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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Masreyya: [b] No one said it was any sort of "rule". Neither is it in Egypt but there's truth to it to an extent, and the fact that there may be a scientific explanation behind it does lend support to that view. However, what's more important to me is the fact that Egyptians simply have that impression regardless of whether or not it's accurate. If the colors were symbolic of an overall perception of variation between men and women, which Egyptians still have, then it provides a clue.[/b][/QUOTE]Masareyya you are over generalizing and lumping together things making dumplings.... We are not at dinner. :) What I am saying is that you should not generalize and misrepresent the facts by taking fragments of funerary art from ancient Egypt to make a point. You have to look at the images in the context of the ENTIRE tomb or temple and to a larger degree ALL of the ancient monuments if you are going to try and make a good judgements based on facts. In my opinion, the color yellow for females was symbolic in Egyptian art, period. This is consistent with the stylistic cannon of Egyptian art from the beginning of Egyptian dynasties. However, even with this, there are plenty of examples where women are portrayed in the same colors as men and or other ligther shades, including light tan or pink. Therefore, with this in mind, there is no question that there were some lighter skinned people in Egypt. The point I am making is that many try and take images out of context in order to make a larger point as to what proportion of the population was more lighter versus more darker or whatever. I would say that any theory that ignores the fact that the MAJORITY of the Egyptian images were of medium to dark brown skinned people is biased, because of the evidence, not because I want to see it one way or the other. [QUOTE][b]First, I don't know how you can make out anyone's features to such detail in the black-and-white photos. The close-ups I have seen taken in the last century show the same people that continue to live the same lifestyle along the banks of the Nile today, from the Delta to Nubia with little to no change.[/b][/QUOTE]I don't disagree about the pictures being the same people that you see in Egypt today. However, I am making a point that in some of the older photos, you do see more images of Egyptians with tight curly hair than seen now. I am not saying that there are no Egyptians with tight curly hair, however, I am against those who say that the hair styles of the ancient Egyptians was symbolic or only wigs and not really tight and curly, as seen in some periods were men wore afros (not wigs) or even the crowns that had depictions of curls. There is no doubt that you have many Egyptians with tight curly hair today. The other point is that you dont often see the Egyptian sidelock anymore, whereas I have seen older pictures of Egyptians or other Africans with the hairstyle. This I look at as a vestige of an ancient tradition that is being lost. [QUOTE][b]And please disabuse yourself of this offensive "Arab" vs. "African" Egyptian tripe that gets thrown around this place! It's been pointed out that there's a gradient north-to-south. If you are interested in seeing Egyptians that fit a specific African phenotype, I'm sure you'll find them. The identity question is an entirely separate issue since many of the people that you would consider "African-looking" consider themselves "Arab", even though this says nothing about their background.[/b][/QUOTE]I agree. My only contention, which is not really with you, is that Egyptology has officially been trying to deny the presence of certain features in the Egyptian population. This has bee used to reinforce a notion of Egyptians as being exclusively one complexion, having one hair type and so on, in which ancient Egyptians almost always come out looking like the Tut reconstruction and not like the other phenotypes present in Egypt to this day. [QUOTE][b]Here is yet another example of "explaining away". We would then have to dismiss essentially all ancient Egyptian portrayals of women from the OK to the MK and a sizeable portion of NK art as "Syrio-Palestinian", since all of them look identical to those women. [/b][/QUOTE]This is the problem with taking fragments of images from a tomb or temple and trying to extrapolate and make a point. Take the FULL scene or tomb into context, along with other tombs and temples from the same period into consideration before making judgement or broad generalizations. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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