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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nur23_you55ouf: [QB] [QUOTE]Lol. What nonsense. The term Arab World is a politically charged, imperialistic *claim*, by Arabs over the lands and peoples they conquered. This ideology is known formally as Arabisation. Arab identity and language, in much of the Arab world, is contrived upon and enforced by violence. It is not simply a post-facto reference to 'places where people speak Arabic'.[/QUOTE]I was reffering to the term "arab". [QUOTE]This is specious analogy. A specious analogy occurs when two things are compared which appear to be superficially similar to make a point, in this case, about how they are treated differently. When in fact the two things are very much unlike one another.[/QUOTE]I see. [QUOTE]'Yellow' people does not exist anywhere as and ethnonym[/QUOTE]It exists as a reference to people of east asian descent(or rather oriental peoples). "Black" loosely refers to people of african descent, yellow does the exact same, despite its rarity in the vocab of people. In fact, i didn't use "black" to denote ethnicity, but rather pigmentation. legitimacy was of my least concern, akin to how people will use words that don't exists in the dictionary(that doesn't necessarily mean that its meaning is unknown). [QUOTE] whereas Black is the most frquent color ethnonym used to describe peoples...in many languages, and in many cultures quite independant from one another.[/QUOTE]If black can be used as an ethnonym, what exempts yellow from that potential(this particular question has nothing to do with the subject matter btw)? [QUOTE]Meanwhile color in general carries no distinction as a politically constructed identity.[/QUOTE]Exactly why "black africa" is an absurd term. [QUOTE], most Asians don't discribe themselves as "East" Asians, but rather just as "Asians".[/QUOTE]Yup, the same can also be said for black africans, who call themselves "african" rather than black african or sub saharan african. [QUOTE]And peoples of SouthWest Asia, dont' describe themselves as Asians at all, but rather Arabs, Indians, Afghans, Jews. Meanwhile far West Asians actually call themsevles *Europeans* [Europe is Westernmost Asia], or whites, but almost never West Asians.[/QUOTE]Indeed, which is why i remain firm on my ultimate point that a name should only denote geographic location rather than identity. There are numerous ethnic groups within "black africa" that don't need such an oversimplification of a word. [QUOTE]So I can't imagine having *less* of a point than you appear to.[/QUOTE]Ignoring the superficial details regarding yellow as a nonexistant term, my point should be well understood...Regions/areas of a continent that imply a certain identity have no place, unless you plan on ignoring its aloof nature as a designation of location. My analogy was meant to [i]reinforce[/i] my "point", therefore its independent of an anlogy. With that said, i fail to see why an analogy of mistakes irrelevant to the subject matter, renders it incoherent. Although i was vaguely aware of your points before i typed the analogy, the least of my concern was to aknowledge its superficial flaws and discard the whole analogy altogether(as long as the analogy's intent is understood. <--- The context at which the analogy derives from should alone gurantee the point i was attempting to make. The details, of course don't change the fact that black africa directly implies the people of origin inhabiting the area as dark skinned, wherelese east asia perfectly fulfills its intent with no inherent flaw...There's a reason why "yellow asia" doesn't exist. That same reason can be applied to why "black africa" shouldn't. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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