. [/b][/QUOTE] The Arabs including Yeminis are more red (brown and lighter) than black (brown and darker). Unless youre using Moor as a code word for dark/black skinned the only Yemini Moors are the ones heavily or actually predominently mixed with Zenaga Imazighen in Mauritania. At least thats my personal experience and opinion. Moor has a precise definition Mauretanian/Mauritanian. To call anyone else Moors is to impose an identity label on them that they themselves do not recognize or accept. It doesnt help historical investigation to allow everyone from Iberia to Senegal to Egypt to Mozambique to the Arabian peninsula to the Fillipines to be Moors. They all have their separate actual identities and accomplishments. [QUOTE]Originally posted by ausar: [b] This is true that the lower classes in Yemen have an Austric[Dravidian,veddoid element]. Many people from Sadui Arabi come from historic hajjis pilgrims,slaves, and soliders. During the time of the phophet Mohammed[pbuh] many Habesha[Ethiopians] came to Mecca and also controlled parts of Yemen for awhile. [/b] [/QUOTE] I think Muhammed was born in the Year of the Elephant which marked the end of Ethiopian rule over Arabia as a consequence of the excesses of Dhu Nawas. But this was last not the first time there was shared government across the Bab el Mandeb. Long in the past the Horn and the Yemen was a Two Shore Empire just like the later Morocco and al Andalus. This is why both Yemen and Ethiopia claim Bilqis aka Makeda as an ancient queen of theirs. So we have Saba or Sheba after Kushitic and protoSemitic speakers found their way to the Arabian peninsula. The black connection is African more so than Austric especially when culture and history are consulted not to discount the fact that Ethiopis, Yemenis, and Deccan Indians have intermarried throughout time. Theres the prominence of the cDe allele of the Rh gene, called the African chromosome, in Yemenis from Habban in particular. The Fy*O allele is another African marker and its occurence is even higher than cDe in Yeminis and Habbanis. Nor are the African elements further north of the Yemen due to migrants from the late Islamic era with its hajjis and slaves. Arab origin mythos name two distinct ancestors, Qahtaan (pure southerners) and Adnan (mixed northerners), and the three way division of their society into: <OL TYPE=1> [*]al-'Arab ul-'Aribah (South Arabian "Kushites" of the oldest purest civilization and blood lines) [*]al-'Arab ul-Muta'aribah (mixed in upon the southerners) [*] al-'Arab ul-Musta'ribah (foreign-origin arabized settlers)</OL> See al Jahiz for more on the preIslamic Arabian blacks and how the reds attitude toward them changed after Islam, introduced by the Muta'aribah. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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